Pat Venditte

[ChrisHansen59]

Re: Pat Venditte

It's actually in the rulebook and is called the Pat Venditte rule, if I'm not mistaken.

I love that they had to add that rule because he would play games of chicken with switch hitters

[Hustle1man]

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It's actually in the rulebook and is called the Pat Venditte rule, if I'm not mistaken.

There have been guys before Venditte who threw from both sides. They mentioned the most recent being a guy in 1995 named Jim Harris on sportscenter earlier, so idk about the rule being because of Pat V.

[Steven78]

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No really it was recently changed specifically because of Pat V.

[zippy2212]

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There have been guys before Venditte who threw from both sides. They mentioned the most recent being a guy in 1995 named Jim Harris on sportscenter earlier, so idk about the rule being because of Pat V.

Tom Verducci talked about it on MLB tonight last night. It's definitely because of him. They showed a video when he was in the minor leagues. He and a switch hitter kept changing hands/side of the plate. After the 3rd or 4th time the HP umpire finally told the batter to get in the box and stay there. That's when they made the rule.

[KBLover]

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Even though this is cool...

I really don't care if it's in the game. He is one of a kind and I don't think it's worth the resources.

At least he exists.

Unlike a lefty throwing infielder...(unless there's one of those around now?)

If I can make a SS who can throw lefty, I want a switch pitcher, especially since one exists in real pro baseball.

[KBLover]

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There have been guys before Venditte who threw from both sides. They mentioned the most recent being a guy in 1995 named Jim Harris on sportscenter earlier, so idk about the rule being because of Pat V.

Didn't the Red Sox used to have a reliever who said he could throw either way? Even had a glove that he could wear on either hand.

Don't think he ever did it in a game, though. Greg Harris I think it was.

[HolyStroke3]

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Actually Vendittie has to indicate which hand he'll be throwing with before each at bat, and can only switch sides during an at bat if he is injured, in which case he is not allowed to throw with the injured arm for the remainder of the game. When he faces a switch hitter, he established which arm he'll throw with then the hitter chooses from which side to bat

There have been two switch pitchers before Venditte, one in the 1800's and Harris in '95, who only three one inning. Venditte already doubled that in his debut last night

[dalger21]

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In my opinion, I think this falls in the same category as things such as rain delays, double headers, etc., it would be nice but I would much rather see other things, stats, more records to break, etc than seeing a "switch pitcher".

[Houston]

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I have gave it some thought and a way to have it for this year anyways thats want to have him pitch form both sides.

You can create him as a lefty first, then clone him and change him to a righty and have 2 of him and bring whatever one you want into the game to face whoever, but the downfall is it takes up an extra roster spot.

[thescottyglasgow]

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Actually Vendittie has to indicate which hand he'll be throwing with before each at bat, and can only switch sides during an at bat if he is injured, in which case he is not allowed to throw with the injured arm for the remainder of the game. When he faces a switch hitter, he established which arm he'll throw with then the hitter chooses from which side to bat

There have been two switch pitchers before Venditte, one in the 1800's and Harris in '95, who only three one inning. Venditte already doubled that in his debut last night

Both he and the batter can switch sides once during the at bat I think.

[kehlis]

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I have gave it some thought and a way to have it for this year anyways thats want to have him pitch form both sides.

You can create him as a lefty first, then clone him and change him to a righty and have 2 of him and bring whatever one you want into the game to face whoever, but the downfall is it takes up an extra roster spot.

That kind defeats the purpose of him being able to switch hands though.

If he is due to face a lefty, righty and then another lefty I could only use him to face the first lefty and wouldn't be able to go back to him once I bring in the right handed version of him.

[HolyStroke3]

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The original rule from when Vendittie first pitched in the minors allowed for one switch per AB, but now the pitcher can only change throwing arms during an at bat if he injures the designated throwing arm for that AB

[redsox4evur]

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The original rule from when Vendittie first pitched in the minors allowed for one switch per AB, but now the pitcher can only change throwing arms during an at bat if he injures the designated throwing arm for that AB

No it's not...I watched his debut. The rule reads that: The pitcher must visually indicate to the umpire, batter and runner(s) which way he will begin pitching to the batter. Engaging the rubber with the glove on a particular hand is considered a definitive commitment to which arm he will throw with. The batter will then choose which side of the plate he will bat from.
• The pitcher must throw one pitch to the batter before any "switch" by either player is allowed.
• After one pitch is thrown, the pitcher and batter may each change positions one time per at-bat. For example, if the pitcher changes from right-handed to left-handed and the batter then changes batter's boxes, each player must remain that way for the duration of that at-bat (unless the offensive team substitutes a pinch hitter, and then each player may again "switch" one time).
• Any switch (by either the pitcher or the batter) must be clearly indicated to the umpire.
• There will be no warm-up pitches during the change of arms.
• If an injury occurs the pitcher may change arms but not use that arm again during the remainder of the game.

As the bold states he or the batter are allowed to change sides once per AB.

[jkjgiants26]

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They may wait a year or so to see if he ends up actually sticking in the majors. No point in implementing into the game and then never see him in the majors again after this season. Not to mention the bugs that will probably take some time figure out such as when a switch hitter comes up.

[Beat LA]

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Didn't the Red Sox used to have a reliever who said he could throw either way? Even had a glove that he could wear on either hand.

Don't think he ever did it in a game, though. Greg Harris I think it was.

He's not a pitcher, but another guy that can throw hard with either hand is Pablo Sandoval. He's a natural born lefty, but he wanted to play the left side of the infield, and taught himself to throw right handed. That's why he sucks batting from the right side.