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  • ryanmc564
    Pro
    • Jan 2014
    • 765

    #46
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

    Originally posted by Strings74
    While I don't really disagree with what you are saying, have you seen the leap Uncharted 4 is about to make in the visuals department?

    To wit:

    I have not seen that picture, I did however watch the 15min game play video of uncharted 4 and to me it looks like uncharted with some improved/ new animation and better resolution but it still the same formula and gameplay,and still looks like a naughty dog game. I do believe character model in The Show will change some throughout the years with different body types and finer details among everything else in game , but I guess what I'm getting at that we won't ever see a completely different looking/playing game. it will always look like a game made by the same developers.

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    • Strings74
      Rookie
      • Mar 2010
      • 457

      #47
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

      Originally posted by ryanmc564
      I have not seen that picture, I did however watch the 15min game play video of uncharted 4 and to me it looks like uncharted with some improved/ new animation and better resolution but it still the same formula and gameplay,and still looks like a naughty dog game. I do believe character model in The Show will change some throughout the years with different body types and finer details among everything else in game , but I guess what I'm getting at that we won't ever see a completely different looking/playing game. it will always look like a game made by the same developers.
      I agree. the NBA 2k series did a good job of updating it's visual style while maintaining its identity. I'm sure The Show will get there eventually.

      It's interesting how The Show kind of drove the other games for a time and now it may be the reverse.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42515

        #48
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

        Originally posted by ryanmc564
        I have not seen that picture, I did however watch the 15min game play video of uncharted 4 and to me it looks like uncharted with some improved/ new animation and better resolution but it still the same formula and gameplay,and still looks like a naughty dog game. I do believe character model in The Show will change some throughout the years with different body types and finer details among everything else in game , but I guess what I'm getting at that we won't ever see a completely different looking/playing game. it will always look like a game made by the same developers.
        I'd say the majority of development time for platformers and sandbox games are on story elements and environments. Remember, baseball games largely use the same rules (as it is for that sport anyway), venues, rosters, and commentary. Other games have to revamp all of that for each new iteration.

        The rest of it would be devoted to what you're talking about, and then some: character models, AI, online play, game design features, etc. Of course, they have more development time... but I just think most of that is done in pre-alpha, then they have to really go through the entire map of the whole game and make sure everything goes as expected.
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        • seanjeezy
          The Future
          • Aug 2009
          • 3347

          #49
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

          I'm really hoping that improvements were made to created player generation, 99.9% of draftees look pretty whack lol. There also needs to be a few weighted parameters, like equipment style, names to birthplace, etc.

          I'm optimistic that the new skin tones also means higher quality skin textures on par with the face scans.

          Also, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet but it looks like the bloom has been toned down or (hopefully) removed. It got downright horrendous at points last year, like glowstick-esque. Hoping that the new lighting model has ambient occlusion in some form.
          Last edited by seanjeezy; 12-11-2014, 02:00 PM.
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          • ryanmc564
            Pro
            • Jan 2014
            • 765

            #50
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

            Originally posted by seanjeezy

            I'm optimistic that the new skin tones also means higher quality skin textures on par with the face scans.

            .





            this is what I don't get when it comes to the face scans they do, this is probably one of my biggest gripes when it come to face scans or player models. but I'm more or less just curious on what happens in the process that the image on the left turns into the image on the right and why they are so different from each other.

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            • seanjeezy
              The Future
              • Aug 2009
              • 3347

              #51
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

              The complexity of the geometry is probably different.

              The funny thing is that neither version really looks like Buster. The updated version is better, but there's still something off about it. Looks like James Franco lol
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              • ryanmc564
                Pro
                • Jan 2014
                • 765

                #52
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                Originally posted by seanjeezy
                The complexity of the geometry is probably different.

                The funny thing is that neither version really looks like Buster. The updated version is better, but there's still something off about it. Looks like James Franco lol


                lol, you're right, the image on the right does look more like james franco. damn that dude is in everything these days.

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                • Sayheykid01
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 114

                  #53
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                  Looks like you'll be able to choose what webbing you want on your gloves this year, the Giant's pitcher looks like he has some sort of H web.

                  As for graphics, I'm going to go with the wait and see approach. Even though I would love new player models, I think that lighting can make a HUGE difference.

                  I think if they nail the lighting and improve the fluidity of animations in general, it can do wonders for the game.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52731

                    #54
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                    I must be in the minority, because I personally think the game looks good. But then again, I grew playing Atari, Nintendo, and Sega Genesis.



                    And while the point will be overlooked and downplayed, with the game releasing on March 31st this year, when it released in May of last year, means the game has a shorter development cycle.
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                    • Jimmydm90
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 405

                      #55
                      MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                      I recognize the posey on the left as buster posey but the model on the right looks like a somewhat cartoony generic create player with no resemblance to the SF catcher. Probably has a lot to do with the lighting. Also Create-a-Posey's nose, neck/jaw line and mouth are wrong.

                      I think emotive facial animations and life-like eyes (not the dead fish we've got now) would be HUGE help. The eyes are the worst part of the Puig trailer for me.

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                      • rudyjuly2
                        Cade Cunningham
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 14815

                        #56
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        And while the point will be overlooked and downplayed, with the game releasing on March 31st this year, when it released in May of last year, means the game has a shorter development cycle.
                        Madden had a short development cycle last year too releasing the next gen game 3 months later than normal but still saw a big improvement in graphics.

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                        • HustlinOwl
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 9713

                          #57
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                          Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                          Madden had a short development cycle last year too releasing the next gen game 3 months later than normal but still saw a big improvement in graphics.
                          yea and about 5 times the budget and dev team

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                          • nemesis04
                            RIP Ty My Buddy
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 13530

                            #58
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                            Originally posted by Sayheykid01

                            As for graphics, I'm going to go with the wait and see approach. Even though I would love new player models, I think that lighting can make a HUGE difference.
                            When you say player model are you talking about skeletal proportions? Or is it skin tones, uniforms or their art interpretation as a whole? Just curious because I see people mention this a lot without specifics.
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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42515

                              #59
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                              Originally posted by nemesis04
                              When you say player model are you talking about skeletal proportions? Or is it skin tones, uniforms or their art interpretation as a whole? Just curious because I see people mention this a lot without specifics.
                              I always mean skeletal proportions when I say that. But it also has largely to do with how the body scales and animates with it.

                              Since the PSX days of 989 developing this game, increasing the body weight has always felt like the player just gets stretched wide. It's hard to explain, but that's just what it feels like.

                              Arms aren't as stubby anymore (surely everyone knows my JP reference), but the upper body is still so stocky that the arms can't wrap around naturally still.

                              Heads are too big, legs are too small.

                              Somebody a very good interpretation using Freddie Freeman and re-molding his skeletal system. I'll do some digging.

                              New player models is a huge undertaking, though. Every animation is tied into their current skeletal system. Every animation would have to be redone, this includes batting stances and pitching motions.
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                              • merchant1874
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 1337

                                #60
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

                                Originally posted by nemesis04
                                When you say player model are you talking about skeletal proportions? Or is it skin tones, uniforms or their art interpretation as a whole? Just curious because I see people mention this a lot without specifics.

                                When I say it I mostly mean uniforms followed by skeletal proportions. The two probably go hand in hand though.

                                If they were just to make the uniforms better (better textures, better cloth physics, open/ closed buttons, logo scale on caps/sleeves) I think it would make a massive difference to the look of the game.

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