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  • Paradingwolves
    Banned
    • May 2014
    • 261

    #1

    Terrible Drafting logic

    through 2 amateur drafts almost all the top picks by CPU teams were players with potential of 99 but aren't MLB ready for 8+years and are already 20+ years old. For example the Astros first overall pick was a 22 year old who won't be MLB ready until he's 32.

    Why are rookies like this even created, who has a 99 potential that they won't reach for a decade? Anyone notice this as well? is there any work around for it other than going in and editing players after they were drafted to boost their current overall to make them MLB ready sooner?
  • NDAlum
    ND
    • Jun 2010
    • 11453

    #2
    Re: Terrible Drafting logic

    30-team control would help this. I'm actually thinking of drafting for all teams in the next draft. They do their own scouting so I'll just browse their scouting list and try to take the best guy for them.

    Other than that your solution is probably the best.

    I think the problem is the players carrying over from one draft to the next. There's a 2B who was in 2 or 3 of my draft pools but never was draftable in the draft. He was 24 years old after skipping the drafts.

    Not only do they skip the drafts but their attributes stay the same.

    This needs to be addressed.
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    • Paradingwolves
      Banned
      • May 2014
      • 261

      #3
      Re: Terrible Drafting logic

      Originally posted by NDAlum
      30-team control would help this. I'm actually thinking of drafting for all teams in the next draft. They do their own scouting so I'll just browse their scouting list and try to take the best guy for them.

      Other than that your solution is probably the best.

      I think the problem is the players carrying over from one draft to the next. There's a 2B who was in 2 or 3 of my draft pools but never was draftable in the draft. He was 24 years old after skipping the drafts.

      Not only do they skip the drafts but their attributes stay the same.

      This needs to be addressed.
      Maybe it's just my crop of rookies, but if I use your first solution I'll have maybe 10 real legit first rounders with good potential and a reasonable MLBETA.

      I think they could write logic into this that if a player has A potential he is MLB ready in no more than 5 years from his draft year. It just all seems completely random. I have 70 potential guys who are MLB ready next year, because those 5th round picks generally start the next year in the bigs in real life...

      This is an amazing game but this is probably the worst draft engine of all sports sims I've played.

      oh well back to manually editing last years first rounders, all but 2 have an under 50 current overall

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      • Mrmagoo
        Pro
        • Apr 2014
        • 669

        #4
        Re: Terrible Drafting logic

        Yea.... Then think about the game changer..? Franchise carry overs... See its things like this that will make the ability to carry franchises over to the next year's game about useless, or am I wrong with that thinking??.

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        • nick_sr
          MVP
          • Oct 2012
          • 1934

          #5
          Re: Terrible Drafting logic

          Originally posted by NDAlum
          30-team control would help this. I'm actually thinking of drafting for all teams in the next draft. They do their own scouting so I'll just browse their scouting list and try to take the best guy for them.

          Other than that your solution is probably the best.

          I think the problem is the players carrying over from one draft to the next. There's a 2B who was in 2 or 3 of my draft pools but never was draftable in the draft. He was 24 years old after skipping the drafts.

          Not only do they skip the drafts but their attributes stay the same.

          This needs to be addressed.
          a simple solution to this is to edit those rookies and advanced their eta as I do . as a guy who likes to build my organization through the draft, I am extremely disappointed in this aspect of the game!
          @KingTate84 on twitter.

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          • nick_sr
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1934

            #6
            Re: Terrible Drafting logic

            weren't we told last year that the braves will mostly draft pitchers in the draft? played/simmed about 10 seasons since '13 and have yet to witness that.
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            • nick_sr
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1934

              #7
              Re: Terrible Drafting logic

              Originally posted by Mrmagoo
              Yea.... Then think about the game changer..? Franchise carry overs... See its things like this that will make the ability to carry franchises over to the next year's game about useless, or am I wrong with that thinking??.
              i'm not trusting that feature until I know it is a sure thing. beyond excited for it but i need to make sure it will work before i commit to it.
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              • JPCaveman13
                Rookie
                • Nov 2010
                • 280

                #8
                Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                Originally posted by Paradingwolves
                through 2 amateur drafts almost all the top picks by CPU teams were players with potential of 99 but aren't MLB ready for 8+years and are already 20+ years old. For example the Astros first overall pick was a 22 year old who won't be MLB ready until he's 32.

                Why are rookies like this even created, who has a 99 potential that they won't reach for a decade? Anyone notice this as well? is there any work around for it other than going in and editing players after they were drafted to boost their current overall to make them MLB ready sooner?
                Just out of curiosity, what are the players like ahead of him at that position?? Could it be something like the MLB-level player is fairly young (say mid-20's) and is just hitting their stride (say ready to have a solid 6-8 year run)??

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                • Mrmagoo
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 669

                  #9
                  Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                  Originally posted by nick_sr
                  i'm not trusting that feature until I know it is a sure thing. beyond excited for it but i need to make sure it will work before i commit to it.
                  No doubt about that, but my point is what difference does it make if it does work if some of these things aren't cleaned up a bit? A long carried over franchise will only be as good as its weakest link. If we are going to have to do a bunch of editing with each draft along with all the other things we've been doing to keep a franchise half way reasonable well my excitement will wane fast.
                  I understand this is all 'what if' but have been thinking about issues like these since they have announced the ability to carry over. Hope all works out well tho!

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                  • CJ10
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 340

                    #10
                    Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                    Just edit their ages, thats what I do. No one drafts 25 year olds. Hell, are there even 25 year olds in the draft?

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                    • dazzelle
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 684

                      #11
                      Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                      Originally posted by NDAlum
                      30-team control would help this. I'm actually thinking of drafting for all teams in the next draft. They do their own scouting so I'll just browse their scouting list and try to take the best guy for them.
                      OT a bit but how do i draft for all teams. I am at the draft in a 30 team control franchise but can only draft for my team. I have tried putting all teams on the same profile and making it the default, but then it just auto drafts for every team including mine.Any tips.

                      edit: after doing some searching i think it may be set to auto under the profile/franchise options.
                      Last edited by dazzelle; 07-13-2014, 06:04 AM.

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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #12
                        Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                        You need to have two profiles set up. Make sure you change the CPU's profile for MANUAL drafting
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                        • Brandwin
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 30621

                          #13
                          Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                          I tried to draft for every team messing around, one team would have a player rated 67-91 with an ETA with 2018 and the next team would have the same player rated 44/52 ETA 2023. So I drafted best by their scout, but I still ended up with top picks not ready for MLB for years and some with worse ratings and overall than their scout showed.

                          How can we work around this?

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                          • tessl
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5683

                            #14
                            Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                            Originally posted by DookieMowf
                            I tried to draft for every team messing around, one team would have a player rated 67-91 with an ETA with 2018 and the next team would have the same player rated 44/52 ETA 2023. So I drafted best by their scout, but I still ended up with top picks not ready for MLB for years and some with worse ratings and overall than their scout showed.

                            How can we work around this?
                            That's the problem with the op's theory. He assumes every scout for every team is giving the same information.

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                            • Brandwin
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 30621

                              #15
                              Re: Terrible Drafting logic

                              The only thing I can think of is saving the day before the draft. Then sim through the draft and go through every pick, write down the best players and then draft in order by team by best player.

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