Baserunning

[p00p1]

Re: Baserunning

https://youtu.be/SfGnAvI8ByQ

Classic baserunning, auto baserunning, post patch.. and this crap still happens.

(Posted for those that seem to think it's been fixed)

Don't know what to tell you, but looking at the video, there is R1 input being sent (attaching screenshot). I was doing this myself and didn't believe it was my finger, but after changing the way I placed my index finger, I don't get the issue anymore.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: Baserunning

More video evidence:

3-2 count, 2 outs, runners on 1st and 2nd. There is a big issue when sending the runners which you will always do in this situation. I cannot be any faster when inputting the Home command but it's irrelevant in this case.

There never should've been a slide into 3rd to begin with. This hit cleared the infield and fielders with no doubt, yet the slide still happened. I've seen posts lately that theorized it was a bouncer through the infield or close to being caught that would cause this, but the 2B never even goes into a fielding animation.

For those of you who have never seen this, well, good for you. Disregard the mess after the runner slides into 3rd...I tried to remedy with L1 taps and manual inputs so who knows what actually happened after that point.

If someone can tell me how to embed the video I'll edit the post to do so I apologize for just the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzO-uxFQU20

In the video at the :05 mark you sent the guy running from second (triangle) to third along with the guy on first (circle) to third base as well.

[Kodii Rockets]

Re: Baserunning

In the video at the :05 mark you sent the guy running from second (triangle) to third along with the guy on first (circle) to third base as well.

Thanks for the hard work, as well as input Ramone, as always.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, is the slide at 3rd by the runner from second (triangle) supposed to happen?

[p00p1]

Re: Baserunning

Are there still bugs specific to autobaserunning, or are the remaining issues all related to the sliding logic?

[cas850]

Re: Baserunning

In the video at the :05 mark you sent the guy running from second (triangle) to third along with the guy on first (circle) to third base as well.

To be thorough, before the pitch I hit L2 to send the runners since it was full count and two outs.

Immediately after contact, I input Triangle-Down, and Circle-Left to send the runner from 2nd to home and the runner from first to third.

Unfortunately the game never registered my input for the runner going 2nd-3rd because sliding assist kicks in. The input for the runner going 1st-3rd seems to work well though.

Sorry I'm sure this is confusing, but I don't know how else to recap what happened. Thanks for the response and time as well.

[lowkey_loc]

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Well Everyone seems to be having a problem with the base-running even after the patch. I've been playing every game and I've almost completed spring training. Been taking my time hoping they will have a fix by the time I'm finished. The question is are they going to fix the issue? and if not, is it worth continuing a franchise knowing that your games can be decided by base running issues? This really sucks because I'm enjoying the game other than that.

[countryboy]

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Well Everyone seems to be having a problem with the base-running even after the patch. I've been playing every game and I've almost completed spring training. Been taking my time hoping they will have a fix by the time I'm finished. The question is are they going to fix the issue? and if not, is it worth continuing a franchise knowing that your games can be decided by base running issues? This really sucks because I'm enjoying the game other than that.

Maybe you can use the remaining ST games, providing you have some, and try to get used to using manual/assisted baserunning.

I haven't had any issues with assisted/manual baserunning.

[sl8b]

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Here is a video of a manage only mode game. Runners on 2nd and 3rd, I call the squeeze, the runner on 3rd scores and after getting halfway to 3rd, the runner on 2nd goes back to 2nd. The bunt was to the first base side, but they had no play at 3rd so I think it was the bug you guys have been talking about.

I play some, manage some and I have used manual (default) baserunning as well as auto. When I first read this thread I thought either you guys were touching the R1 button or you were lying, and then this happened! So my apologies for thinking the worst!

Should I submit this or can it be explained?

https://youtu.be/DxAoKBfjoBY

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[Armor and Sword]

Re: Baserunning

It was in last years game too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3QJl8m_J0I

Okay, so then why doesnt assisted sliding kick in for the runner on 1st going to 2nd? Why is it only at 3rd?

Beats the **** out of me.

And like Countryboy amazingly I have not had a single issue with assisted/manual/default base running.

Guess I have been lucky.

[bcruise]

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Here is a video of a manage only mode game. Runners on 2nd and 3rd, I call the squeeze, the runner on 3rd scores and after getting halfway to 3rd, the runner on 2nd goes back to 2nd. The bunt was to the first base side, but they had no play at 3rd so I think it was the bug you guys have been talking about.

I play some, manage some and I have used manual (default) baserunning as well as auto. When I first read this thread I thought either you guys were touching the R1 button or you were lying, and then this happened! So my apologies for thinking the worst!

Should I submit this or can it be explained?

https://youtu.be/DxAoKBfjoBY

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It does seem like the same thing, only it's interesting that the 3rd base runner actually finished scoring and didn't go back to 3rd. I would have thought that, if it was exactly the same thing as the other examples, that he would have gone back to 3rd. Meanwhile, the instant contact is made the 2B runner plants and goes back to 2nd. That's exactly the same as the other cases posted here, and the only reason it wasn't a slide is because he was halfway between 2nd and 3rd when he turned back.

But, more importantly than that....something is very wrong here. The L-Stick icon in the middle of the baserunning display is supposed to signify that manual baserunning is activated - but that's not supposed to be possible in Manage Mode. As far as I know you should never see that in Manage Only mode, because you don't control the baserunning manually (except by directing a runner to steal through the menus). That much is definitely a bug.

So, although on the surface this looks like AI, it's ultimately the same thing as before - for whatever reason, manual baserunning was activated (again, the L Stick icon appearing indicates that) and overrided the current AI decision. In this case, that activation was completely out of the user's control - there's absolutely no chance this was triggered by user error. It's not too big a stretch to think this could be happening exactly the same thing for the other cases where the divebacks have happened, be it auto baserunning, manual, or manage-only.

In short, I think it backs up what I was suggesting about some sort of internal input problem, one that is out of the user's control. It would be a perfect match if that 3rd base runner hadn't scored, but it still matches up with that theory pretty well IMO.

Thanks for posting that. Very eye-opening.

[lowkey_loc]

Re: Baserunning

Maybe you can use the remaining ST games, providing you have some, and try to get used to using manual/assisted baserunning.

I haven't had any issues with assisted/manual baserunning.

Most definitely....I just find that sometimes it doesn't respond to my commands the way it should. Got 8 games left, hopefully I can master it.

[bcruise]

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I'm going to leave that last post up, but I just noticed something that kind of blows that whole idea up - I had been using auto baserunning for the profile I was using on manage mode. That's why there was no L-stick icon. When I turned it to Assist (I call it manual sometimes), the L-Stick icon showed up for every play. It's important to know you can't change that mid-game in manage mode - it has to be set from the front-end.

Regardless, that punches a large hole in that above post since it's not conclusive proof that assisted baserunning was triggered on this play. I really don't have an answer for why the above video happened.

[sl8b]

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I'm going to leave that last post up, but I just noticed something that kind of blows that whole idea up - I had been using auto baserunning for the profile I was using on manage mode. That's why there was no L-stick icon. When I turned it to Assist (I call it manual sometimes), the L-Stick icon showed up for every play. It's important to know you can't change that mid-game in manage mode - it has to be set from the front-end.

Regardless, that punches a large hole in that above post since it's not conclusive proof that assisted baserunning was triggered on this play. I really don't have an answer for why the above video happened.

I don't think anyone does, even the dev team. I don't envy the guy that is assigned the task of figuring this out, but who knows, maybe seeing it happen in MOM will narrow it down for them.

As far as the runner from 3rd scoring while the man on 2nd went back, whatever the bug is doing possibly doesn't effect the squeeze play which is essentially a hit and run. I'm pretty much grasping at this point, but I'm going to try some hit and runs and just see if any craziness occurs.

Last question, where do I go to submit this to the dev team?

[KBLover]

Re: Baserunning

Last question, where do I go to submit this to the dev team?

Go to The Show Nation and use their Bug Reports page.

Though, when I tried to submit a bug report for a hard freeze, I kept getting "Oops something went wrong" and never could get the report submitted.

Maybe you'll have better luck.

[Steven78]

Re: Baserunning

Go to The Show Nation and use their Bug Reports page.

Though, when I tried to submit a bug report for a hard freeze, I kept getting "Oops something went wrong" and never could get the report submitted.

Maybe you'll have better luck.

So their bug report page was bugged?