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  • Mike Lowe
    All Star
    • Dec 2006
    • 5286

    #16
    Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

    I just ran a test season using Worst Sliders Ever (sim settings) and the roster that recommends using those for simming games (realism final) and the stats looked good for SP.

    The issue still is that MR are pitching way way way more than 1 inning per game on average--most guys are used as long relievers.

    Unfortunately it seems we're dealing with a case of choosing which stats would bother us the least!
    Last edited by Mike Lowe; 09-30-2015, 12:56 AM.

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    • Mike Lowe
      All Star
      • Dec 2006
      • 5286

      #17
      Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

      I've updated my slider set with what I'm confident brings the most accurate and realistic simulated games results. Also, my most recent Twitch video shows a simulated test season along with some discussion.

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      • bobloblah1980
        Rookie
        • Oct 2010
        • 459

        #18
        Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

        The other thing that happens unless you do 30 team control is the AI will keep the highest rated pitchers regardless of type which ends up meaning 7,8 even 9 Sp's on the 25 man roster so they have higher stamina and go more innings. Very frustrating when you are looking for realistic numbers here too
        MLB The Show Hybrid Roster Contributor

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        • hitstreak13
          MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 1117

          #19
          Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

          Yea, 30 team control and simulating each AI vs AI game is the way to go. I just make sure that whoever wins the game on the initial sim wins no matter what to keep it fair. But with these results, here are the top leaders:

          Through 105 games (MLB):

          CG:
          Ervin Santana- 3
          Jered Weaver- 3
          Felix Hernandez- 3
          Clayton Kershaw- 3
          16 tied- 2
          25 tied- 1

          Maybe a bit low, but I was tired of seeing several guys with 10 or more. Overall, numbers are right where they should be in real life. A little more work, but that is ok.
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          • forme95
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 3118

            #20
            Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

            Originally posted by hitstreak13
            Yea, 30 team control and simulating each AI vs AI game is the way to go. I just make sure that whoever wins the game on the initial sim wins no matter what to keep it fair. But with these results, here are the top leaders:

            Through 105 games (MLB):

            CG:
            Ervin Santana- 3
            Jered Weaver- 3
            Felix Hernandez- 3
            Clayton Kershaw- 3
            16 tied- 2
            25 tied- 1

            Maybe a bit low, but I was tired of seeing several guys with 10 or more. Overall, numbers are right where they should be in real life. A little more work, but that is ok.
            Actually, that is not bad. As of (I think it was) 09/26 there were 4 pitchers in MLB who had 4, 6 that had 3, then a few with 2 and a bunch with one, for a total of like 144 CG's according to MLB.com
            Really wish sports games played to ratings!
            Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
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            MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
            Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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            • forme95
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3118

              #21
              Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

              Not that I am sure it has anything to do with it, but I started a franchise using Starter Stanima @ 5, Reliever Stanima @ 2 and Hook @ 5. Im controlling a AL team (Indians) AND a NL team (Braves) and though the first week of the regular season, not 1 pitcher has gone a complete game yet. Just thought that was interesting and wanted to share.
              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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              • Mike Lowe
                All Star
                • Dec 2006
                • 5286

                #22
                Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

                Originally posted by hitstreak13
                Yea, 30 team control and simulating each AI vs AI game is the way to go. I just make sure that whoever wins the game on the initial sim wins no matter what to keep it fair. But with these results, here are the top leaders:

                Through 105 games (MLB):

                CG:
                Ervin Santana- 3
                Jered Weaver- 3
                Felix Hernandez- 3
                Clayton Kershaw- 3
                16 tied- 2
                25 tied- 1

                Maybe a bit low, but I was tired of seeing several guys with 10 or more. Overall, numbers are right where they should be in real life. A little more work, but that is ok.
                Those aren't low really for 105 games. I'd say it's in line with what I'm getting simulating using 8 for SP stamina, 0 for MR stamina, and 8 for manager hook.

                Details on the rest are in my sliders.

                And my tests didn't find a difference between single game simming or just using the advance button. It had everything to do with sliders.

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                • Mike Lowe
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 5286

                  #23
                  Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

                  Originally posted by forme95
                  Not that I am sure it has anything to do with it, but I started a franchise using Starter Stanima @ 5, Reliever Stanima @ 2 and Hook @ 5. Im controlling a AL team (Indians) AND a NL team (Braves) and though the first week of the regular season, not 1 pitcher has gone a complete game yet. Just thought that was interesting and wanted to share.
                  It actually could. The game's commentary mentions pitchers needing more time to stretch in April. That may just be talk. It is, however, standard practice to go easy on guys that first month.

                  I haven't done any sort of digging on first month patterns on pitcher use.

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                  • forme95
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3118

                    #24
                    Re: Possible Fix for Complete Games and Shutouts

                    Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                    It actually could. The game's commentary mentions pitchers needing more time to stretch in April. That may just be talk. It is, however, standard practice to go easy on guys that first month.

                    I haven't done any sort of digging on first month patterns on pitcher use.
                    Its a game. It doesnt ease into anything lol. Game one plays like game 162.

                    I just thought that was actually kind of wierd to go a whole week and not have 1 pitcher have a CG. Funny how that is weird lol. In any case, I just wanted to share it. I will keep you up to date on how mine goes.
                    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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