RA Dickey is a CPU Cheat Code

[CanOfCornCobb]

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Won 1-0 no bleep. bot 8th walked with bonifacio. Stole 2nd, stole 3rd, scored on a sac fly. Yelled yess!!!! at the top of my lungs when I struck out Melky Cabrera on a check swing by the 1st base umpire to end the ALDS. Btw Dickeys strike % was still WAY off the charts......
-Knuckleball was 90% strike and I had 2 hits
-1 hit off his 4-seam
-1 hit off his change
......looking at his total pitch start/strike zone, 80% of his pitches did and would have ended up in the strike zone regardless of me swinging. Second time in 5 games that would have been the case. This is as open and shut as it gets people.
Edit- I want to mention I play with PADS HOF Zone hitting slders which makes him twice as difficult to hit.

[Bacong]

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I apologize, but I dont think "I find him easy to hit" offers anything to the thread. Just my opinion.

I also apologize for being flippant and inciting this response. I do find him easy to hit, but if he does throw too many strikes that is a problem.

[CanOfCornCobb]

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I also apologize for being flippant and inciting this response. I do find him easy to hit, but if he does throw too many strikes that is a problem.

Good stuff...my bad

[nomo17k]

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I don't know about being hard/easy to hit, but it is definitely true that knuckle ball pitchers throw strikes too easily in the game.

I've been running CPU vs CPU games in franchise mode, and through about half the way in the season near All-star break, Dickey I remember has only allowed only several walks (I think it was definitely lower than 10)... which is possible for a pitcher like Greg Maddux but not knuckle ball pitchers.

I mostly see Dickey throwing way more than 70% of knuckle balls for strikes, which wouldn't happen in real life too often.

If it is too easy for a knuckleballer to throw them in the strike zone, you basically have to swing at a lot of them sacrificing plate discipline, and in the end whether you can square up against a knuckle ball depends mostly on luck (how much it breaks for that particular pitch).

Even though some people (especially those who play at lower difficulty levels) may still hit well, it is not very fun to do so, when so much depends on dice roll.

[Spokker]

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I was really intimidated by RA Dickey at first, both when he is controlled by the AI and during multiplayer. You just hear so many things about the knuckleball.

Once I practiced against him in practice mode, I found he was surprisingly easy to hit as long as you are patient.

[Trent Booty]

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This reminds me of how I would always pick up Tim Wakefield and piss him off with knuckle's when we would play.

I haven't faced Dickey in year one, and I have one more series with the Jays, but I have played him in an exhibition (my damn little brother was trying to get back at me. Lol) and he does throw a lot of strikes. I think he struck me out 12 times (though I was using the Mariners... So that might be why lol)

I think just editing his knuckleball control down like 10-15 points would help

[kamackeris76]

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I'm pitching with dickey right now against the Yankees and after 3 innings I have given up 5 runs lol. 0 strike outs so far. I am winning though 8 5 mind! The most ridiculous game I have played. I've had 11 hits and the Yankees 7 after 3 innings

[PPerfect_CJ]

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Dickey's always given me trouble, too, but I can't hit the knuckleball for crap.

[CanOfCornCobb]

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I love all the responses Ive read. Pitching with Dickey himself is not the problem at hand. IVe only faced the guy 6 times in literally the last 3 years and the 2 of those games have been in the last 24 hours. There is nothing you can do about it. Im playing with PADS fantastic sliders for the end year and taking a break classic like I do every year. The knuckleball seems tobe tuned differently than every other pitch. I tried to just stand there and watch 1 or strikes to drive his pitch count up but a fter a few innings I throw that strategy out of the window because hes always getting up in the count 1-2 or 0-2. There is no strategy when you face him because 95% of his pitches thrown are knuckles and 90% of those are actual strikes.

[madmax52277]

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Hall of fame level dickey could be really tricky. and sometimes I do notice pitcher's will come right at you throwing strikes, specially dickey.

[TheBallGuru]

RA Dickey is a CPU Cheat Code

Please dont start with me.

You can't start a thread then when people disagree with your point say "don't start with me". Not everyone struggles vs Dickey.

Dont say that. Im not the B& moan type but if im B'ing and moaning its because there is something seriously wrong with something in the game that just plain doesnt make any sense at all!!!! Why should I have to go in and fix the game for them!!! I shouldnt! Even if I do, it doesnt matter now, because RA Dickey threw 90% of his pitches for strikes against me already in game 1 of the ALDS and I lost game 1 already. Thats the least in-sincere post ive ever read here on OS and its very concerning, quite frankly.

It takes two seconds to edit, don't act like its a huge waste of time. Sorry their game isn't 100% perfect, you said everyone else is correct, except Dickey. So you can't take the time it took you to make this thread and instead edit Dickey and then you won't have anything to complain about. Takes 2 seconds.

[Spokker]

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I'm pitching with dickey right now against the Yankees and after 3 innings I have given up 5 runs lol

Did you check his fingernails? Press L3 to use the nail file before each pitch

[ManiacMatt1782]

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I find him a bit too easy to hit for the same reason the OP is stuggling, He does seem to throw a lot of strikes. For me I can just wait on it and send a liner opposite field a lot of the time. and if those liners find gaps, it's doubles galore vs him.

[Glenn33]

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To the OP - I feel your pain! This thing is tough!

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CNTSO7zWoAAQWWB.mp4

(Real life)

[KBLover]

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IVe only faced the guy 6 times in literally the last 3 years and the 2 of those games have been in the last 24 hours. There is nothing you can do about it. Im playing with PADS fantastic sliders for the end year and taking a break classic like I do every year. The knuckleball seems tobe tuned differently than every other pitch. I tried to just stand there and watch 1 or strikes to drive his pitch count up but a fter a few innings I throw that strategy out of the window because hes always getting up in the count 1-2 or 0-2. There is no strategy when you face him because 95% of his pitches thrown are knuckles and 90% of those are actual strikes.

Dickey is long gone in my franchise (carryover) but what I remember of him in 2014's game is that his KN had less movement since that's the style of knuckler he throws (threw?). Less movement, more velocity in hopes of having more control.

Of course, looking up other knuckleballers who threw the "classic" knuckler on fangraphs (like Wakefield), I wonder about that. His strike rate is about the same as Wakefield's. Sadly fangraphs won't have info on guys like Hough or Candiotti, etc.

Anyway, I think that might be part of it. His BB/9 might be too high along with control rating and lower movement (for a knuckleballer). I could see how that would add up to a lot of strikes. He'd be basically throwing change ups (or slow splitters) instead of knuckleballs, movement and control-wise.

The draftee I have has high control, but like 90 movement on his knuckler and mediocre BB/9 and it goes all over the place - most of his strikes come from chases. I remember creating a guy with poor control and high movement with the knuckler and he, literally, had like a 30% strike rate. It was funny and frustrating at the same time.

And I'll never forget facing a knuckleball rotation once in MLB14. That was an...interesting...series.

So I think it's as much Dickey's ratings as much as the pitch itself.