No rest for the weary on my team... maybe there should be.

[RogueHominid]

Re: No rest for the weary on my team... maybe there should be.

Is there an attribute that affects energy?
Durability maybe?

Yes, this is the attribute that affects how quickly the energy bar goes down.

Players with a durability rating over 90 tend to be able to play every day and get maybe one rest day per week.

Anything less than that and you can't play a week straight without dying.

[NimitsTexan]

Re: No rest for the weary on my team... maybe there should be.

Regardless, sitting down for 8 innings and then getting one pinch hit appearance should allow a player to regain stamina.

Agreed. Maybe not a full "day's worth," but at least some.

[Steven78]

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Yeah agreed. The stamina to position players has been a mess for years.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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So is it safe to say when the game prompts u to sit someone out should we just decline it and keep the player in?

[kehlis]

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So is it safe to say when the game prompts u to sit someone out should we just decline it and keep the player in?

These are all posts above in the thread that would lead me to believe that that isn't necessarily a true statement....

While very few players play all 162 games because of injury or they get a day off hear and there. Even if some on plays 162 games I am sure there are some games where they don't play all 9 innings because they are either up or down by a lot with like 3 innings left or something. So I don't know but if you sub guys out once in a while in like 6-7 inning that may help. While when a player is under 65% fatigue I think there ratings drop by like 10 % or something and I know it increases the changes of getting injured.

I forget what percentage (65% I think) the players attributes take a hit as does his durability.

What's the drawback of playing a guy that has very low energy?

They take a hot to attributes and are more likely to get injured

Based on what I've read on these OS boards, players see a decrease to attributes, and an increased chance of injury.

[geisterhome]

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What about implementing a stamina slider also for batters?

[BeatArmy]

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I love the fact that there is a mechanism that requires you to use other players on your team. Otherwise it's RBI Baseball. You cannot squeeeeee about players wearing Franklin gloves and praising realism and then complain that you don't get 9 guys with 162 GP.

I dislike that it's so drastic. Players get days off, yes. Hurdle in PIT gives players regularly scheduled days off (see Cutch the other day). Resting a player for a day should fill up their energy to full and even a PH appearance shouldn't do anything.

This all being said, give your guys regular time off and replace them in blowouts. Empty your bench in the 7th or 8th if you've got a monster lead and ESPECIALLY your star players. Freeman, Yelich, Seager and Springer always are out if I"m up big.

[eastcoast49ers]

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Cal Ripken would be dead in MLB the Show

[IgotSyphillis]

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Are you already playing on Legend difficulty? If not, and you want to be a top team, why not just bump it up a notch so you don't feel like you are being unfair. As for the stamina thing, I've noticed it affects players in some ways right off the bat. Just started a Pirates franchise, first game Marte has a 95 in speed. 2nd game has a 94. 3rd game, 93. And so on. I'm gonna assume other attributes are affected also.

[IgotSyphillis]

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And I somehow posted on the wrong thread so the first part of that makes no sense. I don't even know how that happened.

[JHedges2]

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Agreed that there are def. issues with stamina. I feel like I have to sit everyone every 4-5 games.

I get guys needing days off, but I feel like most everyone could go 2 weeks or so without having 'zero' energy.

Frustrating indeed.

[CaseIH]

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One of the things I love the most about The Show, or any sports game for that matter, is managing lineups. In the NHL series for some reason EA has decided year after year not to include goalie fatigue, which drives me nuts. MLB The Show it seems take to the opposite end of this spectrum. At least in my opinion.

It's potentially no issue at all and essentially my question for those who know, is how much does fatigue factor into a players ability in a game or his susceptibility of getting injured? It seems that once you're a week or two into the season at least one of your every-day starters is "needing a rest."

I totally get that no one plays 162 games per year anymore, but Starlin Castro for example has played every game in real life but he's practically out of "energy" for me two and a half weeks into my season in The Show. Given, the Cubs in real life have had a few rain outs but I still feel it's completely reasonable that he still would have played every inning of every game.

What happens when a player's energy bar drops all the way down and you still play him?

This has been a issue since I started playing this game in 09. I have always said they need a stamina rating and a durability rating, that way guys that do play everyday will. Then take a guy that does play most days but also has a tendency to get hurt would have a high stamina but low durability rating. The way SCEA has it now mkes it impossible to replicate games played for players who play every game.

[KBLover]

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It's potentially no issue at all and essentially my question for those who know, is how much does fatigue factor into a players ability in a game or his susceptibility of getting injured? It seems that once you're a week or two into the season at least one of your every-day starters is "needing a rest."

What happens when a player's energy bar drops all the way down and you still play him?

My personal answer for the first is "not enough". I have injury slider maxed and play a lot of guys (especially if they are above average and a lot of them want out at once) even when tired and it doesn't seem to matter much injury-wise. I'm always the team with the least injuries, no matter how much I abuse my position players...or my pitchers for that matter, unless I do random injuries to my guys myself.

As far as what happens, I presume they lose ratings/ability and should be getting more injury prone.

What's also fascinating is I never see position guys go all the way down to having no energy. It goes down to a minimum and will sit there until rested, but never completely bottom out.

[Maxil]

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yeah on my royals season I've hit a pretty bad spot. I seem to get multiple extra inning games at the start of a long stretch and have to go into panic mode. At the moment all bench players are starting every game as I've gotten into a rotation type pickle with keeping my starting lineup from hitting rock bottom stamina. Thankfully with the DH I can switch 3b and 1b over to him to help them recover a little bit when they are the DH, and my bench SS can cover 2nd and SS. Also use a bench OF and bench catcher. It's really bad, with some players having to play 2 games at under 20% stamina before they get a rest, then they have to go back out still under 50%. With a day off coming up even my bench players will be sub 30% most likely. I'd hate to have to juggle the 40 man just because of fatigue in the second month

[CaseIH]

Re: No rest for the weary on my team... maybe there should be.

My personal answer for the first is "not enough". I have injury slider maxed and play a lot of guys (especially if they are above average and a lot of them want out at once) even when tired and it doesn't seem to matter much injury-wise. I'm always the team with the least injuries, no matter how much I abuse my position players...or my pitchers for that matter, unless I do random injuries to my guys myself.

As far as what happens, I presume they lose ratings/ability and should be getting more injury prone.

What's also fascinating is I never see position guys go all the way down to having no energy. It goes down to a minimum and will sit there until rested, but never completely bottom out.

Yeah I cant say either that low fatigue actually increases a risk of injury, Im not even 100% sure it effects play all that much, but do think it probably effects it some. Personally I don't see near enough injuries for my guys even with the injury slider raised up. In the sim games in franchise mode there is several and you have to turn down the injury slider for MILB games or there will be a ton of injuries to minor league players.


My main issue is that the AI will rest players so players that do tend to play everyday wont so the realism kind of goes out the window.


I really like to see them add a stamina rating to go with the durability rating, that way take a guys who breaks as easy as glass like Tulo would have a real low durability but high stamina rating.