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  • DemurOnion
    Banned
    • May 2014
    • 72

    #106
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

    It's going to be on the wall for me. Those graphics looked old as far as I am concerned. Grass still pale and lifeless. Animations looked iffy but we'll see. They do have three months of solid dev time and then another month for day one patch.

    I love The Show. But I need to see the back of a Yankee uni pronto. If they still have dated jersey templates there is no way in heck I'm paying 60 dollars for this.

    That grass coloring looked abysmal again, EXACTLY like it has looked for half a decade: completely wrong, meaning lighting engine and colorists are not doing their job or this trailer is simply not showing any of it off.

    Good to see Nike but that stuff is so superficial to detail oriented people like me that have suffered with the same huge constraints on color vs real world.

    A game like Driveclub gets coloring right imo mostly because of their godly lighting engine and knack for details. The Show idk what it is just has this dead color to it that is annoying when you go to games in real life as many others have stated before.
    Last edited by DemurOnion; 12-07-2014, 11:11 AM.

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    • aldon_47
      Rookie
      • Jun 2010
      • 117

      #107
      As always, Im very excited for The Show. Having the release date back to March is a big deal for me since living in frozen northern MN, having digital grass to play on helps ease the spring fever a bit. Im also very interested to learn more about the new radio show. I work a lot of afternoons/evenings and almost every night I have baseball on the radio listening to the Twins so I cant wait to hear how thats being implemented.

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      • DemurOnion
        Banned
        • May 2014
        • 72

        #108
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

        For instance, last year people were harping on real world colors and grass. Some people were going insane about it. I now see what they were talking about where at first I wasn't really seeing it:

        Real Dodger Stadium Sod:

        Now go back to that trailer and look at the grass. It looks like some kind of dead and mistreated grass and it has looked like this for a long time. The trailer at 17 seconds exemplifies it. It looks so wrong it hurts.
        Last edited by DemurOnion; 12-07-2014, 11:21 AM.

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        • nemesis04
          RIP Ty My Buddy
          • Feb 2004
          • 13530

          #109
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

          While I can understand why people are underwhelmed visually. The graphical upgrades generally get added later. I am pretty sure we are not looking at the end product.
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          • DemurOnion
            Banned
            • May 2014
            • 72

            #110
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

            Originally posted by nemesis04
            While I can understand why people are underwhelmed visually. The graphical upgrades generally get added later. I am pretty sure we are not looking at the end product.
            Because you can't polish a rock into a diamond with three months of dev time. To me that looked like the engine they were using on PS3 spiffed up a bit.
            Last edited by DemurOnion; 12-07-2014, 11:27 AM.

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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42520

              #111
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

              DemurOnion, I don't have a quote and it most certainly wasn't in an article, but thinking about it I seem to remember somebody (maybe a community member and not a developer) that the field would get more attention this year. I don't know if that was with regard to physics, patterns, detail, degradation, colors, water effects, etc. but I kind of would be surprised too if the grass remained the same by release, and of course disappointed.

              I'm sure it takes more than just changing a single hex code, though.
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              • DemurOnion
                Banned
                • May 2014
                • 72

                #112
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                Originally posted by Blzer
                DemurOnion, I don't have a quote and it most certainly wasn't in an article, but thinking about it I seem to remember somebody (maybe a community member and not a developer) that the field would get more attention this year. I don't know if that was with regard to physics, patterns, detail, degradation, colors, water effects, etc. but I kind of would be surprised too if the grass remained the same by release, and of course disappointed.

                I'm sure it takes more than just changing a single hex code, though.
                Yeah, it could require a completely new lighting engine at this point IDK. I do know it looks awful still.

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                • Bobhead
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4926

                  #113
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                  Originally posted by DemurOnion
                  Because you can't polish a rock into a diamond with three months of dev time. To me that looked like the engine they were using on PS3 spiffed up a bit.
                  He's already banned so I know there's not much of a point but I wanted to bring attention to the fallacy here. The post wrongly assumes that a) the trailer was made yesterday and b) that just because a "rock" is featured in the trailer, SCEA has no diamonds in its inventory.

                  Maybe in whatever new graphics build they are working on, players don't even have left arms yet. Alternatively, they have this random ps3 build sitting around already ready to use.

                  It's a lot easier (and more importantly, cheaper) to make a trailer from a stable pre-existing build, then it is to scramble trying to make a trailer out of a half-processed "diamond." Especially when the trailer has nothing to do with jewelry.

                  We also have no idea when the trailer was made, but since SCEA had been teasing these very announcements for a couple weeks, I think it is safe to assume the trailer is at least a month old, if not more.

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                  • ShowTyme15
                    LADetermined
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11853

                    #114
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                    It doesn't even matter man he would have come up with some crap to try and justify that he was right and you were wrong.
                    Originally posted by Bobhead
                    He's already banned so I know there's not much of a point but I wanted to bring attention to the fallacy here. The post wrongly assumes that a) the trailer was made yesterday and b) that just because a "rock" is featured in the trailer, SCEA has no diamonds in its inventory.

                    Maybe in whatever new graphics build they are working on, players don't even have left arms yet. Alternatively, they have this random ps3 build sitting around already ready to use.

                    It's a lot easier (and more importantly, cheaper) to make a trailer from a stable pre-existing build, then it is to scramble trying to make a trailer out of a half-processed "diamond." Especially when the trailer has nothing to do with jewelry.

                    We also have no idea when the trailer was made, but since SCEA had been teasing these very announcements for a couple weeks, I think it is safe to assume the trailer is at least a month old, if not more.
                    Last edited by ShowTyme15; 12-07-2014, 12:09 PM.

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                    • strawberryshortcake
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2438

                      #115
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                      Originally posted by Steve_OS
                      Year-to-Year Saves – Users who purchased MLB 14 The Show will be able to continue their Franchise and Road to the Show progress in MLB 15 The Show. Saves between the two releases will be forward-compatible, meaning you never have to worry about starting your Franchise or Road to the Show seasons over!
                      Was hoping for real cloth physics. Was hoping the rigid boxy arm sleeves would be gone.

                      Any word on whether or not saves can be carried over from MLB14 to MLB16 if one decides to skip MLB15? Doubt anyone can really answer this question.
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                      • Bobhead
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4926

                        #116
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                        Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                        Was hoping for real cloth physics. Was hoping the rigid boxy arm sleeves would be gone.

                        Any word on whether or not saves can be carried over from MLB14 to MLB16 if one decides to skip MLB15? Doubt anyone can really answer this question.
                        If the answer is no, worst comes to worst you could rent MLB 15 (or buy & immediately return it) for one day, on the day MLB 16 comes, out, just for the purpose of moving forward with your save.

                        If saves are transferrable (like onto external drives), I'll do you one better and say I'd be glad to convert your save for you. You could send your '14 save to me, I'll convert it into MLB'15, then send it back to you so you can take it from there.

                        No idea if PS4 saves can be copied/moved onto flash drives and stuff though.

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                        • Grnngld
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 113

                          #117
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                          If it takes 3-4 years to make the graphical jump to be on par with other sports games, I'm not sure why I wouldn't wait to purchase 3-4 years from now.

                          I also don't understand why I, as a consumer, should care that the Show's dev team is smaller than the teams for other sports titles. I'm not responsible for that; Sony is. All I know is that the Show costs the same amount of money as those other sports titles. Hence it should measure up to those other games in every way. If it doesn't, again I have the option to not purchase the game, and Sony has the option to push the dev team up to par.

                          Hopefully others are right that they're releasing the most underwhelming pieces of info first and getting to the big stuff later. Although, as someone who works in advertising, I've literally never heard of this strategy before. Every brand we work with prefer to push their newest offerings first, front and center, since it's basic knowledge that positive first impressions are the key to success.
                          Last edited by Grnngld; 12-07-2014, 12:24 PM.

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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #118
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                            Originally posted by DemurOnion
                            Because you can't polish a rock into a diamond with three months of dev time. To me that looked like the engine they were using on PS3 spiffed up a bit.

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                            • Bobhead
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4926

                              #119
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Trailer, Features Licensed Equipment, Release Date March 31, 2015

                              Originally posted by Grnngld
                              If it takes 3-4 years to make the graphical jump to be on par with other sports games, I'm not sure why I wouldn't wait to purchase 3-4 years from now.

                              I also don't understand why I, as a consumer, should care that the Show's dev team is smaller than the teams for other sports titles. I'm not responsible for that; Sony is. All I know is that the Show costs the same amount of money as those other sports titles. Hence it should measure up to those other games in every way. If it doesn't, again I have the option to not purchase the game, and Sony has the option to push the dev team up to par.

                              Hopefully others are right that they're releasing the least underwhelming pieces of info first and getting to the big stuff later. Although, as someone who works in advertising, I've literally never heard of this strategy before. Every brand we work with prefer to push their newest offerings first, front and center, since it's basic knowledge that positive first impressions are the key to success.
                              All great points, especially the first two, which I completely agree with.

                              On your last point, though, to be fair, they haven't "pushed" anything. It's not like this trailer is playing on TV during ESPN commercial breaks. I haven't seen any billboards on my way to work telling me about directional hitting. Just because the trailer exists doesn't mean it is the trailer they are "pushing" or relying upon for marketing purposes. I think we should withhold judgment on their 2015 marketing campaign until they actually have one.

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                              • Burge88
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 38

                                #120
                                They need to add player physics. No more players running through each other, or players just continue running into a wall with out being phased.
                                It would be a big step up if y'all added some kind of physics engine to the game.
                                I do love the brands though! I've always wanted that! And I'm excited for the legends and radio show!

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