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  • A_Quiet_Pro
    Banned
    • Feb 2013
    • 2572

    #196
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

    Originally posted by tnixen
    You are correct I think.

    In MLB 14 The Show the clouds only moved after each pitch where as now in 15 they actually move in real time
    This made me think, are we going to see the clocks in the stadiums change time in real time too? Forever its been only after an at bat and an inning did the clocks and sky change.

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    • HouseKeepinItReal
      Banned
      • Apr 2012
      • 238

      #197
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

      the diving does not look fixed. the game looks great. the menus remind me of 13. it looks like they just alternate between themes while incorporating new features.

      I appreciate the explanations for missing aspects of the game.

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      • zbundy3
        Rookie
        • Jan 2005
        • 102

        #198
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

        Originally posted by P.A.D.
        Again, this is my point. I felt last year the CPU was screwed with bad calls just as much as the user. This year doesn't seem to be the case because, as Woodweaver clearly stated, the AI doesn't make wrong calls for the CPU, only for the user, which is why the Challenges system is implemented only for the user. How exactly is this fair or realistic at all?
        I just don't see a big deal in it personally. The only fielding calls that are different between the user and computer are the calls at first base, and this doesn't happen very often but watching all of the streams and it has only happened once. When it does happen you can challenge it. Everything else, the game doesn't know if you are a user or the computer.

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        • Go Yankees
          Banned
          • Feb 2015
          • 187

          #199
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

          I complained about the challenge system as have several others, it seems alot of the responses are rude and trying to make me and other people on here to be completely oblivious to facts, and the fact is the challenge system is broke, i like posting in these threads but its a huge turn off when OS elites attack just because they dont like someone's opinion, even though that opinion is fact, to anyone reading this that doesn't think the challenge system is broken.... prove its not completely broken, i have heard nothing but bandaid solutions to the problem, i hate to compare, but if a football game in 2k5 can have correct challenges then 10 years later it should be implemented in the show, i cant make video games but i know when something is broken. Thanks

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          • A_Quiet_Pro
            Banned
            • Feb 2013
            • 2572

            #200
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

            Originally posted by Go Yankees
            and the fact is the challenge system is broke,
            Not to be a jerk, but the game hasn't yet come out, you haven't played it yet, you haven't seen first hand how the challenge system works. Therefore you CAN NOT say it is broke, much less say it is FACT that it is broke. And if you think you can, that's just ignorance. (I'll admit, I am human and I will occasionally throw outlandish, unsubstantiated thoughts out there, but I can't allow myself or someone else to make judgement on something they've never experienced).
            Last edited by A_Quiet_Pro; 03-05-2015, 01:26 PM.

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            • HustlinOwl
              All Star
              • Mar 2004
              • 9713

              #201
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

              Originally posted by Go Yankees
              I complained about the challenge system as have several others, it seems alot of the responses are rude and trying to make me and other people on here to be completely oblivious to facts, and the fact is the challenge system is broke, i like posting in these threads but its a huge turn off when OS elites attack just because they dont like someone's opinion, even though that opinion is fact, to anyone reading this that doesn't think the challenge system is broken.... prove its not completely broken, i have heard nothing but bandaid solutions to the problem, i hate to compare, but if a football game in 2k5 can have correct challenges then 10 years later it should be implemented in the show, i cant make video games but i know when something is broken. Thanks
              so wait your telling me with these sports games that have replay/challenge systems that the AI gets an incorrect call??? I do not recall that, in my past experience from Madden that when a call was challenged by AI it would always be in their favor? Sounds like a "Poor design decision" (NOT BROKEN) so can we please stop with the broken talk when it clearly is a design decision.

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              • ShowTyme15
                LADetermined
                • Jan 2004
                • 11853

                #202
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                so wait your telling me with these sports games that have replay/challenge systems that the AI gets an incorrect call??? I do not recall that, in my past experience from Madden that when a call was challenged by AI it would always be in their favor? Sounds like a "Poor design decision" (NOT BROKEN) so can we please stop with the broken talk when it clearly is a design decision.
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                • ajblithe20
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 845

                  #203
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                  Originally posted by Go Yankees
                  I complained about the challenge system as have several others, it seems alot of the responses are rude and trying to make me and other people on here to be completely oblivious to facts, and the fact is the challenge system is broke, i like posting in these threads but its a huge turn off when OS elites attack just because they dont like someone's opinion, even though that opinion is fact, to anyone reading this that doesn't think the challenge system is broken.... prove its not completely broken, i have heard nothing but bandaid solutions to the problem, i hate to compare, but if a football game in 2k5 can have correct challenges then 10 years later it should be implemented in the show, i cant make video games but i know when something is broken. Thanks
                  I think challenges in sports video games are dumb to begin with. The point to challenges in real life are to correct calls that aren't made correctly because of human error. That's not necessary in video games. To me, challenge systems in video games are pointless, for everything other than presentation.

                  "OS elites attack." LOL, okay...

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                  • A_Quiet_Pro
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 2572

                    #204
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                    Originally posted by ajblithe20
                    I think challenges in sports video games are dumb to begin with. The point to challenges in real life are to correct calls that aren't made correctly because of human error. That's not necessary in video games. To me, challenge systems in video games are pointless, for everything other than presentation.

                    "OS elites attack." LOL, okay...
                    Excellent post. And very logical. Human error needs replay to make sure it's correct. Finite computer rules shouldn't need it.

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                    • Go Yankees
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 187

                      #205
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                      Madden is NOT the example i was using, Maddens challenge system is broken also, its Nfl 2k5 and yes both the user and computer makes challenges, both sides win some and lose some, and i know the challenge system is broken because only one side can challenge. C'mon guys!!

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                      • HustlinOwl
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 9713

                        #206
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                        Originally posted by Go Yankees
                        Madden is NOT the example i was using, Maddens challenge system is broken also, its Nfl 2k5 and yes both the user and computer makes challenges, both sides win some and lose some, and i know the challenge system is broken because only one side can challenge. C'mon guys!!
                        not broken because the side that can challenge can, now the decision to design/implement as they did thats a whole other issue.

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                        • thaSLAB
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                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4495

                          #207
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                          LOL, you damn OS elitist!

                          Originally posted by HouseKeepinItReal
                          the diving does not look fixed. the game looks great. the menus remind me of 13. it looks like they just alternate between themes while incorporating new features.

                          I appreciate the explanations for missing aspects of the game.
                          The menus are nothing alike between 13 and 15; stacked menu vs. tabbed tiles.

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                          • Go Yankees
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 187

                            #208
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                            Wow, ok, so the challenge system is not broken because one side can challenge? That doesn't compute in my brain, i understand that the implementation is wrong, did i miss a new rule in MLB that says you can only challenge at first base?

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                            • Padgoi
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1873

                              #209
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                              I didn't go as far as to say the challenge system is "broken," more so just poorly implemented. When something is broken, by definition it is not functioning as it was intended. This clearly is not the case as it seems to be functioning as intended, the problem is the implementation is poor to say the least. If the challenge system was going to be implemented in such a poor fashion, they honestly should've left it out this year and tried again when they had ample time to implement it realistically.
                              Or, as another user said earlier, just not implement it at all being that the challenge system in real life is to get calls right, which isn't an issue in video games.
                              Last edited by Padgoi; 03-06-2015, 12:20 PM.

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                              • ryanmc564
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 765

                                #210
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                                Originally posted by Go Yankees
                                Wow, ok, so the challenge system is not broken because one side can challenge? That doesn't compute in my brain, i understand that the implementation is wrong, did i miss a new rule in MLB that says you can only challenge at first base?

                                I would say its baby steps on why its only for 1st base this year, if SCEA could in the first year they would have it for all bases, but I'm sure that would take a lot of programming and animation caps that they didn't have time for. so for right now its just first base. Should they just left it out for this year until they had it for every base? that's up for debate. but just for them to include it in some form would please many here.

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