When To Stride ??

[xSubzer0x]

I'm having A LOT of difficulty with Stride Timing for some reason.It seems like no matter when I stride I can never get good or perfect.So can you guys may e give me some tips and help me ? ☺


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[bcruise]

Re: When To Stride ??

I'm having A LOT of difficulty with Stride Timing for some reason.It seems like no matter when I stride I can never get good or perfect.So can you guys may e give me some tips and help me ? ☺


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First, practice. Go into batting practice mode and just kind of trial and error it - see when you're late, when you're early, and when you're good or perfect. After enough tries you'll have a pretty good feel for the point in the pitcher's delivery that you should be starting the stride.

But if you're looking for a good reference point, the time to stride is generally when the pitcher has his arm cocked back as far as it will go, with the ball in hand, ready to bring it forward and deliver the pitch. Hit that point and you'll get at least "Good" stride timing most of the time. It does vary a bit by different pitchers though.

Hope that helps! It is different timing than last year - the ideal stride was much later in 13, almost when the pitcher was releasing the ball IIRC.

[HouseKeepinItReal]

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When you are in a game start off with zone batting interface and look when the computer strides then go back to your preferred hitting interface and repeat it as the computer has. It is different for each pitcher and batter but you can count on a lot more consistency for each pitcher throughout the game and it's not likely you need to swtich back n forth between each of your hitters. If you are using your RTTS player I would watch your own CPU teammates bat for a bit until you can recoqnize when they stride.

[Senator Palmer]

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I saw a post here a while back saying you should stride when the pitcher's arm is pointing a center field. I generally get pretty good timing results from this and generally in line with bcruise's suggestion. This was also echoed in the iQ&A the developers did a few months back.

They also expounded a bit on timing results. Don't get too caught up in "perfect", etc. "Just Early" for example is also a good result if you're batting with a power hitter.

[nomo17k]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...66&postcount=1

Just FYI:

Analog Hitting
There is a contact and power bonus/penalty for your stride timing (when you pull back). To practice, you can turn the PCI on. When you stride perfectly (about when the ball is released), the PCI grows slightly to reflect the bonus. When your stride is off it'll shrink, and if you simply stride before the windup the maximum penalty applies.

Your swing timing (when you push forward) is still the most important, but having both timings matter makes it harder to time your swing and may also change your swing strategy. If your stride timing is bad enough (and high enough priority to mention), the swing analysis will show it.

Analog Pitching
As always, pitcher ability and pitch type affect the difficulty of locating pitches. The perfect release timing varies for each pitcher and between the windup and stretch deliveries.

As detailed in the strategy guide, you can always see your release timing in the pitcher/batter analysis tool (press select and then L1/R1). Switch to the 'Meter Timing' filter and each pitch will be labeled with its release timing.

In online games, your opponent doesn't see your meter. In local 2P games on one machine, the meter doesn't show the left/right result.

Heading out of town now, have fun!

Update
The perfect stride timing is based on time to plate, so for example knuckleballs and changeups have different stride timing. The PCI's bonus/penalty size change is not immediate but stretched over time.

Analog hitting has the power/contact/normal swing functionality. The in-game strategy guide goes into detail on the differences between these three.

When the batter doesn't swing, you get pitch info instead of swing analysis. The release timing text is for the pitcher's pitch release and not the batter. So in single player, it's telling you the CPU's timing on the meter. It works in 2P as well.

[nomo17k]

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Having quoted that, I think it would be more enjoyable to stride on your natural timing. If you really don't like the hard-coded stride timing, I would just lower the Stride Timing slider all the way down to reduce the penalty, and just find the way you feel most comfortable.

IRL, I was a hitter with a longer stride timing (than what the game imposes, which is right after the pitch release, adjusted by the speed of the particular pitch), so with Analog I also wanted to have a rather long stride.

[Battman]

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I never had a problem with my stride in the past. This year I was always "Just late". It was not until the day before yesterday that I found the reason and now I am adjusting my routine. The results are already there: I had my best franchise game in MLB 14 yesterday, when I beat San Diego with my Giants with 14:1.
That's what caused my problem with the stride:
In the past I was always late on fastballs. Thats why I changed my routine with MLB 12 so that I did not fully pull the analog stick back, but just enough so that my player made his backswing. This had the advantage that my reaction time was shorter to pull the stick up. This routine has never impacted negatively on the stride in former iterations of The Show. I could easily get good or perfect strides. But they definitely changed something in 14. So I had to adjust my routine.
I changed that now so that I start a very slow but full pullback of the stick just before the pitchers arm is fully stretched. As SCEA fractionally slowered the ball speed with 2013 (or is it that my reactions get better with age? No!) I still have enough time to hit even a fastball in the high 90s.(playing All-star with ball speed slider at 7) With this change my stride is getting better and better and I even get some "perfect" strides. So in short my advice is a slower backswing.

[jeterboy12]

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ANOLOG HITTING ONLY!

If the batter has a high leg kick, start right after the pitcher breaks his hands, short leg kick start at the release point, it might take practice but after a while it becomes easy

[southpawOG]

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ANOLOG HITTING ONLY!

If the batter has a high leg kick, start right after the pitcher breaks his hands, short leg kick start at the release point, it might take practice but after a while it becomes easy

so it's different for every batter?

[NCAAFootballFreak]

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so it's different for every batter?

Essentially, yes. When you "edit" a player, you can look at their stride setting. You can actually go in to each of your hitters and give them all essentially the same "stride" if that will help you get more resistant results with each of your hitters.

However, I like the variety and the challenge of learning my team. It's fun thinking "Okay, this is Beltre -- he has a big stride and I need to start with him a little earlier. Meanwhile, Andrus barely strides at all so I can wait a bit with him."

[bcruise]

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To be honest, I don't even think about the stride timing among different batters and pitchers because I know the general point at which to step in order to get normal results. I'm not one who has to get "Perfect" every time, nor is it necessary to do that with Analog Hitting. Even just early or just late will give you a PCI that covers the same typical third of the plate that zone does (at least on All-Star, although it depends on the pitcher's and hitter's ratings as well). It's when you start getting into Bad Stride territory (which means like over a second early or late) that you only really start taking serious contact penalties, and you almost have to try to accomplish that.

Bottom line is I don't overthink this, and that's what allows me to enjoy it.

[southpawOG]

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what is the best timing for hitting the ball and stepping in your stride? for example should i make contact with the ball at the exact time my foot hits the ground or should i step down a little bit before i make contact? thanks

[Senator Palmer]

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what is the best timing for hitting the ball and stepping in your stride? for example should i make contact with the ball at the exact time my foot hits the ground or should i step down a little bit before i make contact? thanks

I really struggled with this -- I spent endless games going back and forth with my technique -- whether to focus on my player's stride or the pitcher's arm. When I did focus on my player's stride, I got good results by making contact as my player's foot hit the ground, btw.

But then I heard this same question asked to a developer (can't remember if I read it, or if it was in the podcast I referenced), and the the dev said that the player's individual stride didn't really factor into the timing, that it really was about the pitcher's arm.

I can tell you that the best and most consistent results I have gotten (good to perfect) has been from the technique of pulling back on the analog just as the pitcher's arm apexes in his motion and just ignore your guy's stride. I don't always like the animations in replays. For instance when I have a guy with a short stride I'll pull the stick back with the pitcher's arm pointed at center field and his foot will hit and wait on the ball, but the feedback will say "perfect" stride timing.

All in all, whichever way you go, as cruise mentioned, it's best not to overthink it. I found when I get too focused on my stride timing I get messy at the plate.

[nomo17k]

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I don't think stride timing is different for hitters with different strides. The original comment by Brian@SCEA was that the best stride timing is determined relative to the pitch (speed). I also remember a tiny bit disappointed when I read that the stride timing was not tied to the swing animation. I don't exactly remember where I read that... it could be theshownation.com not here.