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  • aguero90
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 1252

    #196
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

    hahahaha! I think I'll take it to old timers day! After all, I'll be sitting in the front row behind the plate, and you never know what kind of big stars will be sitting near me... Maybe I can get someone famous on record!! I'll bring my cane, and take off my glasses, and make sure I have a pen and things for signing! Gotta milk it!
    1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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    • seanjeezy
      The Future
      • Aug 2009
      • 3347

      #197
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

      Originally posted by Blzer
      They did, which makes this all the more unfortunate (because normally that means they won't be addressed again for a while). But sometimes things don't translate right. Maybe it's a different mic, maybe it's on a sound stage instead of on a field, maybe they used a different bat, maybe they hit it off a tee, maybe it was hit by a developer and not a pro, maybe they didn't account for all hit types. For the most part, you really only hear just a few sounds, and the bat can have millions of different sounds. Even some players have a different kind of "explosion" when they hit it.

      A bit off-topic, but it's like when I hear a player goes in and does his own mo-cap, say Buster Posey in 2011 or whatever year. Just because he went in and did it doesn't mean his stance was actually accurate. I watch him bat like 500 times a year, I'm not going to be placebo'd by the fact that somebody tells me who did what. Low and behold, it was bettered the next year. Apparently he just didn't do his own stance right, lol.
      <iframe src='http://m.mlb.com/shared/video/embed/embed.html?content_id=13103245&topic_id=7417714&wi dth=400&height=224&property=mlb' width='400' height='224' frameborder='0'>Your browser does not support iframes.</iframe>

      I know its for 2K but your point still stands. There is actually a comparison starting at 2:04

      Feliz has a pretty low effort delivery but his mocap is exceptionally low effort, almost like he's practicing pfp's lol
      Last edited by seanjeezy; 01-09-2015, 05:40 PM.
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      • Woodweaver
        Developer
        • Apr 2006
        • 1145

        #198
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

        Originally posted by Jimmydm90
        An Everyman casually recording sounds at a big public event. All you need is to record something you shouldn't have, something dangerous and you've got yourself the beginnings of a Hitchcock movie.


        ..or a sweet '80s Travolta movie.
        "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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        • Jimmydm90
          Rookie
          • Nov 2013
          • 405

          #199
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

          Originally posted by Woodweaver
          ..or a sweet '80s Travolta movie.

          Haha Depalma was definitely inspired by Hitchcock when he made Blow Out.

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          • Stolm
            Pro
            • May 2012
            • 649

            #200
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

            Originally posted by aguero90
            Every time I play the show, I think to myself that the sound of bat on ball really needs an upgrade! It just doesn't sound solid enough, not like a real bat on ball makes. I especially can tell the difference, because my hearing is unbelievable, (that saying about other senses being better when you lack one is true!) As it stands now, the sound is very "crcked bat sounding." not, "solid wood sound." Listen to a real life sound, then hear the show, and you'll see what I mean.
            Agreed. Even on a big home theatre system the sound off the bat sounds weak.

            The sound isn't deep enough.

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            • aguero90
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1252

              #201
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

              Yes, when I use my 5.1 sony home theater, it sounds like cracked bat and tinny, kind of like a wiffleball bat, but worse!
              1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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              • aguero90
                MVP
                • Oct 2013
                • 1252

                #202
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                Just listened to mlb 08, before they re-recorded, and it sounded great! Solid and perfect. Plus, they should put back Matt reading the lineups, that was a great touch that they took out.
                1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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                • MauerMorneau09
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 675

                  #203
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                  The bat sounds literally need to have more crack in them, it kinda sounds like a pop haha. Ik it sounds weird, but it almost seems like you're hitting with a dense wiffleball bat.

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                  • tnixen
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 3184

                    #204
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                    Originally posted by aguero90
                    Just listened to mlb 08, before they re-recorded, and it sounded great! Solid and perfect. Plus, they should put back Matt reading the lineups, that was a great touch that they took out.
                    I very well could be wrong but I would think it would be pretty easy to use the bat sounds from MLB 08 The Show in MLB 15 The Show right?

                    Russell if your around can you ask the sound guys about this please?

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                    • Russell_SCEA
                      SCEA Community Manager
                      • May 2005
                      • 4161

                      #205
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                      Originally posted by nemesis04
                      They have recorded actual on field sound a few years back for this type stuff.
                      In a stadium with real baseballs and wooden bats using cutting edge recording equipment. But they don't sound real or good enough to some people.

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                      • Bobhead
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4926

                        #206
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                        Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                        In a stadium with real baseballs and wooden bats using cutting edge recording equipment. But they don't sound real or good enough to some people.
                        Who did the hitting and pitching?

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52704

                          #207
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          In a stadium with real baseballs and wooden bats using cutting edge recording equipment. But they don't sound real or good enough to some people.
                          its because you wasn't using licensed equipment until this year.
                          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #208
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                            Originally posted by Bobhead
                            Who did the hitting and pitching?
                            They went to a Lake Elsinore Storm game and recorded sounds individually and during a game.
                            Last edited by ShowTyme15; 01-09-2015, 10:45 PM.

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                            • aguero90
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1252

                              #209
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                              Maybe that's why it doesn't sound right... They used minor league for the show, not the show! I'm sure recording equipment was top of the line, but something got lost in translation, not sure what though. Maybe I just notice it more because of my good hearing? Who knows.
                              1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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                              • Bobhead
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 4926

                                #210
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                                Yeah I'd bet that thats a big part of it. Not only minor league players as mentioned above, but the stadiums are built differently. Pro stadiums are more enclosed, and produce a far stronger echo. The higher walls, more floors, and more circular seating (minor league stadiums usually only run seating along the sides, in semicircles).

                                When it comes to acoustics, the location is half the sound.

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