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  • Woodweaver
    Developer
    • Apr 2006
    • 1145

    #61
    Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

    Originally posted by Knight165
    Man...you had to dig to find that one!



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    I know. Kinda of an oxymoronic post.
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    • bdhill78
      Rookie
      • Nov 2010
      • 106

      #62
      Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

      The thing is, if they added A Ball to the game, then someone will complain why there isn't low A and high A, and then what about the Arizona Fall League? Or Rookie Ball? Winter ball? Independent leagues? What about the KBL or NPB or the Taiwan league?

      Actually that'd be a hell of a game, but absolutely massive and would probably make my PS4 shriek with the processing power needed. Anyhow, non-playable A ball is fine to tuck away roster fillers and draft picks. This is the deepest sports game out there that isn't Football Manager, but even then that game is very much limited to your computer's set up. The Show gives you the full game.

      Having just read the thread about the 30 year progression, I think SCE has made a great baseball game into a tremendous baseball game. There will never ever be a perfect game (or anything in this world) but does it work? Yes. Is it fun? For sure. Does it touch on realism more than occasionally? You bet. I can't wait for OSFM V2 to come out and start the game properly.
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      • Jolly Roger
        Prince of Plakata
        • Sep 2011
        • 871

        #63
        Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

        Originally posted by kehlis
        It's been made quite clear over the years that SCEA's scans are done the previous year in Spring Training. I apologize that you hadn't seen this previously. It's been well documented.
        I'm well aware that's how they do it, but they don't have to do it that way, at least not for every player. Heck, we know they create renditions of licensed players they couldn't get scans for rather than just making them as CAPs; that's all I'm asking for with new players that get called up throughout the year. Adding their photo shouldn't be problematic either.

        Originally posted by kehlis
        Go through my post history and then get back to me. Very unfair of you to call me an apologist when I've had my fair share of complaints for years.

        I know you see the green name and think I'm just a defender but I'm no different then you. Read through my posts. If you still think I'm an apologist PM me and let me know why.
        I wasn't talking about you specifically, I'm talking about what happens in general here when critiques or complaints are made. Often you'll here "devs said they're not doing that" or "that wouldn't be feasible", etc.

        Originally posted by bdhill78
        The thing is, if they added A Ball to the game, then someone will complain why there isn't low A and high A, and then what about the Arizona Fall League? Or Rookie Ball? Winter ball? Independent leagues? What about the KBL or NPB or the Taiwan league?
        To use another soccer video game as an example, Fifa has over 30 licensed or-semi licensed leagues and over 650 teams. There are roughly the same amount of players on a soccer team as there are on a 25-man baseball roster, so you do the math.

        I'm playing devil's advocate here; I'm not arguing for every level of minor league ball, J and K league, etc., but such a thing is feasible...

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52720

          #64
          Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

          Originally posted by Smallville102001
          That just sounds silly to me. They must have the license already to a point because they do have there logos in the game already. If they cant use there real life uniforms just make fake ones or something and its not like they need to have a license for ball parks because the AA and AAA teams in the game all play in fake ball parks. So why not do the same thing for single A?
          Where are the logos for the A teams? I have not seen them, but I also don't play DD or create a logo so maybe they are there?

          And if you think its silly they don't spend $$$ on licensing 30 Single A teams, then maybe you can donate the money to them to do so.
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          • deadlocked
            Rookie
            • Apr 2016
            • 155

            #65
            Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

            Originally posted by countryboy
            Where are the logos for the A teams? I have not seen them, but I also don't play DD or create a logo so maybe they are there?

            And if you think its silly they don't spend $$$ on licensing 30 Single A teams, then maybe you can donate the money to them to do so.

            Anyone who plays DD and buys the online currency is donating basically. Trust me SDS won't be hurting for money.

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            • Ghost Of The Year
              Life's been good so far.
              • Mar 2014
              • 6352

              #66
              Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

              Originally posted by deadlocked
              Trust me SDS won't be hurting for money.
              Yeah, that's why they're dev & support team is as large as it is, because they have so much money to throw around.
              T-BONE.

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              • Ghost Of The Year
                Life's been good so far.
                • Mar 2014
                • 6352

                #67
                Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                Originally posted by countryboy
                Where are the logos for the A teams? I have not seen them, but I also don't play DD or create a logo so maybe they are there?

                And if you think its silly they don't spend $$$ on licensing 30 Single A teams, then maybe you can donate the money to them to do so.
                I haven't seen any A team logos, or even team cities mentioned, but I do see that the Show uses the MLB teams Single A affiliate's nickname in game. I wonder if they have to pay for that?
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                • redsox4evur
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 18169

                  #68
                  Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                  Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                  I haven't seen any A team logos, or even team cities mentioned, but I do see that the Show uses the MLB teams Single A affiliate's nickname in game. I wonder if they have to pay for that?
                  Where have you seen this? JW because I have never noticed it.
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                  • Ghost Of The Year
                    Life's been good so far.
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 6352

                    #69
                    Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                    Originally posted by redsox4evur
                    Where have you seen this? JW because I have never noticed it.
                    When I'm tinkering with rosters, sometimes I won't realize I'm tring to put too many players in Single A and once you try to put more than 40, you get a message, like for example, the Orioles, "The Keys have reached their roster limit."
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                    • Jolly Roger
                      Prince of Plakata
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 871

                      #70
                      Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                      Advertising vs. licensing is an interesting thing. On the one hand, you might try to get paid if you know somebody wants to use your IP. On the other hand, if you're a small concern and would be happy to have your product shown off on a bigger stage, you might even pay for that opportunity (i.e., advertising).

                      We know from all the zany game-day gimmicks that minor league teams aren't shy about trying to attract people to their brand. As such, you wouldn't think a major, popular video game would have to pay much to get licensing from A-ball teams. That said, I have no idea what it would cost.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52720

                        #71
                        Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                        Originally posted by deadlocked
                        Anyone who plays DD and buys the online currency is donating basically. Trust me SDS won't be hurting for money.
                        I love how you present your opinion as fact just to keep your argument going.
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                        • deadlocked
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 155

                          #72
                          Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          I love how you present your opinion as fact just to keep your argument going.

                          All those FIFA twitch streamers spends hundreds to thousands of dollars on a weekly basis (daily if there is a big event like TOTY), even if The Show only gets half of that that's at least a couple million. Single A licensing and money spent to get them into the game would be in the low thousands. Still ton of profit margin there from DD alone.

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                          • redsox4evur
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #73
                            Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                            Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                            When I'm tinkering with rosters, sometimes I won't realize I'm tring to put too many players in Single A and once you try to put more than 40, you get a message, like for example, the Orioles, "The Keys have reached their roster limit."
                            Alright that's why I have never seen it. But that is a cool little feature to have.
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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52720

                              #74
                              Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                              Originally posted by deadlocked
                              All those FIFA twitch streamers spends hundreds to thousands of dollars on a weekly basis (daily if there is a big event like TOTY), even if The Show only gets half of that that's at least a couple million. Single A licensing and money spent to get them into the game would be in the low thousands. Still ton of profit margin there from DD alone.
                              SDS should hire you as their financial consultant.

                              Previously you were an expert on how to code games until your britches got caught on your own pitchfork. Now you're an expert in how much money SDS and FIFA makes and the costs of the licensing for Single A ballclubs.
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                              • HypoLuxa13
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1156

                                #75
                                Re: How are Single A teams not in the game?

                                How in the **** is this thread still open?

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