Scoring Questions

[kehlis]

Re: Scoring Questions

They would still have to at least tie the game to negate the loss on Haren. The Q still stands - If they didn't tie the game before the opp's 9th run, Haren would still be due the loss as it goes to who allowed the lead(-changing) run.

They didn't just tie, they took the lead as I've mentioned a few times now:

Cubs were up 8-7 when the 8th and 9th runs were given up by Wood. Wood should get the loss.

[MatrixTN]

Re: Scoring Questions

Possibility 1 (current assumption): Cubs negated the lead and lost in the 9th. Wood, who allowed the 9th run, should've been given the L (given to starter Haren instead). Bug.

Possibility 2: Assuming the 1st, Haren was still pitching and allowed the 8th/9th runs on base, Wood allows them to score (charged to Haren).

Possibility 3: Cubs did not tie the game, loss to Haren (allowed leading run).

We don't know when the opp's 9th run was scored, need more info from the OP.

[cusefan74]

Re: Scoring Questions

Scenario#1: Did you still have a three run lead or did you score more runs? If it was a three run lead you should have gotten the save, any more then three, then no save.

Scenario#2: Wood should have received the loss he gave up the lead. I was not confused by the post at all.

[zippy2212]

Re: Scoring Questions

Cubs were up 8-7 when the 8th and 9th runs were given up by Wood. Wood should get the loss.

Then Wood definitely should have gotten the loss, with Haren getting a ND.

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[Mike Lowe]

Re: Scoring Questions

Stolen bases being awarded on 1) defensive indifference and 2) on hit and run attempts that result in a FC at 1B.

[kehlis]

Re: Scoring Questions

Scenario#2: Wood should have received the loss he gave up the lead. I was not confused by the post at all.

Actually, MatrixTN is right about this. Safe to assume Haren was out of the game but it's not explicitly pointed out so in theory if Haren was responsible for the runners that scored the 8th and 9th runs he WOULD get the loss.

Possibility 2: Assuming the 1st, Haren was still pitching and allowed the 8th/9th runs on base, Wood allows them to score (charged to Haren).

[cusefan74]

Re: Scoring Questions

Actually, MatrixTN is right about this. Safe to assume Haren was out of the game but it's not explicitly pointed out so in theory if Haren was responsible for the runners that scored the 8th and 9th runs he WOULD get the loss.

I was assuming that wood was the pitcher from the start of the inning, but if he wasn't, then yes, Haren would get the loss.

[Violinguy]

Re: Scoring Questions

Like others said, in scenario 1 Rondon should have gotten a save. I've had this happen to me before. The correct pitcher (who pitched the bottom of the last inning got the win) but no save was awarded.

Scenario 2: Haren would get a loss even if he gave up 1 run and Wood gave up 8 as long as the Cubs never tied the game.

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This makes sense. The Cubs never tied it. They got within 1 and then another pitcher gave up two more.

In the first scenario, the score was tied and in the top of the 11th, Rizzo hits a 3-run HR. Rondon comes in and closes it out. In my game, Travis Wood (pitched the 10th) got the win and Rondon got nothing. I would have thought Wood gets the win and Rondon the save.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. It was clear in my head when I wrote it...

[MatrixTN]

Re: Scoring Questions

This makes sense. The Cubs never tied it. They got within 1 and then another pitcher gave up two more.

In the first scenario, the score was tied and in the top of the 11th, Rizzo hits a 3-run HR. Rondon comes in and closes it out. In my game, Travis Wood (pitched the 10th) got the win and Rondon got nothing. I would have thought Wood gets the win and Rondon the save.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. It was clear in my head when I wrote it...

Yeah, the game is iffy about extra inning saves, don't know if its just with 3-run leads or what.

[saturn2187]

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This makes sense. The Cubs never tied it. They got within 1 and then another pitcher gave up two more.

In the first scenario, the score was tied and in the top of the 11th, Rizzo hits a 3-run HR. Rondon comes in and closes it out. In my game, Travis Wood (pitched the 10th) got the win and Rondon got nothing. I would have thought Wood gets the win and Rondon the save.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. It was clear in my head when I wrote it...

I understood what you meant. Haren getting the loss is the correct outcome!