MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Tmizzle]

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So I have two CPU offered trades that were offered last night. The first is the Indians offered me Jose Ramirez for Tyler Duffy. The first thing is that is a in division deal and I have no use for Jose Ramirez since I already have a super utility man in Danny Santana. The second is a straight swap in bad salaries with Melvin Upton for Ricky Nolasco. I'm thinking about taking this so I can move Alex Meyer into the starting rotation. I'm still
Looking at the Mesoroco trade as well as possibly a Travis Wood deal.

[Nulap]

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Gotta love Mark DeRosa, the trade ideas that he comes up with are ridiculous to say the least. And he seems to love the overpay.

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[GamecocksLaw17]

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Gotta love Mark DeRosa, the trade ideas that he comes up with are ridiculous to say the least. And he seems to love the overpay.

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But honestly Turner Robles and Giolito might not get it done if the want Profar Gallo and Mazara

[B Easy]

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Kind of a long winded post, but, hear me out...

Currently sitting 10-8 in my fantasy draft season with the Mets and looking to shake things up.

The Padres are out of contention as I write this; their record is 5-13. I'm thinking about prying a young, sweet-swinging right fielder by the name of Tony Gwynn from their grasps and I have a piece they are interested in in Orlando Cepeda. Let me preface by saying I know the Padres, who just so happened to draft Gwynn in a fantasy draft, would probably NEVER trade him (especially the younger, '87 version) but, this is a fantasy season and Gwynn is one of my all time favorite players.

The Friars are willing to do a Gwynn, Carlton Fisk, add-in for Cepeda, Jason Heyward/Yan Gomes, add-in.

Realistically speaking, how far off is a Cepeda for Gwynn swap straight up? I'd love to get Fisk in the deal as well as he is currently hitting under the Mendoza line and has something like 1 HR and 3 RBI. Gwynn isn't doing much better, hovering around .200. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger later today but would like to ask around first.


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[Totte]

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Just rolled into the ASB in my Padres franchise. At 38-51, I decided that we would be selling. I have 3 players that I am trying to gauge value on (I will roll them out one at a time so as to not overwhelm). Note that I already dealt Tyson Ross + Derek Norris in preseason and dealt Fernando Rodney a week or so ago. I will also be doing Pomeranz for Espinoza.

The first player on the agenda is James Shields.

Contract Info: 2.5 years left at $21.6MM per season

Vitals: 34 y/o, 79 OVR, B POT [66 H/9 | 59 K/9 | 65 BB/9 | 54 HR/9 | 84 STAM] (about 4-5 points of across the board regression so far this season have already been taken into account in these ratings)

Triple Crown Stats: 6-6, 4.02 ERA

Volume Stats: 121 IP, 107 K, 41 BB, 10 HR, 20 GS, 1 CG SHO, 10 QS

Rate Stats (career norms): 7.96 K/9 (7.85) | 3.05 BB/9 (2.31) | 0.74 HR/9 (1.09), 1.37 WHIP (1.24)

Nutshell Stats: 2.48 WAR (4.5 WAR pace), 3.36 FIP (3.63 career FIP)

Potentially Interested Teams: Toronto (56-36, 1st place), Kansas City (52-38, 1st place), Houston (53-38, t-1st), Chicago Cubs (63-27, 1st place).

Note that the White Sox are not on this list and are far out of contention. A Shields to White Sox deal won't work. The Blue Jays have the biggest need (2nd worst ERA in baseball). I also don't think sending Shields back to KC is realistic.

What I hope to accomplish here: Mostly I want to explore the concept of salary relief. I have some ideas for making a splash in the 2016-2017 offseason so I am interested in having another team assume Shields' entire contract even if I don't get much back in terms of prospects. Given that Shields had only 0.5 fWAR in real life when the Sox agreed to pay half his salary plus Erik Johnson + Fernando Tatis Jr. it might be feasible here. In my chise, Shields has 2.5 WAR and I want to explore dumping the entire contract.

Ideally, I'd be able to have a team take on Shields' entire contract and get a low ceiling/near-ready arm, whether a potential back-of-rotation starter or a 7th/8th inning reliever.

Prospects I have interest in (in this price range):

TOR

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RHP Sean Reid-Foley (66 OVR/77 POT)
RHP John Stilson (68 OVR/74 POT)
OF D.J. Davis (58 OVR/73 POT)
OF Dwight Smith Jr. (64 OVR/69 POT)

HOU

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RHP Joe Musgrove (77 OVR/78 POT)
RHP Kyle Smith (72 OVR/73 POT)
RHP Chris Devenski (72 OVR/73 POT)
RHP Michael Feliz (72 OVR/77 POT)
RHP Jandel Gustave (63 OVR/74 POT)
3B J.D. Davis (59 OVR/74 POT)

CHC

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RHP Ryan Williams (72 OVR/69 POT)
RHP Dallas Beeler (69 OVR/70 POT)
RHP Corey Black (74 OVR/74 POT)
RHP Carl Edwards Jr. (73 OVR/76 POT)
C Taylor Davis (67 OVR/70 POT)
2B Arismendy Alcantara (78 OVR/74 POT)
3B Jeimer Candelario (68 OVR/75 POT)

I am mainly looking for feedback on (1) is it feasible to dump the entire contract and (2) which team/prospect(s) looks like the best fit?

I feel like putting the entire contract of Shields in the lap of the Blue Jays is too much as they'll already be having their hands full by trying to resign both Bautista and Encarnacion this winter.

However, Houston could probably open up their payroll as their window to compete just came open last year. Feliz and Davis for Shields?

The Cubs are a really good option and they'd have no problem whatsoever absorbing the contract. Edwards and Alcantara for Shields?

[skow05]

MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

Hey everyone -

I am looking to acquire Garrett Richards from LAA near the deadline.

LAA is currently 41-54, last place, 8 gb in the AL West, 9.5 gb in the AL WC.

Richards 2016 (84 ovr / 87 pot): 5-3, 4.33 era, 4.37 fip, 1.01 war, 1.37 whip, 7.83 k/9, 3.13 bb/9.

Richards is under contract in 2016 for $6.4m and has one final arb year in 2017 before becoming a FA.

As the Cubs, we sit at 60-34, first place, 10 games ahead of the 2nd place Cardinals. Kyle Hendricks has been a disappointment in the 5th starter spot and is currently working things out in AAA. I would like to fortify the rotation for the 2nd half with the addition of Richards.

What do we think LAA would require? I'm guessing near MLB ready talent would be their desire since they have a window of competition in the next few years while rostering one of the best players in baseball.

Would a package around CJ Edwards/Pierce Johnson + Billy McKinney be sufficient?

CJ Edwards AAA 2016 (71 ovr / 78 pot): 2.61 era, 2.45 fip, 1.05 whip, 8.29 k/9

Pierce Johnson AAA 2016 (75 ovr / 75 pot): 5-8, 4.20 era, 3.45 fip, 1.42 whip, 8.91 k/9

Billy McKinney AA 2016 (65 ovr / 77 pot): .738 ops

Thanks for any input!

Edit: Yes, I'd be willing to dip into my bank of lower level B Potential prospects (Cease / Underwood / Torres / Happ) if necessary. I'm just not sure I need to, given Richards performance.

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[AC]

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Jays wouldn't deal SRF and don't have $$

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Jays wouldn't deal SRF and don't have $$

Fair point. I am considering them for Cashner...what do you think about a Cashner deal to TOR in general? I will post his stats/info in a bit.

[CBoller1331]

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Richards 2016 (84 ovr / 87 pot): 5-3, 4.33 era, 4.37 fip, 1.01 war, 1.37 whip, 7.83 k/9, 3.13 bb/9.

CJ Edwards AAA 2016 (71 ovr / 78 pot): 2.61 era, 2.45 fip, 1.05 whip, 8.29 k/9

Pierce Johnson AAA 2016 (75 ovr / 75 pot): 5-8, 4.20 era, 3.45 fip, 1.42 whip, 8.91 k/9

Billy McKinney AA 2016 (65 ovr / 77 pot): .738 ops

Thanks for any input!

Edit: Yes, I'd be willing to dip into my bank of lower level B Potential prospects (Cease / Underwood / Torres / Happ) if necessary. I'm just not sure I need to, given Richards performance.

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Torres/Happ + Underwood/Cease + McKinney

Honestly, you may even need build a package around Soler/Baez to get this deal done

Even though Richards isn't performing like a top of the rotation starter, he's young and controllable. Plus the Angels don't really have any incentive to trade him unless they get a really good package.

[skow05]

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Torres/Happ + Underwood/Cease + McKinney



Honestly, you may even need build a package around Soler/Baez to get this deal done



Even though Richards isn't performing like a top of the rotation starter, he's young and controllable. Plus the Angels don't really have any incentive to trade him unless they get a really good package.

Thanks for the reply and giving me a starting point for what a package should look like. Looks like I was severely undervaluing what 1.5 years of Richards would cost me.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Kind of a long winded post, but, hear me out...

Currently sitting 10-8 in my fantasy draft season with the Mets and looking to shake things up.

The Padres are out of contention as I write this; their record is 5-13. I'm thinking about prying a young, sweet-swinging right fielder by the name of Tony Gwynn from their grasps and I have a piece they are interested in in Orlando Cepeda. Let me preface by saying I know the Padres, who just so happened to draft Gwynn in a fantasy draft, would probably NEVER trade him (especially the younger, '87 version) but, this is a fantasy season and Gwynn is one of my all time favorite players.

The Friars are willing to do a Gwynn, Carlton Fisk, add-in for Cepeda, Jason Heyward/Yan Gomes, add-in.

Realistically speaking, how far off is a Cepeda for Gwynn swap straight up? I'd love to get Fisk in the deal as well as he is currently hitting under the Mendoza line and has something like 1 HR and 3 RBI. Gwynn isn't doing much better, hovering around .200. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger later today but would like to ask around first.


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My main point would be that I don't think 5-13 makes any team out of contention. I know this is a fantasy franchise, so realism is already out the window, but I would wait on this. The values also depend on what point these players are at in their careers, for Cepeda and Fisk. If it's '77 Fisk and '87 Gwynn, that's at the peak of both of their careers and you'd be flatly rejected. Stats don't really matter 18 games into the season.

In terms of long-term value, Gwynn was a 65 WAR player and Cepeda was a 50 WAR player. Both had different skill sets so they are hard to compare. Fisk was a 68 WAR player, although, he was mostly just a really good player for a long, long time rather than an all-timer. Getting both Gwynn and Fisk for Cepeda+ would most likely not be feasible.

Hey everyone -

I am looking to acquire Garrett Richards from LAA near the deadline.

LAA is currently 41-54, last place, 8 gb in the AL West, 9.5 gb in the AL WC.

Richards 2016 (84 ovr / 87 pot): 5-3, 4.33 era, 4.37 fip, 1.01 war, 1.37 whip, 7.83 k/9, 3.13 bb/9.

Richards is under contract in 2016 for $6.4m and has one final arb year in 2017 before becoming a FA.

As the Cubs, we sit at 60-34, first place, 10 games ahead of the 2nd place Cardinals. Kyle Hendricks has been a disappointment in the 5th starter spot and is currently working things out in AAA. I would like to fortify the rotation for the 2nd half with the addition of Richards.

What do we think LAA would require? I'm guessing near MLB ready talent would be their desire since they have a window of competition in the next few years while rostering one of the best players in baseball.

Would a package around CJ Edwards/Pierce Johnson + Billy McKinney be sufficient?

CJ Edwards AAA 2016 (71 ovr / 78 pot): 2.61 era, 2.45 fip, 1.05 whip, 8.29 k/9

Pierce Johnson AAA 2016 (75 ovr / 75 pot): 5-8, 4.20 era, 3.45 fip, 1.42 whip, 8.91 k/9

Billy McKinney AA 2016 (65 ovr / 77 pot): .738 ops

Thanks for any input!

Edit: Yes, I'd be willing to dip into my bank of lower level B Potential prospects (Cease / Underwood / Torres / Happ) if necessary. I'm just not sure I need to, given Richards performance.

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No, that wouldn't be enough for Richards. It's a seller's market and G-Rich has shown a lot of potential and isn't a free agent until 2018. Even if his stats are ho-hum (he seems to be replicating his 2015 season in your franchise pretty closely looking at those rates), him going from AL-NL will be favorable and I'm guessing you are already salivating over his ratings (hence wanting to trade for him). That would cost you big time.

You're going to need to add in 2 of Happ/Almora/Torres/Jimenez/Underwood or 1 of Schwarber/Baez/Soler along with an arm that's near ready for the majors (someone like Dallas Beeler or Eric Jokisch if you have them). Just look at what Pomeranz fetched (a Top 15 prospect) and Pomeranz has the same amount of team control, but with a spottier history.

[skow05]

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No, that wouldn't be enough for Richards. It's a seller's market and G-Rich has shown a lot of potential and isn't a free agent until 2019. Even if his stats are ho-hum (he seems to be replicating his 2015 season in your franchise pretty closely looking at those rates), him going from AL-NL will be favorable and I'm guessing you are already salivating over his ratings (hence wanting to trade for him). That would cost you big time.



You're going to need to add in 2 of Happ/Almora/Torres/Jimenez/Underwood or 1 of Schwarber/Baez/Soler along with an arm that's near ready for the majors (someone like Dallas Beeler or Eric Jokisch if you have them). Just look at what Pomeranz fetched (a Top 15 prospect) and Pomeranz has the same amount of team control, but with a spottier history.

Great example with Pomeranz, that would have given me a good comp for where to start with value. I appreciate it fellas!

[AC]

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Fair point. I am considering them for Cashner...what do you think about a Cashner deal to TOR in general? I will post his stats/info in a bit.

Ehh Cashner isn't really that good. Not a kind of guy I can see ending up in Toronto

[Daonlyjmo7]

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WTNY-

As we saw from the IRL Shields trade, the Padres covered some of the contract and still didn't get much prospect value. As you mentioned the Blue Jays ERA, that would be a prime fit. I don't think the Astros would make another trade with you for a starter, but the Cubs could also be a fit. I think those are the two teams.

If you wanted to send the full contract without covering any, I would say you could get Williams/Beeler and Davis from the Cubs but I don't see the Blue Jays wanting him if they had to cover all of it. If you covered some, depending on how much, you could probably get Candelario and Williams/Beeler from the Cubs or Stilson and Davis from the Jays.

If the Astros ERA really is bad enough, maybe you could pull of another deal. You would definitely have to cover some of Shields' contract, but a package of Smith/Devenski and Davis/Gustave would be the most realistic package of all.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Great example with Pomeranz, that would have given me a good comp for where to start with value. I appreciate it fellas!

To be more specific, if I were the Angels I would want Torres/Happ/Vogelbach. Especially because I don't see the Cubs dealing one of Baez/Soler/Schwarber. And maybe you could replace Vogelbach for someone around his level if you prefer, but I have a prospect crush on him lol. He is going to be a beast for the Mariners.