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  • CBoller1331
    It Appears I Blue Myself
    • Dec 2013
    • 3082

    #2521
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Alfonsori
    Well the sox are paying Shields and Kemp around 5 mil each.
    And I figured it was a bit to much to be dumping both of them at 1 team. But since Eaton is out for the remainder of the season I thought they could use both. And thats why I only went for Sanchez, Garcia and beck

    What about the Cashner trade?
    And its picknick nr 3��
    But to be fair, when the cubs are playing the BoSox or ChiSox in the world series im rooting for my cubbies
    Oh, i miss read and thought that you only got Sanchez, and that Garcia and Beck were injured with the Sox. Thats actually a pretty fair deal since your eating large portions of each contract.
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    • The Left Shark
      Rookie
      • Mar 2015
      • 461

      #2522
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
      Well first of all, he said it's for his Padres chise.

      Secondly, both Chicago teams are actually in his sig.

      Thirdly, a dude from the Netherlands probably does not share our petty micro-regional biases in sports teams.

      Take your pick of those 3, lol.

      Lol fail on my part. Glanced earlier at work.

      How do you eat most of a guys contract when you trade him? Is that an option this year?

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      • CBoller1331
        It Appears I Blue Myself
        • Dec 2013
        • 3082

        #2523
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by The Left Shark
        Lol fail on my part. Glanced earlier at work.

        How do you eat most of a guys contract when you trade him? Is that an option this year?
        You can't technically eat a contract, but the original poster used a sort of trick by releasing Shields and Kemp and signing them to smaller contracts (so the Sox wouldn't have the huge contracts). You shouldn't have any problems trying to resign them to small contracts if they are actually on bad contracts because the player will take less money if they aren't actually worth it.
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        • k_mac
          MVP
          • Mar 2011
          • 2059

          #2524
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by CBoller1331
          You can't technically eat a contract, but the original poster used a sort of trick by releasing Shields and Kemp and signing them to smaller contracts (so the Sox wouldn't have the huge contracts). You shouldn't have any problems trying to resign them to small contracts if they are actually on bad contracts because the player will take less money if they aren't actually worth it.

          In my franchise (not playing as either team) I traded Shields to the Sox for the original package and threw in Danks and his $14 or so million, and just cut him once he was with SD (since the Sox released him anyway). You could probably add Rollins in there since he's on the same path. I don't know what his salary is IRL, but it could work. Doesn't matter if both are cut from SD, the outcome is the same + SD is on the hook for the money, essentially "eating the contract" of Shields.

          Of course, this is an option for those running 30 team control with real contract.

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          • rovert22044
            OCD Roster Editor
            • Dec 2010
            • 2509

            #2525
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Alfonsori
            Andrew Cashner to the Astros for Francis Martes and Marwin Gonzalez.

            Cashner 6-6 3.99 ERA 79 SO 1.45 WHIP
            M. Gonzalez .263 8 HR 32 RBI
            Martes 0-4 37 SO 4.75 ERA at AAA
            As an Astros' fan, I personally wouldn't do the trade, but I don't think you're too far off. Maybe sub out Martes and grab someone like Joe Musgrove? I like Musgrove, but Martes is the superior prospect and talent overall.

            If you're set not set on Marwin, I think grabbing Singleton would be a nice option for the Padres, but you wouldn't get Martes/Musgrove in the deal.
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            • The Left Shark
              Rookie
              • Mar 2015
              • 461

              #2526
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              Playing as the White Sox, what would it take to get Cashner or Ross? Or would I be better off waiting til offseason when Cashner/others are free agents?

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              • GamecocksLaw17
                MVP
                • Jun 2015
                • 1503

                #2527
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by The Left Shark
                Playing as the White Sox, what would it take to get Cashner or Ross? Or would I be better off waiting til offseason when Cashner/others are free agents?
                A healthy Ross starts with Tim Anderson. The Sox don't have a ton of appealing prospects left (Anderson & Fulmer). Cashner would be cheaper but it depends on how he is pitching. If its like real life probably something headlined by Michalczewski. If he is pitching lights out it would take one of the top 2 to get things started.


                You could replicate the real life move and get Shields who was super cheap prospect wise.

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                • Dirty_D_
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 230

                  #2528
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Most likely a no but I would like some input.

                  Tigers get

                  Jose Fernandez


                  Marlins get

                  Michael Fulmer
                  Nick Castellanos
                  Jose Iglesias
                  Christin Stewart (OF B prospect)
                  Spencer Turnbull (RHP Mid C prospect)

                  *will do in two trades with the second trade being there worst player with worst potential* also no stats right now as I'm at work.
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                  • Alfonsori
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 136

                    #2529
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by rovert22044
                    As an Astros' fan, I personally wouldn't do the trade, but I don't think you're too far off. Maybe sub out Martes and grab someone like Joe Musgrove? I like Musgrove, but Martes is the superior prospect and talent overall.

                    If you're set not set on Marwin, I think grabbing Singleton would be a nice option for the Padres, but you wouldn't get Martes/Musgrove in the deal.
                    Well I liked Marwin, because he can play all over the infielders, and Amarista/rosales are playing below replacement level. So Marwin and Musgrove? I was also looking at Akeem Bostick. I like him more actually.

                    I ended up Trading Kemp to the Sox for Garcia and Sanchez. Fair? Shields is still on my team, any ideas where I can dump him? Maybe the BoSox, they got terrible results with Kelly and Porcello
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                    • Alfonsori
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 136

                      #2530
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Dirty_D_
                      Most likely a no but I would like some input.

                      Tigers get

                      Jose Fernandez


                      Marlins get

                      Michael Fulmer
                      Nick Castellanos
                      Jose Iglesias
                      Christin Stewart (OF B prospect)
                      Spencer Turnbull (RHP Mid C prospect)

                      *will do in two trades with the second trade being there worst player with worst potential* also no stats right now as I'm at work.
                      Don't think they will do that. They don't have any replacement for Iglesias AND Castellanos. Plus the Marlins are set at MI with Hech and Gordon. So not really any need for another Defensive minded shortstop
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                      • GamecocksLaw17
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 1503

                        #2531
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Dirty_D_
                        Most likely a no but I would like some input.

                        Tigers get

                        Jose Fernandez


                        Marlins get

                        Michael Fulmer
                        Nick Castellanos
                        Jose Iglesias
                        Christin Stewart (OF B prospect)
                        Spencer Turnbull (RHP Mid C prospect)

                        *will do in two trades with the second trade being there worst player with worst potential* also no stats right now as I'm at work.
                        Two years of Fernandez (after 2016) is super valuable. So this package wouldn't get it done.


                        Iglesias is redundant. He reaches free agency the same time as Hechavarria, and they are both no bat defensive SS. Castellanos is having his first ever season with a positive WAR, but he would be a decent piece. Fulmer has the look of a #2 in a pitching staff. Those other two players don't move the needle much at all.


                        To trade away Fernandez the Marlins would need to be floored. Other teams could offer legit packages. The Rangers could do something like Gallo + Profar +. Red Sox could offer two of Moncada/Benintendi/Dever. There are just too many teams with the pieces to offer a better package than anything the Tigers could come up with.

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                        • Dirty_D_
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 230

                          #2532
                          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Alfonsori
                          Don't think they will do that. They don't have any replacement for Iglesias AND Castellanos. Plus the Marlins are set at MI with Hech and Gordon. So not really any need for another Defensive minded shortstop
                          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                          Two years of Fernandez (after 2016) is super valuable. So this package wouldn't get it done.


                          Iglesias is redundant. He reaches free agency the same time as Hechavarria, and they are both no bat defensive SS. Castellanos is having his first ever season with a positive WAR, but he would be a decent piece. Fulmer has the look of a #2 in a pitching staff. Those other two players don't move the needle much at all.


                          To trade away Fernandez the Marlins would need to be floored. Other teams could offer legit packages. The Rangers could do something like Gallo + Profar +. Red Sox could offer two of Moncada/Benintendi/Dever. There are just too many teams with the pieces to offer a better package than anything the Tigers could come up with.
                          Thanks guys
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                          • The Left Shark
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 461

                            #2533
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                            A healthy Ross starts with Tim Anderson. The Sox don't have a ton of appealing prospects left (Anderson & Fulmer). Cashner would be cheaper but it depends on how he is pitching. If its like real life probably something headlined by Michalczewski. If he is pitching lights out it would take one of the top 2 to get things started.


                            You could replicate the real life move and get Shields who was super cheap prospect wise.

                            Yeah and better overall in the game. I was also thinking of moving short-term pieces like Robertson to acquire some more prospects.

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                            • chilidogbeefcake
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 526

                              #2534
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              In 2016 in my pirates franchise, considering trading McCutchen

                              What type of package would you pursure in return?

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                              • Dirty_D_
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 230

                                #2535
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                                Two years of Fernandez (after 2016) is super valuable. So this package wouldn't get it done.


                                Iglesias is redundant. He reaches free agency the same time as Hechavarria, and they are both no bat defensive SS. Castellanos is having his first ever season with a positive WAR, but he would be a decent piece. Fulmer has the look of a #2 in a pitching staff. Those other two players don't move the needle much at all.


                                To trade away Fernandez the Marlins would need to be floored. Other teams could offer legit packages. The Rangers could do something like Gallo + Profar +. Red Sox could offer two of Moncada/Benintendi/Dever. There are just too many teams with the pieces to offer a better package than anything the Tigers could come up with.
                                Could Chris Archer, Hank Conger fetch the Rays this bounty

                                Martin Perez
                                Joey Gallo
                                Jurickson Profar/Lewis Brinson/Nomar Mazara

                                I know there's a lot of options as to Archers value. But with the Rays being a small market club not known to spend tons of money I think he can get them some nice cost controlled players. If not from the Rangers then from who ?
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