An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

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  • Mike Lowe
    All Star
    • Dec 2006
    • 5287

    #16
    Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

    Tracking this in my daily franchise, through 50 games, my starting C leads all Cs in assists with 43. Next highest are 2 guys w 35, one of which is the Perez from the Royals whom I've played 6 times (likely inflated due to my team also having too many of these ridiculous groundouts.

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    • OhioCub
      Rookie
      • Apr 2014
      • 409

      #17
      Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

      This is probably my biggest gripe with the game over the years. I understand that if you top the ball it's gonna go straight into the ground. The problem is, in real life, because of the velocity of the pitch and the spin of the ball they almost always end up foul and they'll continue bouncing/rolling rather than suddenly losing all the velocity from the pitch and sitting there for the catcher to pick up.

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      • Seancefc
        Rookie
        • May 2014
        • 441

        #18
        Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

        The only time I hit bloopers on pure analog is if I'm using the left stick to set a direction I want to hit the ball in, varies the type of ball I hit.

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        • Bobhead
          Pro
          • Mar 2011
          • 4926

          #19
          Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

          If you guys are interested in a slider fix for this... lowering the Timing slider helps a ton. It shifts more of those hits foul, so that you don't waste as many at-bats.

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          • Greencollarbaseball
            Pro
            • Jun 2012
            • 926

            #20
            Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

            Originally posted by Bobhead
            I dont see this at all. I have noticed a significant lack of location-related foul balls (as opposed to fouls caused by late/early timing), though. So I absolutely believe you... I'm just saying I don't personally see it.

            On Hall of Fame (where I bat), the PCI and timing window are small enough that it doesn't happen.

            Have you started to see it, now that someone has brought it up? Like how you never see a certain car until you buy it and then they're all over the road.


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            • Bobhead
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 4926

              #21
              Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

              Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
              Have you started to see it, now that someone has brought it up? Like how you never see a certain car until you buy it and then they're all over the road.


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              Haha... not really. But I think that's because I play with Zone, and 90% of the time, if I miss, I miss below the ball, not above it. So while we might be experiencing the same underlying problem, you're seeing choppers and dribblers, and I'm seeing pop-ups and weak fly balls. That's why I stressed that I wasn't refuting the possibility.

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              • eric7064
                MVP
                • Jan 2010
                • 1151

                #22
                Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

                Way to many. It's ridiculous. Like OP said they don't happen often In real life. Also, I've noticed an insane amount of foul pop fly outs.

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                • OhioCub
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 409

                  #23
                  Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

                  Originally posted by eric7064
                  Way to many. It's ridiculous. Like OP said they don't happen often In real life. Also, I've noticed an insane amount of foul pop fly outs.
                  Yep, I see the foul outs too. Seems as though alot of balls that would go out of play irl stay in play in the show.

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                  • KBLover
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12172

                    #24
                    Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

                    Originally posted by Bobhead
                    If you guys are interested in a slider fix for this... lowering the Timing slider helps a ton. It shifts more of those hits foul, so that you don't waste as many at-bats.

                    Would Foul Frequency impact this? I've had this at 0 because of the "creating foul balls" language it uses ("increase fouls on balls that would have been just fair"), which...I do not want (if it's just fair, it's just fair).

                    I'd be more apt to try your Timing suggestion, but just wondering if my minimal Foul Frequency also contributes to the issue.
                    "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                    • Bobhead
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4926

                      #25
                      Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

                      Originally posted by KBLover
                      Would Foul Frequency impact this? I've had this at 0 because of the "creating foul balls" language it uses ("increase fouls on balls that would have been just fair"), which...I do not want (if it's just fair, it's just fair).

                      I'd be more apt to try your Timing suggestion, but just wondering if my minimal Foul Frequency also contributes to the issue.
                      Reducing foul frequency would definitely exacerbate this issue by a significant amount. Some of those choppers are balls that would have gone foul on default.

                      I think you're misunderstanding the foul slider though. It doesn't force pitches to "magically" adjust foul mid-trajectory, nor does it cause balls to be incorrectly "called" as foul or fair. It adjusts your entire range, plate coverage, and timing window, so that more or fewer foul balls are naturally created based on your timing and swing location.

                      So a ball that is 4 inches away from your PCI with the slider on default might be hit foul out of play.
                      With the slider on 3, that ball might still be foul but catchable
                      With the slider on 0, that ball might stay in fair territory.

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                      • HolyStroke3
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 693

                        #26
                        Re: An INSANE amount of choppers in front of homeplate

                        Just lost a perfect game with 1 out in the ninth on this!!! My catcher stands straight up and doesn't move, by the time my pitcher fields the ball and throws to first the runner is safe. The next hitter got a legitimate hit so I'm not that mad, but still very frustrating.

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