New Attribute Idea

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: New Attribute Idea

No worries, I take constructive criticism well. ;-) I want to fix any bugs.


Unfortunately, no videos in that thread. I was posting in/following it for a while until it died.


Every time, the exchange seems to go...


OP: Fielding sucks! The fielder takes too long, and the runner was safe. Cost me the game! It happens ALL THE TIME!


WW: That should never happen. Here are a bunch of things on your end that could have caused the issue...PLEASE SEND A VIDEO.


OP: *crickets*


WW: Could you please send a video? It would really help resolve the issue. If it happens all the time, it should not be to difficult to find an example. If you are having trouble recording video, I can help....


OP: *crickets*<crickets></crickets>

And here I figured the less intimidating froggy avatar would have you up to your eyeballs in constructive critiquing PM's! You're much more approachable now!

I use Auto Field and Auto Throw Woodweaver, have logged well over 200 games in at this point, and feel that hurry-up animations/throws are actually pretty great.

I haven't seen what the OP has described at all (THIS YEAR. I have seen it in previous iterations).

I'd assume human error or interface issue (not saying there is, I just don't use the interfaces to field myself) in this instance but without video it would be impossible to tell.

[kmoser]

Re: New Attribute Idea

And here I figured the less intimidating froggy avatar would have you up to your eyeballs in constructive critiquing PM's! You're much more approachable now!

I use Auto Field and Auto Throw Woodweaver, have logged well over 200 games in at this point, and feel that hurry-up animations/throws are actually pretty great.

I haven't seen what the OP has described at all (THIS YEAR. I have seen it in previous iterations).

I'd assume human error or interface issue (not saying there is, I just don't use the interfaces to field myself) in this instance but without video it would be impossible to tell.

I believe I am somehow doing it wrong. I will fill the meter full power in the green zone and sometimes my fielder acts like a Molina is running down the line when it could be someone fast. However, the CPU gets off throws good and fast if the runner is fast and this problem (if I even should call it that) has never happened to me when I was batting. Not sure what I am doing to make the player take his time.


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[Heroesandvillains]

Re: New Attribute Idea

I believe I am somehow doing it wrong. I will fill the meter full power in the green zone and sometimes my fielder acts like a Molina is running down the line when it could be someone fast. However, the CPU gets off throws good and fast if the runner is fast and this problem (if I even should call it that) has never happened to me when I was batting. Not sure what I am doing to make the player take his time.


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Hey man, just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist!

Maybe it's you; maybe it's not. Maybe some rare situation causes an animation branch point to not be reached. Who knows?

If you have any way to capture video, please capture it and share. I know that SCEA SD has spent a great deal of time working on hurry-up animations in an attempt to circumvent the very scenario you described.

If it still exists in any capacity, they want to fix it. As you can probably tell, this area of the game has significantly improved over the years. This is because those situations should never really happen and because they are dedicated to fixing the times when they do (did).

[Madden's Jowels]

Re: New Attribute Idea

Just a ?


If you're trying to come up firing on a line from the outfield, do you want to stop the meter in the beginning of the green area or the end? Or the middle?


Sometimes I feel like I need to hold it as long as I can while still in the green to get more throw power, but then he'll end up doing something like throw the ball with an insane rainbow arc rather than on a rope.

[kmoser]

Re: New Attribute Idea

Hey man, just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist!

Maybe it's you; maybe it's not. Maybe some rare situation causes an animation branch point to not be reached. Who knows?

If you have any way to capture video, please capture it and share. I know that SCEA SD has spent a great deal of time working on hurry-up animations in an attempt to circumvent the very scenario you described.

If it still exists in any capacity, they want to fix it. As you can probably tell, this area of the game has significantly improved over the years. This is because those situations should never really happen and because they are dedicated to fixing the times when they do (did).

Well I would like to capture a video but for 1. It's inconsistent and doesn't happen all the time and 2. My wifi "Finder" broke in my ps3 a few weeks back and I can't connect to the internet unless I use an ethernet cable and sometimes for me that can be a pain. I'll see what I can do however.

Just a ?


If you're trying to come up firing on a line from the outfield, do you want to stop the meter in the beginning of the green area or the end? Or the middle?


Sometimes I feel like I need to hold it as long as I can while still in the green to get more throw power, but then he'll end up doing something like throw the ball with an insane rainbow arc rather than on a rope.

It doesn't matter where you land in the green meter that determines the power of the throw. It depends on how hard you press the button, I believe. So if you want to throw to first, hold down the circle button harder to make a harder throw. The meter above the player is just how accurate the throw will be.


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[Madden's Jowels]

Re: New Attribute Idea

It doesn't matter where you land in the green meter that determines the power of the throw. It depends on how hard you press the button, I believe. So if you want to throw to first, hold down the circle button harder to make a harder throw. The meter above the player is just how accurate the throw will be.


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I'm pretty sure the dualshock 4 does not have pressure-sensitive feedback on the face buttons, but I could be wrong.

[kmoser]

Re: New Attribute Idea

I'm pretty sure the dualshock 4 does not have pressure-sensitive feedback on the face buttons, but I could be wrong.

Go test it out in an exhibition game. Maybe you just have to hold it longer. It just seems when I hold it down harder it works. Could be just me though lol


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[KBLover]

Re: New Attribute Idea

LOL! Jr, I see a public relations job in your future!

Wouldn't it still appear negatively to the player that gets a zero?

Make it hidden and you'll never know unless you play him and watch for it

[Bobhead]

Re: New Attribute Idea

No worries, I take constructive criticism well. ;-) I want to fix any bugs.


Unfortunately, no videos in that thread. I was posting in/following it for a while until it died.


Every time, the exchange seems to go...


OP: Fielding sucks! The fielder takes too long, and the runner was safe. Cost me the game! It happens ALL THE TIME!


WW: That should never happen. Here are a bunch of things on your end that could have caused the issue...PLEASE SEND A VIDEO.


OP: *crickets*


WW: Could you please send a video? It would really help resolve the issue. If it happens all the time, it should not be to difficult to find an example. If you are having trouble recording video, I can help....


OP: *crickets*<crickets></crickets>

Well it's not like we can just snap our fingers and videos appear magically. I've been trying to upload a replay video for this very thread, from my PS3, for like 15 minutes now, and I've had no success. The uploader won't even work. If this process were less cumbersome, I'm sure there would be videos all over the place.

[fullmetal2405]

Re: New Attribute Idea

Sure, but isn't it negative when a player has a low "Contact" rating... or any rating for that matter? Everything can't be rainbows and roses when it comes to this stuff.

Not really negative. Everyone knows that not all pro athletes are equal, so basic rating type stuff like Contact and Power are supposed to be higher and lower for everyone. Otherwise we'd be playing with the same player in a different uniform. As for something like an attitude attribute if that is scored negatively then, in the MLB's eyes, that is an issue as it reflects negatively on the personality/likability of the player and even the league as a whole. These guys are supposed to be role models for kids, so the MLB wouldn't want someone to be listed with a low attribute or a "slacker" personality. Similar to them not wanting to show guys spitting/shooting snot rockets/chewing tobacco on TV or in the game.

[KBLover]

Re: New Attribute Idea

These guys are supposed to be role models for kids, so the MLB wouldn't want someone to be listed with a low attribute or a "slacker" personality. Similar to them not wanting to show guys spitting/shooting snot rockets/chewing tobacco on TV or in the game.

Even though everyone knew about Manny's "effort" and "personality quirks".

I understand that's their view point, I just think it's funny because "every athlete is not the same" which also means some have to work harder than others to get to where they are/maintain where they are. It's like giving someone "F" potential. You're basically saying "you're not good and never will be good". Why not ban that? It IS negative to suck at hitting, or pitching, or defense.

I wonder if sports leagues have overly idealized views of their players. NFL is the same way. We see guys and hear guys doing all kinds of "unwholesome" stuff, on and off the field, but "that can't be in a game because we don't want our players portrayed that way" - how about telling that to your players? It's no secret who gets banned for PEDs who dragged their knocked out girlfriend across a security tape, who was up on possible murder charges, who's a 'diva', who's a "me-first" player, what rookie QB was literally uncoachable, etc.

After all, one big reason some of us want this in game is because it happens in real life to the actual players...

[Greencollarbaseball]

Re: New Attribute Idea

The "slow or nonchalant" animation for outfielders happens more than I think it should, especially if I am trying to come up firing to a base to get a runner. As for the infielders, I haven't really seen it happen where it results in the runner being safe. I use auto-fielding with button (meter off) throwing. I use meter off because the field to throw animations are a lot smoother.

Also the "run into and put your hands on the wall" animation is painfully slow and not realistic, to what it would be like if runners were on base. They need to brace themselves quickly, then turn and fire. I'll try to remember to get video's next time it happens.

[kmoser]

Re: New Attribute Idea

The "slow or nonchalant" animation for outfielders happens more than I think it should, especially if I am trying to come up firing to a base to get a runner. As for the infielders, I haven't really seen it happen where it results in the runner being safe. I use auto-fielding with button (meter off) throwing. I use meter off because the field to throw animations are a lot smoother.

Also the "run into and put your hands on the wall" animation is painfully slow and not realistic, to what it would be like if runners were on base. They need to brace themselves quickly, then turn and fire. I'll try to remember to get video's next time it happens.

Yeah I've noticed the "slowness" of the outfielders as well. Especially the wall animation you mentioned.


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[Heroesandvillains]

Re: New Attribute Idea

The "slow or nonchalant" animation for outfielders happens more than I think it should, especially if I am trying to come up firing to a base to get a runner. As for the infielders, I haven't really seen it happen where it results in the runner being safe. I use auto-fielding with button (meter off) throwing. I use meter off because the field to throw animations are a lot smoother.

Also the "run into and put your hands on the wall" animation is painfully slow and not realistic, to what it would be like if runners were on base. They need to brace themselves quickly, then turn and fire. I'll try to remember to get video's next time it happens.

From a vanity perspective I agree. It's too long and drawn out.

From a "doubles" perspective I'm all for it. Until outfielders are properly toned back in their speed-bursts, I'll take an extra bag, for satistical realism, with pleasure.

[Greencollarbaseball]

Re: New Attribute Idea

From a vanity perspective I agree. It's too long and drawn out.

From a "doubles" perspective I'm all for it. Until outfielders are properly toned back in their speed-bursts, I'll take an extra bag, for satistical realism, with pleasure.

I totally agree, if I have to take one or the other, I would prefer it the way it is than a lack of extra base hits.