Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5683

    #16
    Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

    Originally posted by Keenan G.
    I find it funny that how the NFL, MLB, and NBA want to show their product in the best possible light in a video game. Yet all a person has to do is flip it on ESPN, NFL Network, or any other sports show and you will read "X player has been suspended for PEDs" or "X player has been suspended for domestic violence".

    Though I can understand the MLB not wanting the Show to put in brawls.

    The problem is you are randomly accusing real people of PED use and domestic violence. Even if it is only a game I wouldn't want my name associated with that and I can understand why the players or their union don't want it either.

    That stuff I understand but I don't believe MLB is preventing custom logos, uniforms, team names etc because it already exists in diamond dynasty - just hasn't made it into franchise mode yet. This is more an issue of where to spend programmer hours.

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    • TonyDanzaFan
      Banned
      • Mar 2012
      • 594

      #17
      Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

      I'm pretty sure they got rid of manager arguments and ejections for this reason.

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      • Spokker
        Pro
        • May 2014
        • 615

        #18
        Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

        MLB.com's video section shows off brawls all the time. Don't know why they wouldn't want it in the game.

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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #19
          Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

          Originally posted by Spokker
          MLB.com's video section shows off brawls all the time. Don't know why they wouldn't want it in the game.

          See Tessl's post just a few posts up. Same reason he gave there.

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          • Spokker
            Pro
            • May 2014
            • 615

            #20
            Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

            Perhaps they can program in brawls for teams and players that actually have had them in real life.

            Certainly the Royals could be given a few brawl cutscenes

            What's interesting is that every player in the game has the potential to point up to the sky after a home run. Isn't that a thing for religious players or players that believe in heaven? What if a player said, "Well, I would never point up to the sky after a home run."
            Last edited by Spokker; 08-05-2015, 07:42 PM.

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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #21
              Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

              Originally posted by tessl
              The problem is you are randomly accusing real people of PED use and domestic violence. Even if it is only a game I wouldn't want my name associated with that and I can understand why the players or their union don't want it either.

              That stuff I understand but I don't believe MLB is preventing custom logos, uniforms, team names etc because it already exists in diamond dynasty - just hasn't made it into franchise mode yet. This is more an issue of where to spend programmer hours.
              I am going to play devil's advocate with you tessl on the second part. I think that they are OK with it in a mode like DD because it's a fantasy mode and you aren't always playing other MLB teams. Just a thought.
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              • countryboy
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                • Sep 2003
                • 52731

                #22
                Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                Originally posted by Spokker
                Perhaps they can program in brawls for teams and players that actually have had them in real life.

                Certainly the Royals could be given a few brawl cutscenes

                What's interesting is that every player in the game has the potential to point up to the sky after a home run. Isn't that a thing for religious players or players that believe in heaven? What if a player said, "Well, I would never point up to the sky after a home run."
                A player pointing to the sky and a player basically trying to assault another player are two completely different things. One of them is violence and it isn't the former.
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                • tessl
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5683

                  #23
                  Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                  Originally posted by redsox4evur
                  I am going to play devil's advocate with you tessl on the second part. I think that they are OK with it in a mode like DD because it's a fantasy mode and you aren't always playing other MLB teams. Just a thought.
                  Could be but Madden has relocate, rename, etc. so I'm not sure why MLB would block it when the NFL allows it. I could be wrong but I think it is a decision of where to spend programmer resources.

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                  • KBLover
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12172

                    #24
                    Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    The problem is you are randomly accusing real people of PED use and domestic violence. Even if it is only a game I wouldn't want my name associated with that and I can understand why the players or their union don't want it either.


                    I don't see how RNG saying "player_5739 is suspended for drugs" is "accusing" anyone of anything.
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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #25
                      Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                      Originally posted by KBLover
                      I don't see how RNG saying "player_5739 is suspended for drugs" is "accusing" anyone of anything.
                      Accusing wasn't the right word but he's not wrong.

                      Fictional or not I can understand why the MLBPA wouldn't want (as an example) say an Andrew McCutchen getting suspended in the Show for PED's.

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                      • Toupal
                        MVP
                        • May 2014
                        • 1296

                        #26
                        Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                        Originally posted by tessl
                        The problem is you are randomly accusing real people of PED use and domestic violence. Even if it is only a game I wouldn't want my name associated with that and I can understand why the players or their union don't want it either.

                        That stuff I understand but I don't believe MLB is preventing custom logos, uniforms, team names etc because it already exists in diamond dynasty - just hasn't made it into franchise mode yet. This is more an issue of where to spend programmer hours.
                        I know what you mean.

                        I do love how NCAA on ps2 and Xbox had players break team rules, cheat on a test, or were academically under-performing, you could suspend them or not. And depending on whether you would suspend players or not, it would affect your teams' image and recruiting. So if you never suspended players, your team would be equivalent to a Miami of the 80's, or if you suspended them you would gain a reputation like Notre Dame or Stanford.

                        Granted I know that with having real players, it would be tricky to get the MLB on board. But I think it would be cool to add that kind of element to the game.

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                        • redsox4evur
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 18169

                          #27
                          Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          Could be but Madden has relocate, rename, etc. so I'm not sure why MLB would block it when the NFL allows it. I could be wrong but I think it is a decision of where to spend programmer resources.
                          It could be because the MLB isn't really talking/looking into relocation right now whereas the NFL is with LA and London being the 2 biggest cities. In the MLB, they want to keep their teams in the same general area they are in. They are not actively looking into relocating teams like the Rays and A's. They are having the teams looking into getting new stadiums with the Rays actually moving to Tampa instead of St. Pete.
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                          • Speedy
                            #Ace
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 16143

                            #28
                            Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            ....the "snot rocket".....If you remember in previous versions (maybe pre-11?) the pitcher would hold one side of his nose and blow.

                            It was a little joke....realism? ...cut scene that the MLB told SCEA they had to remove.
                            So throwing snot on the ground was obscene?

                            Seriously though...what's the issue with that?
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                            Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                            It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                            • Spokker
                              Pro
                              • May 2014
                              • 615

                              #29
                              Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              A player pointing to the sky and a player basically trying to assault another player are two completely different things. One of them is violence and it isn't the former.
                              Is a baseball brawl really considered assault? I figure there would be arrests if so.

                              Guys mostly push and shove during brawls. I rarely see punches thrown.

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                              • MatrixTN
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                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1857

                                #30
                                Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

                                Did they take out the "idiot fan on the field" cutscene? Granted it wasn't shown but Vas would mention it.

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