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  • jsou4646
    MVP
    • Oct 2007
    • 1524

    #1

    Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

    Why do catches miss pitches that are in the strike zone. What I mean by this is very catchable pitches that bounce of their mask or chest. It's odd and looks horrible. It's been I. Other versions of the show and never been fixed.
  • NEOPARADIGM
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 2788

    #2
    Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

    It's called a passed ball, and it's the catcher not catching the ball (as compared to a wild pitch).

    I'd agree sometimes the animation (or lack thereof) can be pretty wonky but it's a "wonk" play, ultimately, when you think about it, it matches. Plus I've seen good passed-ball animations too. It's like any other play in that regard.

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    • WaitTilNextYear
      Go Cubs Go
      • Mar 2013
      • 16830

      #3
      Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

      Pitcher and catcher can get "crossed up" at times where the C calls for a pitch somewhere and the P misses badly somewhere else. From time to time, this results in a passed ball/wild pitch at the scorekeeper's discretion. It actually adds to the realism imo.
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      • jsou4646
        MVP
        • Oct 2007
        • 1524

        #4
        Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

        I've played and watched a ton of baseball, the odds of a catcher getting hit in the face mask by a fastball is extremely rare if it happens at all. I've seen too many animations were a fastball hits the catcher flush in the head or chest. It just takes away the realism immersion IMO.

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        • bigwill33
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 2281

          #5
          Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

          I agree. Catcher calls for a fastball, sets up and spots his glove for it. You nail the spot perfectly and he misses it and it blasts him in the dome. Not likely to happen, especially as much as it does in this game.

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          • hawley088
            Rookie
            • Apr 2010
            • 430

            #6
            Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

            I've only seen this in the 8th or 9th inning when I am up, happens almost every time. Not once has it happened when I am hitting though

            And people say there isn't any comeback logic lol

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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #7
              Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

              Far be it from me to ascertain what you guys are seeing in your games, but I've seen this happen maybe 2 or 3 times in 25 ST games, so I'm not sure if it's a big issue for most people or not.

              I understand it could be frustrating if this were to happen at the wrong time (runner on 3rd for example) and the recency bias may also be at play, but passed balls happen in a variety of different ways. Some pitchers and pitch types are just hard to catch even when located properly. Heck some pitchers are so tough to catch, they have their own personal backstop. I stand by my statement that it actually is realistic for catchers to flat drop pitches from time to time.
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              • bfindeisen
                Pro
                • Mar 2008
                • 793

                #8
                Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                Far be it from me to ascertain what you guys are seeing in your games, but I've seen this happen maybe 2 or 3 times in 25 ST games, so I'm not sure if it's a big issue for most people or not.

                I understand it could be frustrating if this were to happen at the wrong time (runner on 3rd for example) and the recency bias may also be at play, but passed balls happen in a variety of different ways. Some pitchers and pitch types are just hard to catch even when located properly. Heck some pitchers are so tough to catch, they have their own personal backstop. I stand by my statement that it actually is realistic for catchers to flat drop pitches from time to time.

                It's funny, I didn't really remember it happening a ton before reading this thread, although I hadn't played many games at all (maybe 3-4). Then, right after reading this, I played about 4 games this weekend and in the first 3 this happened an average of 3 times a game (me and CPU) on fastballs that bounced right off the catcher's face. Then it didn't happen at all in the fourth game. I hope this doesn't become a serious problem.

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                • DaveSBX
                  Rookie
                  • May 2014
                  • 57

                  #9
                  Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                  This is a huge problem in MLB 14: The Show and I find it funny people defend it with "It's a part of baseball."

                  This isn't a lack of communication or a pitcher putting the ball in the wrong place, it's a problem with the game. The ball sometimes just goes completely THROUGH the catcher to the backstop when it's directly into his chest. I've seen this happen multiple times resulting in bases being taken and runs being scored.

                  People need to stop making excuses for this franchise and start being honest about it. It has a ****ton of problems.

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                  • WaitTilNextYear
                    Go Cubs Go
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16830

                    #10
                    Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                    Originally posted by bfindeisen
                    It's funny, I didn't really remember it happening a ton before reading this thread, although I hadn't played many games at all (maybe 3-4). Then, right after reading this, I played about 4 games this weekend and in the first 3 this happened an average of 3 times a game (me and CPU) on fastballs that bounced right off the catcher's face. Then it didn't happen at all in the fourth game. I hope this doesn't become a serious problem.
                    Originally posted by DaveSBX
                    This is a huge problem in MLB 14: The Show and I find it funny people defend it with "It's a part of baseball."

                    This isn't a lack of communication or a pitcher putting the ball in the wrong place, it's a problem with the game. The ball sometimes just goes completely THROUGH the catcher to the backstop when it's directly into his chest. I've seen this happen multiple times resulting in bases being taken and runs being scored.

                    People need to stop making excuses for this franchise and start being honest about it. It has a ****ton of problems.
                    Not sure we are playing the same game. Have never seen anything go "through" the catcher and certainly haven't seen 3+ wonky passed balls per game.
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                    • saturn2187
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 276

                      #11
                      Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                      Originally posted by DaveSBX
                      This is a huge problem in MLB 14: The Show and I find it funny people defend it with "It's a part of baseball."

                      This isn't a lack of communication or a pitcher putting the ball in the wrong place, it's a problem with the game. The ball sometimes just goes completely THROUGH the catcher to the backstop when it's directly into his chest. I've seen this happen multiple times resulting in bases being taken and runs being scored.

                      People need to stop making excuses for this franchise and start being honest about it. It has a ****ton of problems.
                      yeah i've played 40 -50 games and i have not seen this once.

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                      • bigwill33
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2281

                        #12
                        Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                        Those of us that have seen this can attest, it is not implemented by design. It is a flaw in the game. Passed balls and wild pitches are one thing, this is neither of those.

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                        • allstardad
                          Banned
                          • May 2014
                          • 237

                          #13
                          Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                          I have yet to see a ball just bounce off the catcher, outside of ones that are difficult to catch (ie: ball in dirt, bouncing ball, extremely outside or inside etc...)

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #14
                            Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                            I've seen it, not to the frequency some have but I've seen it. It only happened once to me with runners on base though so it hasn't bitten me yet.

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                            • WaitTilNextYear
                              Go Cubs Go
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 16830

                              #15
                              Re: Why are some pitches missed by the catcher. Pitches that are strikes

                              Any chance you guys think the camera angle might play a role? If some are seeing this and some aren't, it stands to reason that our settings might be different or we might be observing it happen from a different perspective. I use Wide cam for hitting and a custom based off WAS Broadcast for pitching.
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