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  • bukktown
    MVP
    • Jan 2007
    • 3257

    #61
    Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

    Originally posted by DKTF
    MMM the aim the stick is the same has it has always been. You use the right stick to swing and the left stick to aim your swing analog plus zone.
    You are talking about zone plus analog. He is talking about pure analog.
    Pure analog had inside/outside aiming with the right stick. Pushing the stick up-left, up, or up-right was how you aimed. Now pure analog is only timing.

    Since they now give us the option to choose input type, what is the difference between using the new pure analog and using timing with input mode set to analog?

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    • Odaddi66
      Rookie
      • Nov 2013
      • 8

      #62
      Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

      I almost never post on here, cuz all my questions and wishes be added or answered...... But I believe this change was not warranted or needed and the fact that so many people are annoyed by it, some that post here and some that don't, (including myself) proves that it is used a lot and is the most "realistic" of the hitting options, maybe they should try to put it back as an off/on option before release or a "patch"...... Maybe???

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      • Sip_16
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 351

        #63
        Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

        I assume this has been answered before but I have always used pure analog so i dont really know what timing or zone is. I haven't ever had to look at it but I am curious what the make up of the other hitting options are, could someone explain?

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        • Bobhead
          Pro
          • Mar 2011
          • 4926

          #64
          Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

          Originally posted by bukktown
          You are talking about zone plus analog. He is talking about pure analog.
          Pure analog had inside/outside aiming with the right stick. Pushing the stick up-left, up, or up-right was how you aimed. Now pure analog is only timing.

          Since they now give us the option to choose input type, what is the difference between using the new pure analog and using timing with input mode set to analog?
          I dont think Pure Analog is only Timing now? iirc you have two options Timing with Analog, and "Pure Analog" which still includes the tilting right-ish and left-ish depending on the pitch location.

          At least that is how I understood the Twitch thingamajig. Russell said something about Pure Analog being a separate option from simply swinging with the analog stick.

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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #65
            Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

            Originally posted by Bobhead
            I dont think Pure Analog is only Timing now? iirc you have two options Timing with Analog, and "Pure Analog" which still includes the tilting right-ish and left-ish depending on the pitch location.

            At least that is how I understood the Twitch thingamajig. Russell said something about Pure Analog being a separate option from simply swinging with the analog stick.
            For simplicity sake let's call it just analog. Basically analog has been made an input option for zone and timing. So out of those two choices you use either buttons or analog. The analog portion is performed the same way for either. I asked about the angle (in or out) on the way up for the timing option and was told it was just straight up.
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            • Bobhead
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 4926

              #66
              Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

              Originally posted by nemesis04
              For simplicity sake let's call it just analog. Basically analog has been made an input option for zone and timing. So out of those two choices you use either buttons or analog. The analog portion is performed the same way for either. I asked about the angle (in or out) on the way up for the timing option and was told it was just straight up.
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              • DJ
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2003
                • 17756

                #67
                Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                Originally posted by nemesis04
                For simplicity sake let's call it just analog. Basically analog has been made an input option for zone and timing. So out of those two choices you use either buttons or analog. The analog portion is performed the same way for either. I asked about the angle (in or out) on the way up for the timing option and was told it was just straight up.
                Right, so say you chose Timing and wanted Analog as your input option, you won't be penalized if your movement on the R-stick isn't straight (might be slightly to the left/right). Is this correct?
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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #68
                  Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                  Originally posted by @legendm0de
                  Yeah, well I'm glad your among the ones not affected by the changes. Other players like myself have basically had the game snatched out of their hands and given to players who like it "easier" (edit- and faster). So that's basically the same thing as your figurative example.

                  Anyhow everyone excuse me, for I didn't recognize that when a deity representative from the grand old game company posts something ridiculous they were above criticism.
                  I can agree and understand that losing the option the way you prefer is frustrating.


                  That however, is not an excuse to take pop shots at others with comments like this.

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #69
                    Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                    Originally posted by DJ
                    Right, so say you chose Timing and wanted Analog as your input option, you won't be penalized if your movement on the R-stick isn't straight (might be slightly to the left/right). Is this correct?
                    I did not see any penalty when I used it and I was not perfectly straight on the way up on some of them.
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                    • bukktown
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3257

                      #70
                      Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                      Originally posted by Bobhead
                      I dont think Pure Analog is only Timing now? iirc you have two options Timing with Analog, and "Pure Analog" which still includes the tilting right-ish and left-ish depending on the pitch location.

                      At least that is how I understood the Twitch thingamajig. Russell said something about Pure Analog being a separate option from simply swinging with the analog stick.
                      Ramone posted earlier in the thread confirming that Pure Analog was re-designed to be essentially timing only.

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                      • Nando12
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 77

                        #71
                        Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                        Just a pointless change. I don't know why they couldn't just create another option & called it "Analog Timing."

                        I have tried timing swinging & I always swing early. Doing the stride myself helped mentally prepare me to read the pitch & swing at the right time. Maybe that's just the way I'm wired because I used to play baseball but that method just made sense to me. Was on the fence on getting it this year, but I think I'm skipping now.

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                        • BrandH
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 268

                          #72
                          Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                          I am still confused. Is zone plus analog still an option so that you still have to aim with the left stick and then push the right stick left, up or down and up for contact, normal and power swings. Instead of preloading the swing type by pressing no button (normal), square (power) and circle (contact)? Or is the only option for zone hitting with buttons?

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #73
                            Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                            Originally posted by bukktown
                            Ramone posted earlier in the thread confirming that Pure Analog was re-designed to be essentially timing only.
                            What?

                            No we felt it needed to be simplified. The user no longer has to worry about the batters stride timing anymore. Pushing up on the stick is as simple as pressing down on X and it arguably has a better feel to it. Analog hitting in it's state before the change was also not used by allot of users so a change was warranted.

                            Some people will like the change and some won't. We believe the former will out weigh the latter.
                            He never said anything about the left/right aspect of Pure Analog being removed.

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                            • @legendm0de
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 763

                              #74
                              Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                              Originally posted by kehlis
                              I can agree and understand that losing the option the way you prefer is frustrating.


                              That however, is not an excuse to take pop shots at others with comments like this.
                              The only shots to take are at this game's administrative panel or whoever it is making these decisions, it's not a shot at the players. That's just the reality, they've stripped the aspects of the game specifically from us and followed up by verbally confirming that those players (we) are meaningless, because they only want their game to become more popular. Using zone, or pure analog or timing isn't an issue for me at all, I don't mind what control system any player uses.
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                              • nemesis04
                                RIP Ty My Buddy
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 13530

                                #75
                                Re: Analog hitting changed or not?

                                Originally posted by BrandH
                                I am still confused. Is zone plus analog still an option so that you still have to aim with the left stick and then push the right stick left, up or down and up for contact, normal and power swings. Instead of preloading the swing type by pressing no button (normal), square (power) and circle (contact)? Or is the only option for zone hitting with buttons?
                                I am reposting this:

                                For simplicity sake let's call it just analog. Basically analog has been made an input option for zone and timing. So out of those two choices you use either buttons or analog. The analog portion is performed the same way for either. I asked about the angle (in or out) on the way up for the timing option and was told it was just straight up.

                                The controls for analog for timing or zone are as follows:

                                Right stick up to swing
                                Right stick left or right for a contact swing
                                Right stick down then up for a power swing

                                You will no longer input a button command for your swing type with analog. This will all be done by the right stick now.
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