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  • CJ10
    Banned
    • Jan 2013
    • 340

    #1

    Same old simulation problems in franchise

    I just completed the 2016 draft in my braves franchise (All-Star using TNK sliders). I simulate most of the games and I am still seeing the inflated ERA's for pitchers when simming. The most glaring example I have found is kimbrel. He has pitched 11 and 1/3 innings on the season (why has he only pitched 11 n 1/3 into the first week of june). His line is a 7.15 ERA with 9 ER and 9 Ks, but he still has 10 saves.

    Now I know someone will come in here and say "he can still have 10 saves and that huge ERA" and that person would be correct, but as baseball fans know, that is highly highly unlikely for a situation like that to happen. Anyways, when will the simmed stats ever more reflect real life? Simmed scores have always been out of hand.
  • HozAndMoose
    MVP
    • Mar 2013
    • 3614

    #2
    Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

    Originally posted by CJ10
    I just completed the 2016 draft in my braves franchise (All-Star using TNK sliders). I simulate most of the games and I am still seeing the inflated ERA's for pitchers when simming. The most glaring example I have found is kimbrel. He has pitched 11 and 1/3 innings on the season (why has he only pitched 11 n 1/3 into the first week of june). His line is a 7.15 ERA with 9 ER and 9 Ks, but he still has 10 saves.

    Now I know someone will come in here and say "he can still have 10 saves and that huge ERA" and that person would be correct, but as baseball fans know, that is highly highly unlikely for a situation like that to happen. Anyways, when will the simmed stats ever more reflect real life? Simmed scores have always been out of hand.
    You cant call it an issue with one off month. I havent noticed any thing that bad in 5-6 seasons played.

    Go look at the games played and see how many runs he gave up in his blown save. And how many is every other game.

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #3
      Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

      Originally posted by HozAndMoose
      You cant call it an issue with one off month. I havent noticed any thing that bad in 5-6 seasons played.

      Go look at the games played and see how many runs he gave up in his blown save. And how many is every other game.
      So you are counting on him giving up a grand slam? There is a minor problem with ERA for closers. I am in year 2 of my O's franchise. Just finished the All Star game and the closer for Detroit leads the AL in saves (39 I think) with a ERA over 4. I think it may be close to or over 5 but I know for sure it is over 4. Not game breaking but it is an issue. I haven't really checked other teams so if he is the only one then it is not a big deal.

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      • CJ10
        Banned
        • Jan 2013
        • 340

        #4
        Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

        Originally posted by HozAndMoose
        You cant call it an issue with one off month. I havent noticed any thing that bad in 5-6 seasons played.

        Go look at the games played and see how many runs he gave up in his blown save. And how many is every other game.
        Im not sure where you are getting one off month? He's pitched 11 innings at the first week of June. Thats all or April, May and the first part of June.
        Last edited by CJ10; 06-15-2014, 09:19 AM.

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        • rjackson
          MVP
          • Apr 2005
          • 1661

          #5
          Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

          Small sample size, only 11 innings. Look at the team numbers on the bottoms of the team stats pages. What are those looking like?

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          • CJ10
            Banned
            • Jan 2013
            • 340

            #6
            Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

            Originally posted by rjackson
            Small sample size, only 11 innings. Look at the team numbers on the bottoms of the team stats pages. What are those looking like?
            I think you are missing the point. Its not so much the ERA even though its not realistic, its the only having 11 n 1/3 innings pitched after the first 2 months and one week of the season.

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            • HozAndMoose
              MVP
              • Mar 2013
              • 3614

              #7
              Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

              Originally posted by CJ10
              I think you are missing the point. Its not so much the ERA even though its not realistic, its the only having 11 n 1/3 innings pitched after the first 2 months and one week of the season.
              Are you playing as the Braves? If not how do you know he hasnt been hurt? Even if you are, Kimbrel is always in the top 3 closer in the 5+ seasons ive played. You cant make a judgment off of one odd stat.

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              • CJ10
                Banned
                • Jan 2013
                • 340

                #8
                Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                Are you playing as the Braves? If not how do you know he hasnt been hurt? Even if you are, Kimbrel is always in the top 3 closer in the 5+ seasons ive played. You cant make a judgment off of one odd stat.
                Yes I play as the braves, he hasnt been hurt. He is just the example that I am using. There are a ton of my pitchers with 4 and 5+ ERA that are 90 plus rated guys. I get realistic outcomes when I actually play with them, but when the games are simmed they are getting blow up.

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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #9
                  Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                  Originally posted by CJ10
                  Yes I play as the braves, he hasnt been hurt. He is just the example that I am using. There are a ton of my pitchers with 4 and 5+ ERA that are 90 plus rated guys. I get realistic outcomes when I actually play with them, but when the games are simmed they are getting blow up.
                  Have you adjusted sliders for simming games?

                  I sim a lot, but I haven't noticed anything too out of the ordinary league-wide. There are random outliers, but those are to be expected
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                  • Tweeg
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1414

                    #10
                    Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                    In real life Sergio Romo has an ERA over 5, and Joe Nathan is well over 6. With the limited innings pitched by relievers, their stats from year to year can vary greatly.
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                    • fistofrage
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13682

                      #11
                      Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                      1 bad inning by a closer and the ERA is through the roof. Give up a Grand Slam and you'll have to be perfect in your next 8 outings to have an ERA of 4.
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                      • CJ10
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 340

                        #12
                        Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                        Originally posted by Tweeg
                        In real life Sergio Romo has an ERA over 5, and Joe Nathan is well over 6. With the limited innings pitched by relievers, their stats from year to year can vary greatly.
                        This is Kimbrel we are talking about, not a has been Nathan or a no better than avg romo lol.

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                        • CJ10
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                          Originally posted by fistofrage
                          1 bad inning by a closer and the ERA is through the roof. Give up a Grand Slam and you'll have to be perfect in your next 8 outings to have an ERA of 4.
                          This isnt about the ERA though, its about the lack of innings pitched 1/3 of the way into the season.

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                          • CJ10
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 340

                            #14
                            Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                            Originally posted by Jr.
                            Have you adjusted sliders for simming games?

                            I sim a lot, but I haven't noticed anything too out of the ordinary league-wide. There are random outliers, but those are to be expected
                            Are there separate sliders you can set for simming? I dont have the time or the patience to change them back and forth when I wanna sim against when I wanna play lol!

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                            • Jr.
                              Playgirl Coverboy
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19171

                              #15
                              Re: Same old simulation problems in franchise

                              Originally posted by CJ10
                              Are there separate sliders you can set for simming? I dont have the time or the patience to change them back and forth when I wanna sim against when I wanna play lol!
                              I have 2 sets of sliders and just load one set for simming and one for when I play.

                              I would think adjusting the CPU sliders would affect sims maybe. I'm not sure on that though.

                              If you're worried about IP from your Closer, you need closer scores. They'll only put a closer in, in a sim, if it's a save situation.
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