Something seems off with directional hitting and the PCI. Ive gone into practice mode and turned on swing/pitch info. No matter what the timing of my swing is the pci always stays in the same spot, which is right down the middle. If i get perfect timing on a pitch, ill either roll over it(if its down) or pop it up(if its up). Im not complaining that I should completely mash every pitch I get good timing on. Im more concerned that the pci isnt moving and every ball I put in play reflects the PCI not moving and the final pitch location. I know that in 15 the pci would move based on player ratings and timing of the pitch, however it seems like its just stuck in the middle of the plate. And no, im not accidentally using zone hitting.
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Yeah I had this as well. I just assumed it was because they didn't want to show where the PCI actually went but your right the results do seem to show that the PCI just stays in the middle. AllI've done so far is batting practice though it may not be true in game will find out later. -
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Wondered this myself, however wondered if it was a design decision so it doesnt show the PCI miles away from a ball you still hit.
I dunno, id like more info on it.Comment
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I don't remember the PCI changing positions on 15? I thought it would only show it in the feedback if you we're using zone hitting, otherwise it would just stay in the middle no matter what you were doingComment
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I tried directional hitting for a couple of games and realized it was just like the past few iterations and went back to zone hitting. It just seems to me that from '13 onward, timing hitting has just been off.est 1978
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I actually came on board to say how well Directional Hitting is working this year! Alot more pulled balls, alot more liners falling for hits, better timing.
When I turn on Swing Info I see what you guys are saying, but it is not just covering the center part of the plate. Its actually covering the entire strike zone (minus the extreme corners, and very high and very low in the zone, but you can still make contact here but less solid), and I would think thats how it is with Directional/Timing Hitting.
Essentially the "CPU is aiming for you", so they cover the entire plate and do not "move" PCI to determine good contact. They cover entire plate and let timing plus direction influence contact type and hit direction. This to me represents how baseball really is...I have posted before, when you hit in real life you do not "aim the bat", you cover the entire zone with your eye, and let your hand/eye, timing, and swing type determine contact point and ball direction.
...this is exactly that.
When you use a power swing notice that the PCI shrinks more towards center of plate, but still covers a large portion, so pitches towards edges would be less likely to make contact.
What you need to remember there is no PCI in Directional Hitting, in fact in MLB 15 the PCI didn't even show in Directional Hitting in the Swing Info at all if I remember correctly, so the fact they brought it back is surprising.Last edited by El_MaYiMbE; 03-29-2016, 01:21 PM.Comment
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The only difference, El_MaYiMbE, is that this game probably still has yet to recreate solid contact out of the zone. You'll see hits in a ball game all of the time on pitches that are not strikes, even home runs. Okay, not all of the time, but this game punishes you severely for swinging at pitches that are for sure off the plate, etc.
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You can still hit balls out of the zone or better yet out of the PCI because in that sense it still does function like zone hitting w/ PCI.
Lets say you leave your PCI unmoved in zone hitting, and its aimed right at middle of plate. Then the pitch comes in up in the zone...what would happen? You would get under the ball. In zone thats how its designed, its almost like inverting crosshairs in a FPS. You aim DOWN to get under ball, so the ball can go UP
In Directional Hitting this is not necessary. You get under the ball, by pulling up on the stick and telling batter where you want the ball to go, not where you want him to swing, so in this case the PCI is covering the entire strike zone, because you can try and get under any pitch but it is the pitches location, timing, and batter attribute that determines if your intended action will be completed. Going with a pitch will result in better result than trying to pull an outside pitch (or get a low pitch in the air).
With all that being said, there is still an area of wiggle room. If the pitch is outside the zone and I swing, it does not mean I will swing and miss, it just means I will put less of a good swing on it. Just like in real life...As you mentioned you do see hits sometimes on bad pitches, you do in The Show as well. But most times you see good hits on balls in heart of plate, in the strike zone, where the batter can influence the ball the most.
Also Timing plays biggest factor in Directional Hitting.
When you are late the "PCI" is smaller, when you have good timing it is bigger.
This in essence leaves little room for error when you are late and balls are placed on the corners, but gives you more room for error when balls are in middle as PCI shrinks towards center. This is exaggerated even more when using power swing. However, should pitcher leave ball down middle, where PCI is zoning in on even if you are a little late you can handle that pitch better. But its still not that simple...if you are pulling with stick, but late on swing you have a paradox...you cannot pull a pitch that you are late on with power, or go with a pitch you are early on....
This seems alot more realistic and complex than people give it credit for. It represents more a true at-bat IMOLast edited by El_MaYiMbE; 03-29-2016, 01:59 PM.Comment
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Directional definitely has a different feel. Ive been hitting all morning and ive learned i cant necessarily trust the timing feedback. Ive used timing/directional on HOF default the past 2 years and im definitely having trouble trying to figure out how to make this hitting mechanic work on HOF right now.Comment
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Well I just switched over to pure analog and I'm having the results I was expecting from directional, plus the PCI is moving. I think something is wrong with directional. Too bad because I would prefer to use it.Comment
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Pitches are a little slower this year, so it will take some time to get used to it again. But I am noticing more solid hits, more hits in gap, more pulled hits (slower pitches seem to help this), and better ABs when you do get "good timing".
Still early, but I think Directional Hitting has been improved from my small sample size. Additionally, above I explained the original topic, of PCI not moving and how it works...I believe that piece is a non-issue. I do not want to turn this thread into whats better Zone vs Directional...plenty of that around, but I did want to come in and defend Directional Hitting, because there are some misconceptions out there on how its used and how it impacts game.
It is a different playing style, that in MY opinion, tend to think is more realistic, so I understand it takes time to get used to. I know this first hand because I never got used to Zone Hitting and have appreciated game much more with Directional last 2 yrs.Last edited by El_MaYiMbE; 03-29-2016, 02:10 PM.Comment
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