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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #16
    Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

    Originally posted by nemesis04
    You are going to have over 1,500 people come to the studio to do mocap? Sounds reasonable!
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    • Speedy
      #Ace
      • Apr 2008
      • 16143

      #17
      Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

      Speaking of animations, I hope eventually to see two things:

      Catcher animations completely redone.

      The foul tip redone (the 1-handed follow through is way too quick for me).
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      • Russell_SCEA
        SCEA Community Manager
        • May 2005
        • 4161

        #18
        Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

        Originally posted by nemesis04
        You are going to have over 1,500 people come to the studio to do mocap? Sounds reasonable!
        I just can't anymore this place so strange.

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        • MrOldboy
          MVP
          • Feb 2011
          • 2653

          #19
          Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

          Originally posted by nemesis04
          You are going to have over 1,500 people come to the studio to do mocap? Sounds reasonable!
          When I read it it sounded crazy, but then I wondered if they could cobble together a poor-mans version to use during spring training when they get face scans. Just to get a few swings from players who want to and/or are getting face scans. Even that is crazy, but I've seen video game developers do crazier things.

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          • Russell_SCEA
            SCEA Community Manager
            • May 2005
            • 4161

            #20
            Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

            Originally posted by MrOldboy
            When I read it it sounded crazy, but then I wondered if they could cobble together a poor-mans version to use during spring training when they get face scans. Just to get a few swings from players who want to and/or are getting face scans. Even that is crazy, but I've seen video game developers do crazier things.
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            • TheWarmWind
              MVP
              • Apr 2015
              • 2620

              #21
              Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

              Originally posted by MrOldboy
              When I read it it sounded crazy, but then I wondered if they could cobble together a poor-mans version to use during spring training when they get face scans. Just to get a few swings from players who want to and/or are getting face scans. Even that is crazy, but I've seen video game developers do crazier things.
              Good point, but your example of rockstar is hard to compare. Rockstar is a much larger dev studio with many more employees, and a MUCH larger dev cycle. Overall, I'm actually more impressed with what the Show devs accomplish, and Red Dead Redemption is in my top 10 favorite games of all time list.

              if all they did was mocap, 60 hours a week, would that still be enough time? gimme a sec to do the math.
              Last edited by TheWarmWind; 02-21-2016, 08:45 PM.

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              • redsox4evur
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2013
                • 18169

                #22
                Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

                Originally posted by MrOldboy
                When I read it it sounded crazy, but then I wondered if they could cobble together a poor-mans version to use during spring training when they get face scans. Just to get a few swings from players who want to and/or are getting face scans. Even that is crazy, but I've seen video game developers do crazier things.
                1500 players...that's over 100 players per month. And that means taking resources away from improving other areas of the game. By resources I mean time, money, manpower, etc.
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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #23
                  Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

                  Originally posted by mlblover15
                  ok i by no meas have any idea how long it takes for motion capture to work for one thing...

                  however in my mind... if done properly you could get each actual player in and have them run through every motion they do in real time... and then we would have every players stuff in there...

                  we do however have to seriously work on the catcher stuff behind the plate... there is def not enough movement behind the plate for blocking balls or all that...

                  just my .02...
                  In your mind it might be feasible but in the real world this is one of the most ludicrous suggestions I have ever read.

                  Are you accounting for the cost involved with bringing every player in? What is the motivation to get every player to come in and do this? What about the time involved?

                  What about the opportunity cost to do this?

                  I honestly have a hard time believing that was even a real suggestion.

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #24
                    Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

                    Originally posted by kehlis
                    In your mind it might be feasible but in the real world this is one of the most ludicrous suggestions I have ever read.

                    Are you accounting for the cost involved with bringing every player in? What is the motivation to get every player to come in and do this? What about the time involved?

                    What about the opportunity cost to do this?

                    I honestly have a hard time believing that was even a real suggestion.
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                    • MrOldboy
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2653

                      #25
                      Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

                      Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                      Lord have mercy give me the strength
                      You asked for it.

                      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                      Good point, but your example of rockstar is hard to compare. Rockstar is a much larger dev studio with many more employees, and a MUCH larger dev cycle. Overall, I'm actually more impressed with what the Show devs accomplish, and Red Dead Redemption is in my top 10 favorite games of all time list.

                      if all they did was mocap, 60 hours a week, would that still be enough time? gimme a sec to do the math.
                      Originally posted by redsox4evur
                      1500 players...that's over 100 players per month. And that means taking resources away from improving other areas of the game. By resources I mean time, money, manpower, etc.
                      I was joking, but even then I didn't mean all 1500 players. Just the ones getting face scanned in ST. I was trying to figure out a way to make mlblover15's post make sense and it just...doesn't.
                      Last edited by MrOldboy; 02-21-2016, 09:22 PM.

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                      • Factzzz
                        FA
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 1655

                        #26
                        Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

                        Something that happened when i was playing today
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                        I preloaded my throw to first base from the very beginning, i didn't go for the tag, computer automatically did that, which i don't mind, but after the tag, instead of going into a smooth throw animation, the fielder freezes and doesn't do anything and then goes into that ready throw animation.

                        Hopefully in the future, human IK can help with the transition of animations, and make everything smoother. This year it seems like it's only focused on foot planting.

                        Also the tag animation itself could use some work, definite clipping there as the fielder went through the baserunner during the tag. Don't know if human IK helps with clipping at all.
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                        • nemesis04
                          RIP Ty My Buddy
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 13530

                          #27
                          Re: MLB The Show 16 Video - Showing off Human IK

                          ^From my understanding I believe the goal is to incorporate more facets of the IK system. Foot planting is the start and I am sure tags would be high on the list.
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