Enough With The Suicide Squeezes

[Jr.]

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Whether that's true or not, I still think the bunting ratings for these players should be zeroed out to keep the AI from exploiting the squeeze play and sac bunting in the wrong situations. I've also seen a ridiculous number of drag bunt attempts. Not every speedy baserunner is an expert at laying down perfect bunts.

This is where player traits would come into play. A simple Drag Bunt trait with "Often/Sometimes/Rare" would work wonders to help with these types of issues.

I really hope the development team implements player traits and personalities in the near future. I think it would help trade logic, too, but that's another topic.

[KBLover]

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Yeah cause Dominic Brown is really swinging the bat well in real life right now (probably isn't hitting in MLB the Show either). Nick Markakis has a .356 OBP (career .360) in real life right now. He obviously is an on base guy. 7 Homer runs halfway through the season doesn't really make you a power hitter. I'd say the squeeze situation with Markakis fits the bill.

I agree he's not a power hitter - but a guy with a very solid OBP, I don't know if having him try a squeeze is a good idea unless he's really good at it (maybe he is, I can't say I know or even know how to find out).

He's listed as having just 4 SH in his career, all in the first two years of his career. I know that doesn't count squeezes, but it seems like bunting with Markakis isn't something his managers asked of him, probably because of that OBP (and earlier in his career, he was a good bet for a double as well).

[KBLover]

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I have literally not seen a single squeeze attempt in about 150ish games played.

Kinda wish I had your game!

I wonder why there's such a wild difference between not at all and a lot that we're seeing?

[Jr.]

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I agree he's not a power hitter - but a guy with a very solid OBP, I don't know if having him try a squeeze is a good idea unless he's really good at it (maybe he is, I can't say I know or even know how to find out).

He's listed as having just 4 SH in his career, all in the first two years of his career. I know that doesn't count squeezes, but it seems like bunting with Markakis isn't something his managers asked of him, probably because of that OBP (and earlier in his career, he was a good bet for a double as well).

He's also played his entire career in the AL. AL teams just very rarely bunt at all, much less squeeze. I feel bad for those experiencing a high number of bunts/squeezes, and lucky that I'm not having any issue in mine.

[Brandwin]

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I haven't seen a squeeze by the cpu yet. I've played at least 50 games. No issues with bunting either.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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I haven't seen many squeezes, and when I have, it's been late in game or extra innings even, and always a very close or tied game.

[OhioCub]

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He's also played his entire career in the AL. AL teams just very rarely bunt at all, much less squeeze. I feel bad for those experiencing a high number of bunts/squeezes, and lucky that I'm not having any issue in mine.

I haven't had that many myself but obviously some people are having an issue (and I've seen more than a truly realistic amount). I read the other day that bunts are at an all time low in today's game (the real thing, not the Show). Sabermetrics have all but killed the sac bunt for everyone except for pitchers, suicide squeezes are high risk and have the potential of derailing a possible big inning and players in general just don't like to drag bunt anymore because according to the odds of it working they feel they're giving away an out most of the time.

[moth to a flame]

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I like to play with auto baserunning, and one time the CPU decided to make me do a suicide squeeze. The problem was that a) I had the bases loaded with no outs! b)with Torii Hunter on 3rd and c) I didn't know about it. I took the pitch and all of a sudden I see Torii's stupid self get tagged out at home by the catcher waiting for him.

Sometimes I just don't understand the logic of the game when it comes to bunting. I have given up way too many bunts to the CPU for hits and these squeeze opportunities just seem ill-timed and far too frequent.

[Mrmagoo]

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I like to play with auto baserunning, and one time the CPU decided to make me do a suicide squeeze. The problem was that a) I had the bases loaded with no outs! b)with Torii Hunter on 3rd and c) I didn't know about it. I took the pitch and all of a sudden I see Torii's stupid self get tagged out at home by the catcher waiting for him.

Sometimes I just don't understand the logic of the game when it comes to bunting. I have given up way too many bunts to the CPU for hits and these squeeze opportunities just seem ill-timed and far too frequent.

This is ********, they should be no way that should happen, auto baserunning or not. Even with auto baserunning it should be set up so the user has to push a button or something to initiate the squeeze.

[The Chef]

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I have literally not seen a single squeeze attempt in about 150ish games played.

Same here, 162+ games played and not once have I seen the CPU attempt a suicide squeeze.

[Mrmagoo]

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You've played out 162 complete games already? With QC or not?

[Padgoi]

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The CPU has only attempted it once against me and get this, it was with two outs and the bases loaded. The batter missed the bunt and I tagged the runner out at home. I was thinking, "what the heck?"

Had this happen to me the other day. Was thinking the exact same thing. And they were down by 1 run in the 9th! AI needs some work there.

[ralphieboy11]

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Really surprised by those that have not seen this. It has happened a lot in previous versions as well. I've seen Evan Gattis try it. I remember seeing Chipper Jones do it long ago. You used to get the animation where the batter would miss the bunt and then the runner on third would bowl over the catcher. Not sure if that's still in there or not.

Definitely needs to be toned down.

[HozAndMoose]

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Im around 100 games played and have only seen it once.

[ralphieboy11]

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I will say this. It's only going to happen when the cpu team is tied or down by one run late in a game. So if someone is playing on easy settings or something where this situation never occurs, you probably won't see it.

From my experience the cpu has always tried this too often when the above scenario applies.