Analog hitting changed or not?

[jr86]

Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

Thank you for the honest answer Ramone, you know I always trust you, but now I fear for this change.

Your words are in my mind from 2 years back, when you said you pride yourselfs for leaving in the game every old control interface and just always adding to it. Don't know why it would be hard to leave in the old system and give the others new options.

If you have a Chinese restaurant you don't take away the eating sticks because only a minority of people uses it. You have to stay authentic and give people all the options they used to.

Of course I'll still buy the game no matter what, but if it's still possible to re-add it, please consider doing so. It's important for a few.



Thank you!

Sorry my friend but the way you know analog hitting is gone.
I think your analogy with the chopsticks is not quite true as they have not removed anything only modified it.
Obviously from their research they found that not many people used analog in its current form so chose to make it easier to appeal to more people because after all more sales=more $$$$.

[@legendm0de]

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I was absolutely disgusted by that when I heard it. I'm in denial about it honestly, and haven't looked into it yet. From what I heard in the live stream, he said, analog control is now only up flick for swings, and the down-up control is power hitting. He mentioned one other thing about it.

That leaves me to assume, stride is no longer even apart of the swing anymore if down-up only activates a Power Swing? That is devastating for me if true. The stride was a very important part of the game for me last year, I enjoyed controlling every player it made them all feel different. I even activated the stride difficulty to its highest point 10, in the sliders.

Among the information that dissapoints, this breaks the line so much it is enough reason to cancel a preorder even at $40 like mine. Besides, what is so Hard about hitting SQUARE before you decide to swing? or CIRCLE? As I said, I'm still in denial I think there is just some massive misunderstanding that happened which I why i never even bothered to bring it up before.

[@legendm0de]

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No we felt it needed to be simplified. The user no longer has to worry about the batters stride timing anymore. Pushing up on the stick is as simple as pressing down on X and it arguably has a better feel to it. Analog hitting in it's state before the change was also not used by allot of users so a change was warranted.

Some people will like the change and some won't. We believe the former will out weigh the latter.

Excuse me? That's an illogical approach to developing the game, I would hope enough players would put their foot down and ignore this series. It's highly unimpressive logic. That same approach was given for removing natural pace from the game, and forcing all users to ignore the issue and play through auto skipped portions of the game. Still no indication has been made about a gesture to rectify that situation but those annoyed by it try were willing to be trampled on and cope with it to live on what the game does offer. That's not how we should approach our spending of $60. At this point, I hope your team of decision makers will somehow be made to realize making decisions this way is only going to hurt. This has given no choice for players affected but to put their foot down and ignore the game. Others not well enough researched are in store for a massive dissapointment and they will react as well. I don't know where this data is being read from, but it's not my problem anymore we'll just have to see when your team will come around and stop being obnoxious.

[nemesis04]

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How will check swings work now?

You let go on the stick before the swing is initiated when pushing up.

[Strings74]

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Excuse me? That's an illogical approach to developing the game, I would hope enough players would put their foot down and ignore this series. It's highly unimpressive logic. That same approach was given for removing natural pace from the game, and forcing all users to ignore the issue and play through auto skipped portions of the game. Still no indication has been made about a gesture to rectify that situation but those annoyed by it try were willing to be trampled on and cope with it to live on what the game does offer. That's not how we should approach our spending of $60. At this point, I hope your team of decision makers will somehow be made to realize making decisions this way is only going to hurt. This has given no choice for players affected but to put their foot down and ignore the game. Others not well enough researched are in store for a massive dissapointment and they will react as well. I don't know where this data is being read from, but it's not my problem anymore we'll just have to see when your team will come around and stop being obnoxious.

Oh brother.

[saturn2187]

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Just want to put in my two cents here and say I don't like the change either. It makes it too simplified. In addition to the stride, you also had to aim your analog stick either left or right depending on pitch location. Now that aiming component is gone as well. This is just as easy as timing now, except that it uses the analog stick instead of a button. All skill in placing the PCI is removed.

[ryanmc564]

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Excuse me? That's an illogical approach to developing the game, I would hope enough players would put their foot down and ignore this series. It's highly unimpressive logic. That same approach was given for removing natural pace from the game, and forcing all users to ignore the issue and play through auto skipped portions of the game. Still no indication has been made about a gesture to rectify that situation but those annoyed by it try were willing to be trampled on and cope with it to live on what the game does offer. That's not how we should approach our spending of $60. At this point, I hope your team of decision makers will somehow be made to realize making decisions this way is only going to hurt. This has given no choice for players affected but to put their foot down and ignore the game. Others not well enough researched are in store for a massive dissapointment and they will react as well. I don't know where this data is being read from, but it's not my problem anymore we'll just have to see when your team will come around and stop being obnoxious.

Clearly Ramone and Crew not only pissed in this dude's Wheaties but also took a fat dump in it as well and called it the prize inside.

[Jgainsey]

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I have been a huge fan of pure analog hitting since it was introduced a few years back.

I'm really disappointed that it was removed. For me, it was a very intuitive hitting mechanic, and it really nailed the feeling of timing and rhythm that goes in to picking up a baseball out of a pitcher's hand and then swinging. Plus, check swings seemed so natural and responsive... I loved it.

And while it was easy enough as a mechanic to pick up, it definitely took some time to master. I would find myself going into frustrating slumps with my "swing", sometimes going an entire week where I would struggle to keep my swing straight. There would be other instances where I would lose my stride timing, or if I went too long with out playing The Show I would have trouble catching up to fastballs when I returned.

Personally, those were all things that made The Show feel more like real baseball. The ebb and flow of slumps and hot streaks are at the very essence of the sport, and it's sad to see something that added to that feeling being removed from the game.

Although, I will say that the new analog hitting does sound intriguing, and I'll definitely be looking forward to trying that out...

I just find it a little strange that a development team which has prided themselves on keeping as many features in the game as possible would completely remove a hitting mechanic that they've been pimping so hard in recent years.

I believe them that it probably isn't the most popular mechanic in the game. A quick scan of the slider forum here will show you that, but it's still a strange and disappointing move.

I dunno, maybe the old pure analog hitting was somehow at odds with something new and more complex that they were trying to introduce to the overall hitting system/physics...?

[Bobhead]

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Excuse me? That's an illogical approach to developing the game, I would hope enough players would put their foot down and ignore this series. It's highly unimpressive logic. That same approach was given for removing natural pace from the game, and forcing all users to ignore the issue and play through auto skipped portions of the game. Still no indication has been made about a gesture to rectify that situation but those annoyed by it try were willing to be trampled on and cope with it to live on what the game does offer. That's not how we should approach our spending of $60. At this point, I hope your team of decision makers will somehow be made to realize making decisions this way is only going to hurt. This has given no choice for players affected but to put their foot down and ignore the game. Others not well enough researched are in store for a massive dissapointment and they will react as well. I don't know where this data is being read from, but it's not my problem anymore we'll just have to see when your team will come around and stop being obnoxious.

This must be the part where I post a video clip of Russell Westbrook during a particular post-game interview.

[Bobhead]

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Anyway, I empathize with those who liked striding, but I personally welcome the change. It makes me excited to try Zone Plus Analog Minus Stride. I was pretty vocal here about requesting that feature the year before it came out. It kinda bugs me how little I've used it since. But striding with my right hand and PCI-ing with my left hand, at the same time, was literally a headache.

[Tengo Juego]

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I'm having a hard time being upset without being able to try out the new system. Definitely bummed that the previous mechanic couldn't remain an option.

I dunno, maybe the old hitting pure analog hitting was somehow at odds with something new and more complex that were trying to introduce to the overall hitting system/physics...?

Logical conclusion. Still disappointing, however.

[@legendm0de]

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Clearly Ramone and Crew not only pissed in this dude's Wheaties but also took a fat dump in it as well and called it the prize inside.

Yeah, well I'm glad your among the ones not affected by the changes. Other players like myself have basically had the game snatched out of their hands and given to players who like it "easier" (edit- and faster). So that's basically the same thing as your figurative example.

Anyhow everyone excuse me, for I didn't recognize that when a deity representative from the grand old game company posts something ridiculous they were above criticism.

[DKTF]

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Just want to put in my two cents here and say I don't like the change either. It makes it too simplified. In addition to the stride, you also had to aim your analog stick either left or right depending on pitch location. Now that aiming component is gone as well. This is just as easy as timing now, except that it uses the analog stick instead of a button. All skill in placing the PCI is removed.

MMM the aim the stick is the same has it has always been. You use the right stick to swing and the left stick to aim your swing analog plus zone.

[OhioCub]

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At first I was a lil bummed about this myself but then I realized, up until 2 strikes, most MLB hitters are trying to hit the ball as hard as they can and get good solid contact, ie power swings. Prior to 2 strikes I'll just power swing with everyone, then at 2 strikes, if I get a pitch right in the zone I'll flick up, if it's borderline I'll flick left or right depending on which side of the plate the pitch is bordering on. Thinking of it that way makes it seem not quite so bad, at least not for me.

[Stolm]

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MMM the aim the stick is the same has it has always been. You use the right stick to swing and the left stick to aim your swing analog plus zone.

Ya I don't remember hearing the PCI aiming was gone at all. I hope it's not. They can't have butchered the Zone + Analog that bad?

If it is, the best hitting option has been reduced to the worst in 1 year.