AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

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  • citybythebay85
    Rookie
    • Feb 2016
    • 160

    #1

    AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

    It seems like to me that 90% of the catches made by the AI on routine flyballs are these weird sideways shoelace-type catches. It looks like the player is doing a Puig impression or lost it in the sun and catches it 2 feet off the ground. What's the deal? Can they not do a normal catch?
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52727

    #2
    Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

    I see normal catches a great deal of the time.
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    • dnr0720
      Rookie
      • Jan 2008
      • 47

      #3
      Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

      I do see this quite a bit myself

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      • LowerWolf
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2006
        • 12268

        #4
        Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

        I see it a fair amount. Not 90 percent, but it does happen a little too often probably. Every now and then it scares me that my fielder is going to actually lose the ball.

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        • bcruise
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2004
          • 23274

          #5
          Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

          I'd love to see this 90% circus catches...sounds entertaining!

          But yeah, most of my pop flies end up plain old, ordinary catches.

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          • Syce
            MVP
            • Dec 2012
            • 1386

            #6
            Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

            i find they only do it when theres 2 out already. then they do the shoelace catch.
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            • jvalverde88
              Moderator
              • Jun 2008
              • 11787

              #7
              Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

              Most of those shoelace catches are the CPU misreading flyballs, I know because I noticed those same animations when I misread flyballs too.
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              • sooner1
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1097

                #8
                Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

                They do it damn near everytime when its the 3rd out.

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                • bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23274

                  #9
                  Re: AI obsessed with making "shoelace" catches on flyballs?

                  Originally posted by sooner1
                  They do it damn near everytime when its the 3rd out.
                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  4th inning was a groundout (attempting to intentionally hit a flyball for the 3rd out of every inning isn't easy, even on directional) and there was no bottom of the 9th (score). I know the 3rd inning one is the one in question. Even taking away the moving catches, 1 out of 5 isn't what I'd call "damn near every time". Did I just get lucky?

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                  • KBLover
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12172

                    #10
                    Re: AI obsessed with making &quot;shoelace&quot; catches on flyballs?

                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    Even taking away the moving catches, 1 out of 5 isn't what I'd call "damn near every time". Did I just get lucky?
                    I don't know if you're lucky or I'm unlucky but I see it FAR more often than 1 out of 5 times at the 3rd out.

                    That would be twice a game if every third out was a flyball. See it much more than that, let alone counting both sides.

                    I don't check the CPU's ratings for defense, but I know my outfield trio is solid in defense.

                    Yelich: 78 Fielding, 77 Reaction
                    Winter: 75 Fielding, 81 Reaction
                    Harper: 70 Fielding, 74 Reaction

                    All three are playing their primary positions.

                    So if they are mis-reading balls that often...why? Not like I have 40-rated scrubs out there.
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                    • bcruise
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23274

                      #11
                      Re: AI obsessed with making &quot;shoelace&quot; catches on flyballs?

                      Originally posted by KBLover
                      I don't know if you're lucky or I'm unlucky but I see it FAR more often than 1 out of 5 times at the 3rd out.

                      That would be twice a game if every third out was a flyball. See it much more than that, let alone counting both sides.

                      I don't check the CPU's ratings for defense, but I know my outfield trio is solid in defense.

                      Yelich: 78 Fielding, 77 Reaction
                      Winter: 75 Fielding, 81 Reaction
                      Harper: 70 Fielding, 74 Reaction

                      All three are playing their primary positions.

                      So if they are mis-reading balls that often...why? Not like I have 40-rated scrubs out there.
                      Yeah, I don't really think it's about misreads. Bruce, the one who did the catch in my video, is 81 fielding and just parked under the ball until the animation takes over. Nor do I think it's related to having runners on or not - both of the "showy" catches (1st inning and 3rd) were with runners on.

                      Dunno - All I'm saying is that I haven't had it happen at the frequency where I would consider it a problem. And I could post more videos showing that, although I'd like to see one from the other side so I can understand exactly what catches you guys are seeing (if it's not the 3rd inning one).

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                      • citybythebay85
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 160

                        #12
                        Re: AI obsessed with making &quot;shoelace&quot; catches on flyballs?

                        Originally posted by bcruise
                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5GByqGTAy0Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                        4th inning was a groundout (attempting to intentionally hit a flyball for the 3rd out of every inning isn't easy, even on directional) and there was no bottom of the 9th (score). I know the 3rd inning one is the one in question. Even taking away the moving catches, 1 out of 5 isn't what I'd call "damn near every time". Did I just get lucky?

                        Personally I like the flair, as long as it's not overdone . From where I'm sitting, it isn't.
                        The catch at 0:39 is what I keep seeing. Maybe 90% of the time is an exaggeration but it is fairly often and almost always on the 3rd out. I've been playing mostly DD so I don't know if there's any difference.

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                        • MightyVulk
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Re: AI obsessed with making &quot;shoelace&quot; catches on flyballs?

                          Originally posted by bcruise
                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5GByqGTAy0Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                          4th inning was a groundout (attempting to intentionally hit a flyball for the 3rd out of every inning isn't easy, even on directional) and there was no bottom of the 9th (score). I know the 3rd inning one is the one in question. Even taking away the moving catches, 1 out of 5 isn't what I'd call "damn near every time". Did I just get lucky?

                          Personally I like the flair, as long as it's not overdone . From where I'm sitting, it isn't.
                          I didn't see anything wrong with these out animation honestly. My problem is when you have limited and low rated fielders making ridiculous defensive plays and flair catches.

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                          • MightyVulk
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 14

                            #14
                            Re: AI obsessed with making &quot;shoelace&quot; catches on flyballs?

                            Originally posted by citybythebay85
                            The catch at 0:39 is what I keep seeing. Maybe 90% of the time is an exaggeration but it is fairly often and almost always on the 3rd out. I've been playing mostly DD so I don't know if there's any difference.
                            It's probably one of their 3 out animations they've added in to the game this yr.

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                            • hitman23
                              Rookie
                              • May 2014
                              • 278

                              #15
                              Re: AI obsessed with making &quot;shoelace&quot; catches on flyballs?

                              I see it way too much. Not realistic.

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