MLB 15 The Show Screenshots Captured From Trailer

[Turbojugend]

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Since the PSX days of 989 developing this game, increasing the body weight has always felt like the player just gets stretched wide. It's hard to explain, but that's just what it feels like.

Totally feel what you're saying here. Take Panda for instance, his model looks like they used a horizontal scaling tool to increase his girth.

[Sayheykid01]

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When you say player model are you talking about skeletal proportions? Or is it skin tones, uniforms or their art interpretation as a whole? Just curious because I see people mention this a lot without specifics.

For me personally, I'm talking about the skeleton of a player. Like some others have said, it seems like the heavier players just have a larger torso which could be a big reason proportions look a little off.

I do think A LOT of this has to do with how the jerseys are interacting with the body. If the jerseys just "fell" a little more, I think it could make a huge difference in how the body types look.

[Factzzz]

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yea and about 5 times the budget and dev team

Didn't stop the Show from looking 2000x better on last gen, that's just an excuse.

When you say player model are you talking about skeletal proportions? Or is it skin tones, uniforms or their art interpretation as a whole? Just curious because I see people mention this a lot without specifics.

The main thing is giving players better body types (skeletal proportions) that match their real life selves better. It seems like they have three body types. There needs to be a lot more. Players like Sandoval (big belly), Darvish (long neck), Freeman and Heyward (long legs ands arms), and many many many more players body's don't like real life.

And the uniforms need to be a lot better too, different sizes, button options, and better "cloth physics."

[thaSLAB]

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yea and about 5 times the budget and dev team

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[Factzzz]

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Somebody a very good interpretation using Freddie Freeman and re-molding his skeletal system. I'll do some digging.

I believe this is what you're looking for:

some visuals!

Using the assumption that they may be the same skeleton used in the PS4 version, I wanted to show some of what I THINK stands out to people still.

Though most of the proportions seem correct when I measure, there is a general feel of the players legs seeming short (especially from the knee down)..you can see this in the Verlander image) and large heads (you can see this in the Freeman model and players like Kershaw and others). There is also something in the hips, and the combination makes the models seem "boyish", more like cartoon versions of themselves. It's subtle, but it does show...again using the Freeman image as an example.

In the Freeman image I copied the player model in the third shot and made very minor adjustments....reduced the head size, gave him broader shoulders and reduced the "flare" of the sleeves, and slightly increased the overall length of the hips/legs. Its going to be a preference I understand, though to me the adjusted image looks more like a man, and more representative of Freeman.

In general there does not seem to be a range of "figures" or body compositions which allow easier identification of who is who. Looking at the Rollins comparison, he looks pretty buff, and glanced quickly even resembles more of a Ryan Howard model. Part of this is the shoulders, partly since there is no "clothing hang" the pants and jerseys seem more that the player fills them out fully...making them bulkier than they really are.

It's one of the things I am amazed with in NBA 2k14, that even from a distance you can recognize players just by their player model...different levels of bulk and tone, fat, muscle, skinny etc., and then of course the fact that their clothing hangs off of that model, allows for even more realism.

Dont know if this answers the question from the developer, or hopefully shows visually what sometimes stands out. I have the flu...I have way too much time on my hands right now.

[HustlinOwl]

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Didn't stop the Show from looking 2000x better on last gen, that's just an excuse.

lmao really youre going to go there, yea that was at the end of the life cycle of the PS3 and what 6+ years working with the hardware. Again all subjective enjoy your weekend

[countryboy]

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Madden had a short development cycle last year too releasing the next gen game 3 months later than normal but still saw a big improvement in graphics.

And The Show may have a big improvement in graphics as well. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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For SCEA, who has ALWAYS had prime graphics, and being first party who has assumably first and best access to everything development wise, I expect them to meet the bar then raise it (HIGH) for whatever Madden did. EA's always been decent with graphics, but SCEA's always been better. I expect 15 to absolutely shine! Be patient, I expect in 4-6 weeks, we'll have our first in game screenshots that will show the quality this team is known for.

[kehlis]

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Let's not turn this into a comparison thread against other games please......

[headzapp]

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I like the new flags, and Dodger stadium looks better. The dugout looks like it has more detail. I hope other stadiums get upgrades like ballpark village in St. Louis. With backgrounds I wonder what it would look like to have real images of the back ground scenery. Like the mountains in L.A., Arch in St. Louis, and all the buildings. Just have night and day pictures, and add different skies to it.

[MauerMorneau09]

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Looks like you'll be able to choose what webbing you want on your gloves this year, the Giant's pitcher looks like he has some sort of H web.

As for graphics, I'm going to go with the wait and see approach. Even though I would love new player models, I think that lighting can make a HUGE difference.

I think if they nail the lighting and improve the fluidity of animations in general, it can do wonders for the game.

Pulling a page out of 2k's book with the webbing I see, always wanted that. Probably gonna be an equipment geek's dream this year.

[ShowTyme15]

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Pulling a page out of 2k's book with the webbing I see, always wanted that. Probably gonna be a equipment geek's dream this year.

Oh, it definitely will be. With name brand equipment I am sure there will be multiple webbing to choose from hopefully.

[Dude731]

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Player models need an overhaul, legs are too short or something movement is still a bit awkward. I'm sure I'll get trashed for this, but still doesn't quite look next gen. It looks stuck somewhere in between next gen and last gen.

[Factzzz]

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Player models need an overhaul, legs are too short or something movement is still a bit awkward. I'm sure I'll get trashed for this, but still doesn't quite look next gen. It looks stuck somewhere in between next gen and last gen.

Definitely agree with this, the player models definitely look last gen to me, the lighting and such look good though.

But i think, just how bad the player models look can really be seen by looking at the comparison picture of Jimmy Rollins:


Super big torso, wide hips, the way the uniform fits him, especially the jersey, etc.

The player models definitely need to be better, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be this year unfortunately (based on the pictures released so far), so hopefully next year.

[darkknightrises]

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lmao really youre going to go there, yea that was at the end of the life cycle of the PS3 and what 6+ years working with the hardware. Again all subjective enjoy your weekend

It is just an excuse. Mlb the show had hands down the best grapchis in a sports game form MLB 08 to MLB 13. Mlb 08 was only the second year on ps3 not 6.