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  • Sip_16
    Rookie
    • Feb 2013
    • 351

    #61
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

    Originally posted by ARMORALLL
    If they don't at least have an option to play with a closed roof in Toronto then I'm sitting this year out and waiting for 2016. I still have a season going with 13 so I'll stick with that as long as this is ignored.
    I don't understand this. If MLB the Show 15 turns out to be the best they have to offer at this point ( better than all previous editions) then how could a open/closed roof make you pass? I think it would be cool if Rogers Center could close but a make or break?

    I just dont understand it really.

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    • aguero90
      MVP
      • Oct 2013
      • 1252

      #62
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

      That could never be a deal breaker for me, mostly because I love baseball too much, but the biggest reason is I can't see if its closed or not!
      1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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      • RyanLaFalce
        MVP
        • Apr 2009
        • 2337

        #63
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

        Originally posted by Sip_16
        I don't understand this. If MLB the Show 15 turns out to be the best they have to offer at this point ( better than all previous editions) then how could a open/closed roof make you pass? I think it would be cool if Rogers Center could close but a make or break?

        I just dont understand it really.
        I agree. What would make it a "pass" for me is if it looked like a port of the PS3 version. I doubt that is the case though and it will look beautiful.

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        • Flaxseed Oil
          MVP
          • Feb 2007
          • 1160

          #64
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

          I really hope the new IK engine and animations effect the pitching deliveries. A lot of the deliveries look fake and video-game-ish (yes, I know it's a game).

          But realistic follow-throughs and just better-overall motion capture of animations would make the game a lot more realistic. And best of all, there's probably still time to accomplish this.

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          • burjeffton
            Rookie
            • Feb 2013
            • 264

            #65
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

            I haven't been able to get the $39.99 pre-order price... even after adding to the cart. Has anyone else had luck with this?
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            • RyanLaFalce
              MVP
              • Apr 2009
              • 2337

              #66
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

              Originally posted by burjeffton
              I haven't been able to get the $39.99 pre-order price... even after adding to the cart. Has anyone else had luck with this?
              I think it was just a mistake by Target. Whoever got it for $40 was lucky.

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              • PitholeCreek
                Rookie
                • Feb 2009
                • 85

                #67
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                Originally posted by Sip_16
                I don't understand this. If MLB the Show 15 turns out to be the best they have to offer at this point ( better than all previous editions) then how could a open/closed roof make you pass? I think it would be cool if Rogers Center could close but a make or break?
                I can only speak for myself, but it's due to the fact that having the roof open all the time significantly affects the realism. The roof at Rogers Centre is always closed until at least late-April. Freezing cold temperatures at Rogers Centre are as realistic as rain at Tropicana Field. It's jarring aspects like this that overshadow the game's other features. If I can't enjoy playing at my favourite team's ballpark, there's simply no point in me buying the game.

                A closed roof is an essential feature at Rogers Centre. It affects both the atmosphere and gameplay (the ball tends to carry better with the roof closed). In real life the Rogers Centre roof is closed about 40% of the time. Imagine Red Sox fans having to play 40% of their games at Fenway Park without the green monster. That's what it's like to play without a roof at Rogers Centre.

                At some ballparks the roof is closed around 70% of the time. By not including a closed roof in those parks, SCEA has basically gotten them flat-out wrong. We're past the days of Hardball 3 and FPS: Baseball '94 where we would only get some of the major league ballparks in the base game. There's simply no excuse for not including closed-roof versions of the six major league ballparks that have retractable roofs, particularly with the game on next generation consoles. The lack of closed-roof versions of these parks is a glaring omission on the part of SCEA, and it's simply unacceptable that it hasn't been remedied to this point. I've purchased every version of this game since 2009, but like the other poster, I will not buy this game again until retractable roof stadiums are included. If SCEA won't make the effort to get my favourite team's stadium right after all these years, I see no reason to give them any more of my money.

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                • kmoser
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1398

                  #68
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                  Originally posted by RyanLaFalce
                  I agree. What would make it a "pass" for me is if it looked like a port of the PS3 version. I doubt that is the case though and it will look beautiful.

                  I highly doubt it is a port of the ps3 version. I'm pretty sure their main focus is PS4 and PS3 is starting to be the least of their worries. That's what happens to every last gen game now.

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                  • RyanLaFalce
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2337

                    #69
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                    Originally posted by kmoser
                    I highly doubt it is a port of the ps3 version. I'm pretty sure their main focus is PS4 and PS3 is starting to be the least of their worries. That's what happens to every last gen game now.
                    I know, but that's just how MLB '14 felt.

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                    • kmoser
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1398

                      #70
                      MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled F...

                      Originally posted by RyanLaFalce
                      I know, but that's just how MLB '14 felt.

                      Well it was it's PS4 debut so they didn't have all the time they do now to work on it. NBA 2k14 was the same way, with just better animations and a different mode.
                      I bet MLB 15 will be pretty great!

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42509

                        #71
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                        Originally posted by nemesis04
                        You think the tag system is user inputted? I was thinking of it as a cleaned up system that automatically applied the appropriate types of tags depending on the situation.
                        In that case, I never had a beef with the tags before. Well, except one time but I think it was an AI issue really.

                        Maybe if the ball can be kicked out, you can cancel a tag for the sake of a throw elsewhere, or something else, I was just figuring that this isn't as "gameplay related" as I would have expected.

                        Don't need user-inputted tags though, I just didn't think much of tags problematically before, so I'm just speculating on what other kinds of user control we might have.
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                        • RyanLaFalce
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 2337

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled F...

                          Originally posted by kmoser
                          Well it was it's PS4 debut so they didn't have all the time they do now to work on it. NBA 2k14 was the same way, with just better animations and a different mode.
                          I bet MLB 15 will be pretty great!
                          I agree with you. I'm ready to dive into the overhauled Franchise mode and take on the world with the Yankees without Jeter!

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                          • woody2goody
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 2097

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                            I agree about closed rooves surely not being too difficult to do. It's not a majorly annoying thing for me though, in fact the thing I'm more bothered about is the commentary.

                            There's not a lot wrong with what's already in The Show, but more organic delivery is needed for the game to move forward.

                            Likewise load times don't bother me when playing a full game, because it's one minute or less of loading for an hour plus of baseball. It's like GTA - takes over a minute to load but once it has it doesn't for the rest of the game.
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                            • Sip_16
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 351

                              #74
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                              Originally posted by PitholeCreek
                              I can only speak for myself, but it's due to the fact that having the roof open all the time significantly affects the realism. The roof at Rogers Centre is always closed until at least late-April. Freezing cold temperatures at Rogers Centre are as realistic as rain at Tropicana Field. It's jarring aspects like this that overshadow the game's other features. If I can't enjoy playing at my favourite team's ballpark, there's simply no point in me buying the game.

                              A closed roof is an essential feature at Rogers Centre. It affects both the atmosphere and gameplay (the ball tends to carry better with the roof closed). In real life the Rogers Centre roof is closed about 40% of the time. Imagine Red Sox fans having to play 40% of their games at Fenway Park without the green monster. That's what it's like to play without a roof at Rogers Centre.

                              At some ballparks the roof is closed around 70% of the time. By not including a closed roof in those parks, SCEA has basically gotten them flat-out wrong. We're past the days of Hardball 3 and FPS: Baseball '94 where we would only get some of the major league ballparks in the base game. There's simply no excuse for not including closed-roof versions of the six major league ballparks that have retractable roofs, particularly with the game on next generation consoles. The lack of closed-roof versions of these parks is a glaring omission on the part of SCEA, and it's simply unacceptable that it hasn't been remedied to this point. I've purchased every version of this game since 2009, but like the other poster, I will not buy this game again until retractable roof stadiums are included. If SCEA won't make the effort to get my favourite team's stadium right after all these years, I see no reason to give them any more of my money.
                              I understand what a closed roof at the Rogers Centre compared to an open roof can affect the game, I have been there for both occasions. All i was saying is I don't get how its a make or break thats all.

                              In all fairness, in any ball game I have played i have never noticed (others could have different experiences) a difference no matter what field you play in, minus distances leading to less HR's for example. Even if the roof was closed, i just dont think it would play any different then with it open. (again, just my opinion)

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                              • thaSLAB
                                [Player 1]
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4495

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Has New Human IK Engine, Tag System, Commentary, Overhauled Franc

                                Originally posted by PitholeCreek
                                I can only speak for myself, but it's due to the fact that having the roof open all the time significantly affects the realism. The roof at Rogers Centre is always closed until at least late-April. Freezing cold temperatures at Rogers Centre are as realistic as rain at Tropicana Field. It's jarring aspects like this that overshadow the game's other features. If I can't enjoy playing at my favourite team's ballpark, there's simply no point in me buying the game.

                                A closed roof is an essential feature at Rogers Centre. It affects both the atmosphere and gameplay (the ball tends to carry better with the roof closed). In real life the Rogers Centre roof is closed about 40% of the time. Imagine Red Sox fans having to play 40% of their games at Fenway Park without the green monster. That's what it's like to play without a roof at Rogers Centre.

                                At some ballparks the roof is closed around 70% of the time. By not including a closed roof in those parks, SCEA has basically gotten them flat-out wrong. We're past the days of Hardball 3 and FPS: Baseball '94 where we would only get some of the major league ballparks in the base game. There's simply no excuse for not including closed-roof versions of the six major league ballparks that have retractable roofs, particularly with the game on next generation consoles. The lack of closed-roof versions of these parks is a glaring omission on the part of SCEA, and it's simply unacceptable that it hasn't been remedied to this point. I've purchased every version of this game since 2009, but like the other poster, I will not buy this game again until retractable roof stadiums are included. If SCEA won't make the effort to get my favourite team's stadium right after all these years, I see no reason to give them any more of my money.
                                So by that report, only Miami, Houston and Arizona have their roof closed >50% (majority) of the time?

                                As a Houston resident, that number seems inflated but alas. There was even a running joke about the previous owner Drayton McLane being so cheap with cooling costs, that that's why the roof was was always open.

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