Analog hitting changed or not?

[sydrogerdavid]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

Like you guys, I thought there was an analog, timing-only option to go with directional hitting.

I will be disappointed if the the pure analog swing is not in the game anymore.

[ScouserHUN]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

Like you guys, I thought there was an analog, timing-only option to go with directional hitting.

I will be disappointed if the the pure analog swing is not in the game anymore.

Yes, totally bad decision to remove Pure Analog & Zone Analog hitting from the game. Never tried any other method, don't know how I could get used to a new system.

[HypoLuxa13]

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Yes, totally bad decision to remove Pure Analog & Zone Analog hitting from the game. Never tried any other method, don't know how I could get used to a new system.

I think you guys are extrapolating more than you need to. From watching the stream yesterday, I did not get the impression that the normal analog swing was removed, just that they added other analog options to the other swing mechanics. I can't remember any gameplay/control scheme mechanic that was ever removed from an MLB The Show game when they added a control option for the same action. Hitting, fielding, baserunning, throwing... all maintained the original options even after new options were added. I'm thinking it is the same in this case.

[ScouserHUN]

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I think you guys are extrapolating more than you need to. From watching the stream yesterday, I did not get the impression that the normal analog swing was removed, just that they added other analog options to the other swing mechanics. I can't remember any gameplay/control scheme mechanic that was ever removed from an MLB The Show game when they added a control option for the same action. Hitting, fielding, baserunning, throwing... all maintained the original options even after new options were added. I'm thinking it is the same in this case.

Maybe, but nemesis04 was at the Community Day, and he said it was removed from the game... if he says so, I'm in doubt...

[HypoLuxa13]

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Maybe, but nemesis04 was at the Community Day, and he said it was removed from the game... if he says so, I'm in doubt...

Well, perhaps. At least not available in the version he was playing. Still a month or so before they go Gold I'm guessing, hopefully it makes it back in for the final build.

[TheFlamingWeazel]

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Analog hitting is ruined , first time ever I have been disappointed by the show, I don't understand how this analog systems was even thought to be put into the game....It sounds too simplistic, and makes no sense, why would swinging to the left = contact? It makes no sense and is not intuitive at all. BY instinct if a pitch is outside i'll swing that way, only to be using a contact swing when I dont' want to. Dumbed down and makes no sense.

I cannot believe they did this.

[nemesis04]

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Yes, totally bad decision to remove Pure Analog & Zone Analog hitting from the game. Never tried any other method, don't know how I could get used to a new system.

You can do zone with analog but the analog portion will be the new method.

Plus, the stride slider was removed from the game, so there is more evidence that the original method is not in.

[ryanmc564]

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This is bad news then... It is going to be a real pain in the *** to get used to the new system.

2 years ago I remember Ramone saying to be proud of having all the control options from past years. He also said, that they always tried to add to it and not taking away options.

For me, this is a letdown

2k did this the last few years and it actually isn't that hard to get used to and in my opinion gives you more control of your at bats. you might be surprised on how well it actually works.

[DJ]

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As someone that's used Analog on-and-off since it was introduced in '11, I'm happy with the changes. Being able to use Analog while still being set to Timing is a great addition; one of the things that used to kill me (this is user-error) is that I tended to push the R-stick up and to the left so I'd get burned on pitches to the opposite corner of the plate.

Now I can use the mechanic and know that the player ratings will dictate where the PCI winds up.

Nem, were any changes made to Analog throwing or pitching?

[rjackson]

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The new system might work for some but it takes away the realism and immersion for me. I could live with just flicking up for a contact swing where it is all about making contact. It will not feel right not performing a load prior to a normal swing - that load is part of the swing itself. I never felt they got the stride timing right and I opened that up all the way on the slider to counteract all the different swing styles (and differing stride times associated with them).

[Madden's Jowels]

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This just seems like something that didn't need to be changed. I loved the Pure Analog swing mechanic and have used it exclusively since I started playing The Show.

It seems like they just said "how can we make the Pure Analog swing mechanic easier and less challenging/rewarding for the user? I know, let's get rid of the stride!"

[Russell_SCEA]

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This just seems like something that didn't need to be changed. I loved the Pure Analog swing mechanic and have used it exclusively since I started playing The Show.

It seems like they just said "how can we make the Pure Analog swing mechanic easier and less challenging/rewarding for the user? I know, let's get rid of the stride!"

No we felt it needed to be simplified. The user no longer has to worry about the batters stride timing anymore. Pushing up on the stick is as simple as pressing down on X and it arguably has a better feel to it. Analog hitting in it's state before the change was also not used by allot of users so a change was warranted.

Some people will like the change and some won't. We believe the former will out weigh the latter.

[Madden's Jowels]

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No we felt it needed to be simplified. The user no longer has to worry about the batters stride timing anymore. Pushing up on the stick is as simple as pressing down on X and it arguably has a better feel to it. Analog hitting in it's state before the change was also not used by allot of users so a change was warranted.

Some people will like the change and some won't. We believe the former will out weigh the latter.

I think what myself and the others who are disappointed in the change are arguing is, we don't want it simplified. The stride timing was what made Analog fun and different from every other hitting option. It was more challenging than using Timing precisely because of the stride timing.

I understand you guys have to make tough decisions based on popular demand, that's not something I envy. But maybe if we're lucky, by making threads like these, you'll see how many people liked it the old way, and throw us a bone and leave the old method in the game as an option, or maybe consider putting it back into 16. You definitely said something last year about how you guys pride yourselves on never removing options, only adding to them.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

No we felt it needed to be simplified. The user no longer has to worry about the batters stride timing anymore. Pushing up on the stick is as simple as pressing down on X and it arguably has a better feel to it. Analog hitting in it's state before the change was also not used by allot of users so a change was warranted.

Some people will like the change and some won't. We believe the former will out weigh the latter.

Is there something prohibitive in programming or resources that makes keeping both options (or a "stride timing" toggle of some sort) an unreasonable request?

I ask because you guys usually add options rather than replacing or retooling like in this case, so I am curious as to why that philosophy changes here.

[Russell_SCEA]

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I think what myself and the others who are disappointed in the change are arguing is, we don't want it simplified. The stride timing was what made Analog fun and different from every other hitting option. It was more challenging than using Timing precisely because of the stride timing.

I understand you guys have to make tough decisions based on popular demand, that's not something I envy. But maybe if we're lucky, by making threads like these, you'll see how many people liked it the old way, and throw us a bone and leave the old method in the game as an option, or maybe consider putting it back into 16. You definitely said something last year about how you guys pride yourselves on never removing options, only adding to them.

While there are a handful of people on OS who might not like it there could be 300k who love the change that don't post here. See the predicament? We can't judge the popularity of something good or bad entirely by what people post on forums because we are talking about a very very small % of the user base that's vocal.