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  • ShowTyme15
    LADetermined
    • Jan 2004
    • 11853

    #1036
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

    Originally posted by Lisac
    With the game coming out almost a month later than normal does anyone know if they switched the roster cut off date?
    Probably not. We are either past the cut-off date or close to it at this point. It's usually the end of January beginning of February.

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    • rjackson
      MVP
      • Apr 2005
      • 1661

      #1037
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

      Man, I just found the post with B Ma explaining the new pitch dynamics and woot woot!!! It really is going to feel like you are breaking one off when you toss out an uncle charlie. B Ma is my hero, using saber/physics research and applying it to the game!

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      • breakfastcat
        MVP
        • Jan 2013
        • 1018

        #1038
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

        Originally posted by rjackson
        Man, I just found the post with B Ma explaining the new pitch dynamics and woot woot!!! It really is going to feel like you are breaking one off when you toss out an uncle charlie. B Ma is my hero, using saber/physics research and applying it to the game!
        Could you link me to that post? I'm very interested.

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        • Ghost Of The Year
          Sweet Emotion.
          • Mar 2014
          • 6343

          #1039
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet

          Originally posted by rjackson
          Man, I just found the post with B Ma explaining the new pitch dynamics and woot woot!!! It really is going to feel like you are breaking one off when you toss out an uncle charlie. B Ma is my hero, using saber/physics research and applying it to the game!
          Most of the changes below are based on real life stats and research..

          All pitches now vary their break axis for real. For example, a Curveball sometimes will spin 12-6 O’Clock or 10-4 O’Clock. A 12-6 Curveball will sometimes spin 1-7 O’Clock or 11-5 O’Clock. Even a 4-seam will do this, but the OSD won’t display it because the 4-seam is considered the “reference pitch” that is compared to by default. It’s subtle but definitely noticeable in testing. Real life pitches vary more than this , but there’s design and playability drawbacks to varying too much. There are some complications from this change, some are addressed while others aren’t critical and still worth keeping.

          Pitch break magnitudes vary slightly more too. I.e. a 12 inch break might vary between 10.5-13.5 inches between throws before any other factors are applied.

          4-Seam Fastballs spin at 11 O-Clock (1 O-Clock from pitcher’s perspective) and tail in on a same handed hitter. If there’s good data on arm slots, we can vary this from 9-12. So a side-arm pitcher would have his 4-Seam move more like a sinker even though it’s rolling 4-seams, has the accuracy bonus of a 4-seam, etc.. We already have the rule that side-arm pitchers overthrow/underthrow side-ways, but the data needs to be comprehensively set and QA’d before we start using it for armslot/spinaxis.

          Curveballs are much easier to see and recognize earlier. Changeups and sliders should be slightly easier to read. 2-seams and sinkers sink more than before. Higher break pitchers tail at a lower axis (same is true for slider and cutter).

          Most of the spin and break formulas have been tuned based on the latest research I know of. For example based on Trackman, the best curveball pitcher is about 3000 rpm whereas the average is 2450. So I increased curveball spin accordingly overall, but reduced the gap between the best and average pitcher to +/- 22% rather than +/- 33% which is kind of exaggerated. That’s still a big difference because our OSD can only show ½ the curveball movement (it might break 2 feet but we’ll only show 1 foot, otherwise you can’t even aim it). Instead of exaggerating the OSD’s break for breaking pitches, instead I’ll try to show a realistic break (in the case of CB, scaled by 1/2x) and let the formulas do the work of differentiating effectiveness.

          2450 rpm translates to 41 rotations per second, which is about 20 rotations to the plate for a curveball. A fastball is on average 2200 rpm, about 14 rotations to the plate (depending on speed). I checked these numbers against some other sources and they’re not far off, and probably more definitive coming from Trackman which has comprehensive data using professional grade equipment. In any case the numbers happen to be a potential improvement because of their implications on pitch recognition.
          I'd definitely like to see RussellSCEA recruit B Ma to post more stuff like this to OS.
          T-BONE.

          Talking about things nobody cares.

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          • Russell_SCEA
            SCEA Community Manager
            • May 2005
            • 4161

            #1040
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet

            Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
            I'd definitely like to see RussellSCEA recruit B Ma to post more stuff like this to OS.
            He's a very busy man, but who knows what the future holds.

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            • Ghost Of The Year
              Sweet Emotion.
              • Mar 2014
              • 6343

              #1041
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

              Originally posted by breakfastcat
              Could you link me to that post? I'm very interested.
              Post 57, this thread
              T-BONE.

              Talking about things nobody cares.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52694

                #1042
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet

                Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                He's a very busy man, but who knows what the future holds.
                B Ma posts have me like....

                Then I play the game and am like....
                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                • aguero90
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 1252

                  #1043
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                  Do you guys play with pitch speed all the way up? It's a must for me, makes it feel very realistic.
                  1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #1044
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                    Originally posted by sxaalex
                    I was hoping to get a answer i guess not.
                    Haha...sorry....I just got busy.

                    I guess it should be soon.......time always runs tight.......
                    I'm so busy with work this year(that's why I couldn't make CD this time around...)...that I'm likely taking a much smaller role in development of the set.
                    RidinDwnKingsley is taking lead this year.
                    I have to PM him and get things set up.
                    It's really all about the individual team editors anyway now....I just put their work together.

                    M.K.
                    Knight165
                    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                    • rjackson
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1661

                      #1045
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                      Originally posted by aguero90
                      Do you guys play with pitch speed all the way up? It's a must for me, makes it feel very realistic.
                      I see fine, but I like to be able to pull a FB if I am looking for it. So, no!

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                      • aguero90
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1252

                        #1046
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                        Not to sound like a bragger, but how on earth do I do so well then! hahahaha! I pull plenty, as a matter of fact, sometimes, I wish pitch speed can be put even higher!
                        1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52694

                          #1047
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                          Originally posted by aguero90
                          Do you guys play with pitch speed all the way up? It's a must for me, makes it feel very realistic.
                          No I play with everything at default.
                          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                          Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                          • Flaxseed Oil
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1160

                            #1048
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                            Originally posted by rjackson
                            I see fine, but I like to be able to pull a FB if I am looking for it. So, no!
                            I actually turn the pitch speed down 2 notches and turn the power up one notch. Thats the only adjustments I make to sliders and I usually get really realistic results. Some close games, some blowouts. Sometimes I don't hit any HR, sometimes I hit 3. With the regular sliders, sometimes I will go 3 games without any HR.

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                            • rjackson
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1661

                              #1049
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                              I go to bp with chapman and try to jump on fastballs. I go up or down based on my reaction time. If I am behind on read and react but pulling FBs when sitting on them, then I got it right.

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                              • seanjeezy
                                The Future
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3347

                                #1050
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                                Originally posted by Knight165
                                Haha...sorry....I just got busy.

                                I guess it should be soon.......time always runs tight.......
                                I'm so busy with work this year(that's why I couldn't make CD this time around...)...that I'm likely taking a much smaller role in development of the set.
                                RidinDwnKingsley is taking lead this year.
                                I have to PM him and get things set up.
                                It's really all about the individual team editors anyway now....I just put their work together.

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
                                Ridin's been pulling your share for the last couple of years so I guess its business as usual!

                                Spoiler
                                Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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