MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Tmizzle]

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I am going to duplicate the Nunez deal for Adalberto Mejia. In real life Nunez has an option for next year so because of that I wasn't going to copy the deal but in the game Nunez is a FA. This also gives Jorge Polanco a chance to stay on the roster when Dozer comes back from DL which is soon.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Re-reading my posts I can see the confussion so my apologies. Bad idea to make posts on 3 hours of sleep lol.

Back on the topic though any suggestions for a good Lucroy trade?

Colin Moran (A)
Tony Kemp (A)
Kyle Tucker (B)
Joe Musgrove (B)
Jon Singleton (B) - .312/.376/.584 - 5 HR - 10 RBI (77 AB)
Tyler White (B) - Showed flashes of being very good in MLB batted over .300 for the first month before being demoted. Was still producing but not as much as I wanted.
David Paulino (B)
J.D. Davis (B)

Would really like to move Singleton because I think I would be selling high as I just dont see his stats being sustainable.

Couple of things here...one, Tony Kemp really, really shouldn't have A POT. I would double check that. He's a speed and contact 5'6" guy with no power and questionable defense. He's verging on non-prospect. Any roster having him as an A POT...well...I think that's not good.

Secondly, I think you actually might be able to pull this off using only those pieces, but you may want to wait until later tonight to see what the Lucroy trade actually is and model your offer after that. It sounds like Lucroy is only hours from being dealt to either Cleveland or the Mets.

I think the Brewers would love to plug in Moran at 3B. I also think one of Musgrove/Paulino would slot in nicely as a third piece. I'm not so sure that one of J.D. Davis/Singleton/White/Kyle Tucker would be enough as the secondary piece though.

Colin Moran + Kyle Tucker + Joe Musgrove is a reasonable offer for Lucroy, imo. You could add in Singleton or Max Stassi as a 4th piece also.

Looking to replicate the Carter Capps trade in my Padres franchise, but I have already dealt Cashner. I feel like Naylor would definetly not be shipped away if it didn't include Cashner. Also, then the Padres (me) more or less wouldn't want Cosart. Is it fair to say that if the deal was Capps/Castillo for Rea/Guerrero is fair in real world terms?

If you guys want the stats to gauge on this, I will definitely give them (I am at work while posting this), but I am judging this similarly to what I did (and WTNY did) with the Pomeranz trade. Basically I am asking that is it fair the say that Cosart/Naylor was for Cashner and the rest was for Capps/Castillo or not. I admit, it sounds a little in my favor, but that could just be because I think the deal was overall way better for the Padres (similarly to the Pomeranz deal). If not, I am plenty open to adding upon the trade. If you guys don't see Capps being moved at all without Cashner even considering the trade that went down IRL, I'll just move Rea or Guerrero in a deal with Castillo.

Thanks in advance for the help.

You could always undo your Cashner trade if you wanted to get it just right.

Otherwise, you could add in a small piece like Brett Wallace or Travis Jankowski it balance it out.

[scooterperpetual]

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Thanks I will double check Kemp it caught me by surprise too. I'm using a 40 man version of the midseadon update from OSFM. I remember Kemp being A potential earlier in the year so maybe that has something to do with it. but I will download the normal OSFM rosters tonight and see what his potential is there.




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[WaitTilNextYear]

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What's the value in terms of prospects for Wil Myers ( 27 years old, 87 OVR A potential?

This is my continuation from The Show 15 so it's about 2 years ahead of real life. Regradless I'm the Mets so I'm assuming it would start with Matz at the very least. Maybe a low A or a couple of high B's ? I have an abundance of prospects specifically pitching prospects so really no price is to high lol. SD could also really use some pitching. If you guys need stats I can provide that as well.

As always I appreciate any and all help

Well granted that you haven't given us any stats, I would think that it's more deGrom than Matz to get Myers.

[KBLover]

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What's the value in terms of prospects for Wil Myers ( 27 years old, 87 OVR A potential?

This is my continuation from The Show 15 so it's about 2 years ahead of real life. Regradless I'm the Mets so I'm assuming it would start with Matz at the very least. Maybe a low A or a couple of high B's ? I have an abundance of prospects specifically pitching prospects so really no price is to high lol. SD could also really use some pitching. If you guys need stats I can provide that as well.

As always I appreciate any and all help

Given you're in the future (I am as well, one six years "ahead"), stats and such are even more important (everyone should always give stats, ratings, and context, imo, but especially for franchises in the future).

[Mattchu12]

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Alright, I'm at the trade deadline with the Yankees, and I'm planning to do a bit of a Hybrid Selling/Buying since I'm within shouting distance of a spot in the AL Wild Card. I haven't done the Chapman trade yet because I think I'm going to need him to make some deals.

Here are my top targets:

Joe Ross: 8-9, 3.82 ERA, 7.5 K/9, 2.4 BB/9 with a 2.54 WAR

Nationals are up four games in the NL East, and Ross has been their worst starter so far by ERA and WAR, the rest have been great. Both Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez are killing it at Triple-A and deserve the call-up. The bullpen lacks a lockdown reliever, their best is Shawn Kelley, and they really struggle at 1B and LF.

Joey Gallo: .225/.326/.439 with 15 HR, 35 RBI, 0 SB and a 1.79 WAR

Rangers are second in the Wild Card, and have really struggled outside of Cole Hamels and Yu Darvish in the rotation. The bullpen has been solid with Diekmann and Tolleson doing most of the heavy lifting. Outside of Prince Fielder (MVP caliber season), the offense has struggled for the most part. Moreland and Mazara are probably the second and third best hitters, with the rest having average seasons at best.

David Robertson: 2-2, 3.69 ERA, 13.1 K/9, 4.3 BB/9 with a 0.39 WAR

White Sox are way out of it, legit one of the worst teams in baseball, and they have at least three relievers that could slide into the closer's role if Robertson goes. I'd like to overpay to have the White Sox eat some of his salary if possible, but that'll depend on the other two trades.

My best preferred trade pieces:

Aroldis Chapman: 1-1, 0.61 ERA, 12.9 K/9, 4.6 BB/9 with a 0.94 WAR
Dellin Betances: 4-0, 1.15 ERA, 11.3 K/9, 2.1 BB/9 with a 1.24 WAR
Nathan Eovaldi: 7-11, 3.70 ERA, 10.5 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 with a 3.08 WAR
Michael Pineda: 6-13, 5.11 ERA, 8.6 K/9, 1.8 BB/9 with a 2.62 WAR
Brian McCann: .278/.355/.611 with 27 HR, 65 RBI, 3 SB and a 4.59 WAR
Jacoby Ellsbury: .280/.337/.447 with 11 HR, 31 RBI, 42 SB and a 2.20 WAR
Chase Headley: .268/.339/.427 with 11 HR, 43 RBI, 6 SB and a 1.83 WAR
Brett Gardner: .275/.332/.378 with 5 HR, 20 RBI, 36 SB and a 1.56 WAR
Carlos Beltran: .234/315/.437 with 16 HR, 38 RBI, 0 SB and a 1.42 WAR


Willing to eat money in trades, and I'd be willing to deal most of my prospects, though would prefer to keep Aaron Judge. Thoughts on any potential deals?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Alright, I'm at the trade deadline with the Yankees, and I'm planning to do a bit of a Hybrid Selling/Buying since I'm within shouting distance of a spot in the AL Wild Card. I haven't done the Chapman trade yet because I think I'm going to need him to make some deals.

Here are my top targets:

Joe Ross: 8-9, 3.82 ERA, 7.5 K/9, 2.4 BB/9 with a 2.54 WAR

Nationals are up four games in the NL East, and Ross has been their worst starter so far by ERA and WAR, the rest have been great. Both Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez are killing it at Triple-A and deserve the call-up. The bullpen lacks a lockdown reliever, their best is Shawn Kelley, and they really struggle at 1B and LF.

Joey Gallo: .225/.326/.439 with 15 HR, 35 RBI, 0 SB and a 1.79 WAR

Rangers are second in the Wild Card, and have really struggled outside of Cole Hamels and Yu Darvish in the rotation. The bullpen has been solid with Diekmann and Tolleson doing most of the heavy lifting. Outside of Prince Fielder (MVP caliber season), the offense has struggled for the most part. Moreland and Mazara are probably the second and third best hitters, with the rest having average seasons at best.

David Robertson: 2-2, 3.69 ERA, 13.1 K/9, 4.3 BB/9 with a 0.39 WAR

White Sox are way out of it, legit one of the worst teams in baseball, and they have at least three relievers that could slide into the closer's role if Robertson goes. I'd like to overpay to have the White Sox eat some of his salary if possible, but that'll depend on the other two trades.

My best preferred trade pieces:

Aroldis Chapman: 1-1, 0.61 ERA, 12.9 K/9, 4.6 BB/9 with a 0.94 WAR
Dellin Betances: 4-0, 1.15 ERA, 11.3 K/9, 2.1 BB/9 with a 1.24 WAR
Nathan Eovaldi: 7-11, 3.70 ERA, 10.5 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 with a 3.08 WAR
Michael Pineda: 6-13, 5.11 ERA, 8.6 K/9, 1.8 BB/9 with a 2.62 WAR
Brian McCann: .278/.355/.611 with 27 HR, 65 RBI, 3 SB and a 4.59 WAR
Jacoby Ellsbury: .280/.337/.447 with 11 HR, 31 RBI, 42 SB and a 2.20 WAR
Chase Headley: .268/.339/.427 with 11 HR, 43 RBI, 6 SB and a 1.83 WAR
Brett Gardner: .275/.332/.378 with 5 HR, 20 RBI, 36 SB and a 1.56 WAR
Carlos Beltran: .234/315/.437 with 16 HR, 38 RBI, 0 SB and a 1.42 WAR


Willing to eat money in trades, and I'd be willing to deal most of my prospects, though would prefer to keep Aaron Judge. Thoughts on any potential deals?

Bettances can get you Ross or Gallo. He's the most valuable reliever in baseball.

[Mattchu12]

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Bettances can get you Ross or Gallo. He's the most valuable reliever in baseball.

I was honestly thinking of the frameworks Betances for Gallo and Chapman + Paid Down Ellsbury for Ross. Wasn't sure if it would be enough.

[CBoller1331]

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I was honestly thinking of the frameworks Betances for Gallo and Chapman + Paid Down Ellsbury for Ross. Wasn't sure if it would be enough.

Betances + Eovaldi for Gallo + another prospect could work

Gallo might be slightly more valuable than Betances....but with Dellin pitching like that the Rangers would probably give Gallo for him straight up. But if you feel a little guilty for potential ripping of the CPU a bit, then add Eovaldi and another piece to try to even it out

Also assuming the Rangers need a catcher...which may not be the case in your franchise....you'd get a pretty big haul with Betances + McCann with the way he's playing

[KnickNation17]

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Well granted that you haven't given us any stats, I would think that it's more deGrom than Matz to get Myers.

Given you're in the future (I am as well, one six years "ahead"), stats and such are even more important (everyone should always give stats, ratings, and context, imo, but especially for franchises in the future).

That makes sense my bad. Been reading this thread for years but I'm still learning lol.

Myers stats are as such: .313/.344/.476 with 14 HR, 37 RBI, .820 OPS, 1.86 WAR.

Matz 26 years old, 82 OVR, 86 potenital ( 2nd year in the majors ): 8-6, 4.63 ERA, 107.0 IP, 0.36 WHIP, 8.50 K/9, 0.93 BB/9, 3.76 WAR

I don't have Degrom any more I traded him away in a deal that I discussed in last year's thread. However, I still have plenty of other pitchers to deal.

Felipo Rivero ( Also 26 years old, 82 OVR, 91 potential is one. I got him during the first year of my franchise in a trade I used last year's spreadsheet to help me facilitate. He's currently in AAA but here are his numbers down there:

10-4 , 2.22 ERA, 141.2 IP, 1.01 WHIP, 163 SO, 10.36 K/9.

Both WAR and BB/9 say 0.00. 1 negative about Rivero, he's 0-8 with a 5.88 for his career is the big leagues. I just dont have room for him in the big leagues but I don't think his career numbers reflect what he would do in a full season. Some of those numbers are a result of my own struggles.

Another is Gabriel Yona ( 24 years old, 81 OVR, 89 potential also in AAA)

11-3, 2.45 ERA, 128.2 IP, 1.14 WHIP, 101 SO, 7.06 K/9 ( Also no WAR, or BB/9)

I also have Montero still and he's 27, 81 OVR, 81 potential, pitching as the long man out of the bullpen in the majors.

4-1, 4.08 ERA, 39.2 IP, 0.23 WHIP, 1.76 WAR, 9.98 K/9, 0.23 BB/9.

I have other younger highly rated prospects but I thought some combo of these guys could get it done. Maybe a lower rated hitting prospect as a throw in.

Thanks for the quick responses btw.

[Mattchu12]

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Betances + Eovaldi for Gallo + another prospect could work

Gallo might be slightly more valuable than Betances....but with Dellin pitching like that the Rangers would probably give Gallo for him straight up. But if you feel a little guilty for potential ripping of the CPU a bit, then add Eovaldi and another piece to try to even it out

Also assuming the Rangers need a catcher...which may not be the case in your franchise....you'd get a pretty big haul with Betances + McCann with the way he's playing

I would be open to a Betances + McCann swap, but I'd really have to like what I got back. I'm not completely giving up on 2016 even with these moves just because I think Miller + Robertson can be very effective. I called up Sanchez for a bit and didn't hit super well with him, but an infield of Sanchez-Bird-Castro-Gregorius-Gallo is like the dream right there for a rebuild.

Is Chapman + Eovaldi for Gallo and Betances + Ellsbury (paid down) for Ross + Werth a better use of chips?

[redsox4evur]

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Couple of things here...one, Tony Kemp really, really shouldn't have A POT. I would double check that. He's a speed and contact 5'6" guy with no power and questionable defense. He's verging on non-prospect. Any roster having him as an A POT...well...I think that's not good.

Secondly, I think you actually might be able to pull this off using only those pieces, but you may want to wait until later tonight to see what the Lucroy trade actually is and model your offer after that. It sounds like Lucroy is only hours from being dealt to either Cleveland or the Mets.

I think the Brewers would love to plug in Moran at 3B. I also think one of Musgrove/Paulino would slot in nicely as a third piece. I'm not so sure that one of J.D. Davis/Singleton/White/Kyle Tucker would be enough as the secondary piece though.

Colin Moran + Kyle Tucker + Joe Musgrove is a reasonable offer for Lucroy, imo. You could add in Singleton or Max Stassi as a 4th piece also.



You could always undo your Cashner trade if you wanted to get it just right.

Otherwise, you could add in a small piece like Brett Wallace or Travis Jankowski it balance it out.

Yea he is probably using OSFM V5. Because that's what I am using and I think Kemp was like a 72 and A potential.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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I would be open to a Betances + McCann swap, but I'd really have to like what I got back. I'm not completely giving up on 2016 even with these moves just because I think Miller + Robertson can be very effective. I called up Sanchez for a bit and didn't hit super well with him, but an infield of Sanchez-Bird-Castro-Gregorius-Gallo is like the dream right there for a rebuild.

Is Chapman + Eovaldi for Gallo and Betances + Ellsbury (paid down) for Ross + Werth a better use of chips?

I don't really see teams taking you up on Ellsbury, paid down or not.

Betances for Ross + small 2nd piece (Michael Taylor?) would probably work just on value. But, even if Ross has been their "worst starter," 2.5 WAR is not at all bad. His stats are in fact good. I'm not sure the timing of this deal makes sense for them. Betances for Giolito+ might make more sense. Or waiting for the offseason to do Betances for Ross.

You could do the real life Chapman deal with the Cubs, eh?

McCann + Eovaldi would probably get you Gallo with those stats they have. I mean they've combined for nearly 8 WAR already at the trade deadline.

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Is Chapman + Eovaldi for Gallo and Betances + Ellsbury (paid down) for Ross + Werth a better use of chips?

As the Rangers, I personally wouldn't do that trade. As the Nats, I probably would, but it's iffy. I would want Betances as the Rangers. If I were you, I would send Betances to the Rangers for Gallo and take advantage of the Miller (in this case replacing him with Chapman) for Giolito rumor.

[kenp86]

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Rebuilding the Yanks. Just got to off season #1. Just DFAd Ellsbury after a 4 hr/31 rbi/.241 avg/3.28 war in 539 AB year. What's the value of Gardner? 17/75/.287/4.46 WAR?

Btw, sorry for the repost but it got burried with the Cubs trade