MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franchise

[Bobhead]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Can anyone put the new Human IK engine into simpler terms? What does it mean for the game? I'm intrigued.

Well the IK engine is a tool, not a result. There isn't really much to talk about until we know how exactly SCEA has decided to use it.

But it COULD mean groundbreaking improvements to the way fielders move apply tags, and react to thrown/batted balls, and the way baserunners run, reach for the base, and avoid tags. Things that were handled by individual animations before, will now be handled mathematically, which means less wonky stuff, and smoother, more precise and realistic movement.

Again, though, we will have to wait and see.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Very lucid Bob. Nice answer.

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Can anyone put the new Human IK engine into simpler terms? What does it mean for the game? I'm intrigued.

Here's a demo. The real strength of Human IK seems to be more realistic body structure (the way joints, bones, muscles move in tandem) and collision mapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blLBRmNA3zI

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[Cubfan]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

I haven't been able to get the $39.99 pre-order price... even after adding to the cart. Has anyone else had luck with this?

Or that is the price of the PS3 version.

[Clarke99]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

I wonder what exactly they mean by revamped commentary? What do you guys think. Maybe they'll have Matt V get way more excited, like he does on tv broadcasts. If we get tv Matt V, I'd be happy, because he sounds way better in real life. But then again, that's what makes a person a great voice actor. I couldn't tell the difference between Jon Miller on tv/radio, and 2k.

Heres the thing, I hear you Matty V is better in person but... a big part of the cringe worthy commentary is him being too excited already, not during big moments that could be amped up a bit, but during nothing moments like a guy striking out 3 times.


Example: actual dialogue - Get your hats out now, THATS HIS THIIIIRD STRIKE OUT OF THE GAME!


what it should be: In monotone or dumbed down, "Cespedes having a rough day.. 3rd time he's been sat down."


which sounds more normal to you?


The commentary as a hole as we all know is just horrendous. Its not so much the commentators (other than once upon a time Rex Hudler) its the lame delivery it seems SCEA makes them do

[aguero90]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Very true Clarke, and that's a big reason why we need a new voice. there are some announcers that can just nail a voice over, and sound just as good as real life, then there are guys like Matt, that sound like they're reading lines off a paper, and recording them. No matter what lines the studio gives, they don't control how you deliver them. Some guys just have "it." Indians radio man Tom Hamallton, if he did a video game, wouldn't be able to contain his excitement, because that's just how his voice works. If I was doing the show's pbp, I'd give it my best on every line, I'd actually have a great voice, and would do an amazing job! lol.

[@legendm0de]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Can anyone put the new Human IK engine into simpler terms? What does it mean for the game? I'm intrigued.

My take was

This should have some effect on player collision avoidance being much improved so there should be no more ghosting on the bases and at home plate especially. I can't wait to see this introduced, it should add so many subtleties to the ballgames giving a full next gen feel. I would also hope it improves how fielders make catches, and diving for balls which has always been a broken animation since they never really can reach for the ball. Might also improve the animations for batters during their swing, which always seemed pretty 1 dimensional.

And I'm very excited about that new tag system, I hope it's the most dynamic feature, it sounds like the new system will have alot of impact on how we feel about the game. Reminds me of how much goalies were improved on FIFA 15 and how that made the game so much more interesting alone.

[HypoLuxa13]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Very true Clarke, and that's a big reason why we need a new voice. there are some announcers that can just nail a voice over, and sound just as good as real life, then there are guys like Matt, that sound like they're reading lines off a paper, and recording them. No matter what lines the studio gives, they don't control how you deliver them. Some guys just have "it." Indians radio man Tom Hamallton, if he did a video game, wouldn't be able to contain his excitement, because that's just how his voice works. If I was doing the show's pbp, I'd give it my best on every line, I'd actually have a great voice, and would do an amazing job! lol.

Have you heard the commentary in NHL 15 yet? Ugh, makes Matt V and Lyons/Karros sound pretty dang good by comparison.

[Blzer]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Have you heard the commentary in NHL 15 yet? Ugh, makes Matt V and Lyons/Karros sound pretty dang good by comparison.

They're trying and tweaking a system that I think will get better as years go on (record them watching actual footage instead of reading lines). Once they get the proper amount of lines and the algorithms down, I think it will actually sound pretty good.

[aguero90]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

I agree, can't wait to hear this years improvements! And yes, I heard nhl's guys, not good! Because I rely on sound a lot, commentary can be the difference for me between buy or not in any sports game.

[WatchdogXC]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

I beat Far Cry 4 last night and noticed it used the HumanIK engine during the credits. Great game overall especially since I hadn't played any of the previous ones but the character animation and physics seemed pretty good in it.

I thought all along as good as 14 was 15 should be a lot better with full dev cycle and being the 2nd on the hardware. 08 was the start of The Show really becoming great. Next big step will be when they focus more on PS4 than doing the ps3 and Vita versions.

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[Blzer]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

I beat Far Cry 4 last night and noticed it used the HumanIK engine during the credits. Great game overall especially since I hadn't played any of the previous ones but the character animation and physics seemed pretty good in it.

I thought all along as good as 14 was 15 should be a lot better with full dev cycle and being the 2nd on the hardware. 08 was the start of The Show really becoming great. Next big step will be when they focus more on PS4 than doing the ps3 and Vita versions.

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I'm not so certain they had a full development cycle, with the later release. Not that it was much later, but it makes you wonder if next year will be the first "full" cycle.

I think MLB 09 was the start of The Show being really great on PS3, IMO.

[WatchdogXC]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

Yeah, 09 added the day to night transitions if I remember right. Just knew 08 was a big step up from 07. Have to think there isn't as big a learning curve as they had moving to the difficulty of the ps3 architecture.

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[Jimmydm90]

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Yeah, 09 added the day to night transitions if I remember right. Just knew 08 was a big step up from 07. Have to think there isn't as big a learning curve as they had moving to the difficulty of the ps3 architecture.

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My hope is that since they got a lot of the heavy lifting done for 14 (porting the infrastructure, building stadiums, etc), that they'll be able to make some pretty big strides for 15.

[MauerMorneau09]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

I'm not so certain they had a full development cycle, with the later release. Not that it was much later, but it makes you wonder if next year will be the first "full" cycle.

I think MLB 09 was the start of The Show being really great on PS3, IMO.

Agree with you there for MLB 09. MLB 08 had better graphics than 07, but MLB 09 definitely had better lighting and just overall looked better. I think MLB 11 into 12 was when things noticeably slowed down graphics wise.