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  • #46
    KayOtic723
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 794

    Re: Strike zone tips


    Re: Strike zone tips

    Originally posted by JakeReaves
    I don't see this result at all. I'm on zone hitting with the PCI turned off and I can make great contact on balls up and away as well as low and in as long as I see the ball and time it correctly. I don't touch the left analog, only use the X button to swing.


    Most likely playing on all-star or lower hitting difficulty the pci is big enough to hit almost anything with moving the pci

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    • #47
      zpq12
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 1104

      Re: Strike zone tips


      Re: Strike zone tips

      Yeah, at this point I think this game is beyond me. I switched to timing hitting, I still have no prayer. I've tried to only hit fastballs down the middle of the plate, but I still find myself swinging at garbage. Opposing pitchers pitch about 8 pitches an inning. Anything I get a cut on and make contact with I'm way too late because I can't decide if it's going to be in the zone. I'm basically at a loss. I appreciate all the help, but honestly I'm not really enjoying this at all. I used to LOVE this game on PS3. Apparently I just can't handle it. I've played a ton of games at this point, I average about a hit point 5 per game. I've never walked.
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      • #48
        RockPowderDownLoL
        Rookie
        • Nov 2015
        • 219

        Re: Strike zone tips


        Re: Strike zone tips

        you are having trouble recognizing the pitch. learn to recognize pitches immediately out of the pitchers hand. first you need to find the pitchers release point. do not stare at the release point too long before the pitch comes in or your eyes will become tense and this will make the pitch appear faster. the pitchers release point may change when you have runners on base. learn to recognize a fastball. the ball generally comes straight out of the pitchers hand and generally you can see the palm of his hand where as a slider the ball has a red dot as well as the pitchers wrist is skinny because of how he is releasing it. this may be too difficult but on lower difficuties the pitchers arm speed is a lot slower. its okay to swing at the first pitch once in a while and sometimes you gotta jump on that first pitch so you don't allow the pitcher to comfortable as his first pitch is the most important one because it sets the tone for the rest of the at-bat. just make sure you get what you want.

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        • #49
          strawberryshortcake
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 2438

          Re: Strike zone tips


          Re: Strike zone tips

          Originally posted by zpq12
          Yeah, at this point I think this game is beyond me. I switched to timing hitting, I still have no prayer. I've tried to only hit fastballs down the middle of the plate, but I still find myself swinging at garbage. Opposing pitchers pitch about 8 pitches an inning. Anything I get a cut on and make contact with I'm way too late because I can't decide if it's going to be in the zone. I'm basically at a loss. I appreciate all the help, but honestly I'm not really enjoying this at all. I used to LOVE this game on PS3. Apparently I just can't handle it. I've played a ton of games at this point, I average about a hit point 5 per game. I've never walked.
          Drop pitch speed down to zero completely. That should help tremendously, hopefully.

          EDIT: No one gives up under my watch. Here's your next assignment. Only focus on hitting. Skip all pitching. Either use the "Fast Forward" to next half inning, or switch teams after you recorded three hitting outs so you're simply batting. Meaning you have 54 total outs to work as a hitter. Work on hitting only. Don't ever think about pitching right now.
          Last edited by strawberryshortcake; 05-13-2016, 01:46 AM.
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          • #50
            Smallville102001
            All Star
            • Mar 2015
            • 6542

            Re: Strike zone tips


            Re: Strike zone tips

            Originally posted by Mekias
            To me, the key to better discipline is picking up the pitch quickly. The goal is the find the ball and focus on it as soon as it leaves the pitchers hand. That gives you a reference point so that you can track where the pitch is going and how it's breaking. If you're not picking up the ball until it's halfway to the plate, you're going to have a hard time figuring out where it's going and how it's breaking.

            One of the things that caused me problems initially was the windups. I had a hard time trying to focus on the ball during the windup. What I'm now doing is focusing on the pitcher's belt during the windup. The belt mostly stays in one place so your eyes aren't darting all over the place. Then when I know the pitcher is about to release, I move my eyes to the release point and pick up the ball.

            Another thing I might do if I'm struggling in franchise or RTTS is to check out what pitcher I'm up against the next day. I then go to practice mode and get some swings in against that same pitcher for a little bit to get used to his delivery and types of pitches he has.

            Like Smallville, my biggest problem is usually high fastballs. It's easier to pull the left stick down than it is to push it up. I also get into a bad habit of pulling it down to try and hit homeruns. What I to do to combat that is to move the PCI to the upper part of the zone "before" the pitch. If it's a high fastball, I don't have to move it much. If it's low, I'm still pretty quick at pulling the stick down.


            I have thought about starting my PCI up a little high to start but the problem is that I already hit into way to many double plays to begin with and if I started the PCI up high I would be more likely to hit into even more double plays and even more so if I am facing a pitcher with a sinker. When I face a pitcher like that I try to start the PCI a little low. In the past I found I would chase changeups way to much because they look 100% like a fastball to me. But with having the slider for both fastball and changeup speed this year and with the way they changed the way the ball moves last year I don't have that issue any more but like ever year I still cant hit the high fastball like at all.

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            • #51
              Speedy
              #Ace
              • Apr 2008
              • 16140

              Re: Strike zone tips


              Re: Strike zone tips

              Two points I'd say:

              The user who stated to let the first pitch go...I don't exactly agree with that perspective as there are plenty good 1st pitches that can/should be mashed but his mindset is correct. I would advise to go to practice mode and pick a pitcher with explosive stuff and simply watch the ball. Learn what is a strike, what's not a strike, the spin of the ball of different pitches, flight of the ball, what plane or area do pitches START to become a ball.

              Secondly, when hitting, learn to look for a certain pitch (not talking guess pitch here). Hitters always try to predict the pitcher's thought process so try to do the same. If you were pitching, what pitch would you throw in this situation? With hitting, it's necessary to think like a pitcher and what you'd throw not only in THIS count but potentially the next pitch also.
              Originally posted by Gibson88
              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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              • #52
                Mekias
                Rookie
                • May 2009
                • 177

                Re: Strike zone tips


                Re: Strike zone tips

                Originally posted by Smallville102001
                I have thought about starting my PCI up a little high to start but the problem is that I already hit into way to many double plays to begin with and if I started the PCI up high I would be more likely to hit into even more double plays and even more so if I am facing a pitcher with a sinker. When I face a pitcher like that I try to start the PCI a little low. In the past I found I would chase changeups way to much because they look 100% like a fastball to me. But with having the slider for both fastball and changeup speed this year and with the way they changed the way the ball moves last year I don't have that issue any more but like ever year I still cant hit the high fastball like at all.

                Yeah, for pitchers who's main pitch is the sinker, I usually set up in the middle of the plate until two strikes (and only look for pitches in the upper half). Then at two strikes, I set up at the bottom of the zone.

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                • #53
                  zpq12
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1104

                  Re: Strike zone tips


                  Re: Strike zone tips

                  One thing that confuses me is this talk about disappearing PCIs. My understanding is that the PCI is the oval that indicates the are in which you can reliably make contact, its also the indicator that you can move during directional hitting. To me, the strike zone box is something entirely different.

                  I only ever see the PCI when I see the post pitch report info/box in the bottom corner of my screen.

                  During active hitting, I see no PCI, and the strike zone disappears as the picther enters his windup. Can I make either of these stay on my screen through the pitch?

                  Also, how often do people use the contact and power swings? How much does the contact swing punish you as far as sold his when you manage to make contact?
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                  • #54
                    cvhji
                    Banned
                    • May 2016
                    • 3

                    Re: Strike zone tips


                    Re: Strike zone tips

                    I'm not sure what that is. However, you provided some good stuff, thank you. I hope someday I'll have an at bat more than 4 pitches, and maybe even pull a fastball.

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                    • #55
                      Mekias
                      Rookie
                      • May 2009
                      • 177

                      Re: Strike zone tips


                      Re: Strike zone tips

                      Originally posted by zpq12
                      One thing that confuses me is this talk about disappearing PCIs. My understanding is that the PCI is the oval that indicates the are in which you can reliably make contact, its also the indicator that you can move during directional hitting. To me, the strike zone box is something entirely different.

                      I only ever see the PCI when I see the post pitch report info/box in the bottom corner of my screen.

                      During active hitting, I see no PCI, and the strike zone disappears as the picther enters his windup. Can I make either of these stay on my screen through the pitch?

                      Also, how often do people use the contact and power swings? How much does the contact swing punish you as far as sold his when you manage to make contact?


                      I'm not at home right now but I believe the PCI and strike zone settings are under User Settings. The first page is batting and that should have the options for how to display the PCI and strike zone.


                      I only use power swings rarely if I'm ahead in the count and feel confident against the pitcher. I use contact swing about 75% of the time with 2 strikes. It's easier to check my swing and foul off pitches. I think contact effectively lowers your power stat by about 25-30 points. My RTTS guy has about 68 power, made solid contact and hit it about 300 feet. A guy with a lot of power can probably hit homeruns down the lines with a contact swing.

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                      • #56
                        zpq12
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1104

                        Re: Strike zone tips


                        Re: Strike zone tips

                        Originally posted by Mekias
                        I'm not at home right now but I believe the PCI and strike zone settings are under User Settings. The first page is batting and that should have the options for how to display the PCI and strike zone.


                        I only use power swings rarely if I'm ahead in the count and feel confident against the pitcher. I use contact swing about 75% of the time with 2 strikes. It's easier to check my swing and foul off pitches. I think contact effectively lowers your power stat by about 25-30 points. My RTTS guy has about 68 power, made solid contact and hit it about 300 feet. A guy with a lot of power can probably hit homeruns down the lines with a contact swing.
                        There are no strike zone settings. I have PCI set to on and the appearance is locked to reticle for directional hitting.

                        Thanks for the contact swing info.
                        UofM-Duluth Bulldogs Hockey

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                        • #57
                          zpq12
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1104

                          Re: Strike zone tips


                          Re: Strike zone tips

                          Originally posted by Speedy
                          Two points I'd say:

                          The user who stated to let the first pitch go...I don't exactly agree with that perspective as there are plenty good 1st pitches that can/should be mashed but his mindset is correct. I would advise to go to practice mode and pick a pitcher with explosive stuff and simply watch the ball. Learn what is a strike, what's not a strike, the spin of the ball of different pitches, flight of the ball, what plane or area do pitches START to become a ball.

                          Secondly, when hitting, learn to look for a certain pitch (not talking guess pitch here). Hitters always try to predict the pitcher's thought process so try to do the same. If you were pitching, what pitch would you throw in this situation? With hitting, it's necessary to think like a pitcher and what you'd throw not only in THIS count but potentially the next pitch also.
                          You guys talk about seeing the pitchers arm turn to the side or the spin. What size of tv do you have??? What camera view are you using?

                          What does the experienced vs beginner difficulty settings mean?
                          Last edited by zpq12; 05-13-2016, 06:08 PM.
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                          • #58
                            Panopticism
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 40

                            Re: Strike zone tips


                            Re: Strike zone tips

                            If you're swinging at decent pitches that just miss the strike zone, that's not a huge concern. If you're swinging at waste pitches, chase pitches, or pitches that end up hitting you, then you're going to struggle to put together any reliable run production.

                            I recommend a few things:

                            1. Pay attention to what kind of pitches the pitcher you're facing can throw. It seems like a no brainer, but if you know the pool of possible pitches and you know what kind of pitches and locations you're likely to see in a given context, it's a lot less hopeless.

                            2. Turn the strike zone off. Just try it. You might be losing the ball in the corners of the strike zone graphic. I rarely walk with the strike zone graphic on, but I'm always in deep counts when it's off. It's easier for me to pick up the trajectory when there aren't static white objects to distract me.

                            3. Practice in the practice mode, and practice somewhere indoors/with the roof closed like the Trop or the Rogers Centre. The lighting in the game is great, and it's pretty easy to lose the ball when it's in flight with a the sun shining on the background behind it.

                            4. Do not confuse good contact/at-'em-balls with a lack of success. If you're getting decent hitters' counts a lot, and making good contact but hitting them right into someone's glove over and over, you're probably still doing it right.

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                            • #59
                              zpq12
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 1104

                              Re: Strike zone tips


                              Re: Strike zone tips

                              Anyone want a good deal on a PS4 and this game? I cannot get this. It's absolutely ridiculous. I took several days off to cool it and I cannot get anything going. I tried the pitch recognition practice and it ended when I threw my controller. I still have yet to break 0 on that mode.
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                              • #60
                                strawberryshortcake
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 2438

                                Re: Strike zone tips


                                Re: Strike zone tips

                                Originally posted by zpq12
                                One thing that confuses me is this talk about disappearing PCIs. My understanding is that the PCI is the oval that indicates the are in which you can reliably make contact, its also the indicator that you can move during directional hitting. To me, the strike zone box is something entirely different.

                                I only ever see the PCI when I see the post pitch report info/box in the bottom corner of my screen.

                                During active hitting, I see no PCI, and the strike zone disappears as the picther enters his windup. Can I make either of these stay on my screen through the pitch?

                                Also, how often do people use the contact and power swings? How much does the contact swing punish you as far as sold his when you manage to make contact?
                                Originally posted by zpq12
                                There are no strike zone settings. I have PCI set to on and the appearance is locked to reticle for directional hitting.

                                Thanks for the contact swing info.


                                Did you ever get your PCI to stay on screen? Plate coverage indicator set to ON. Unfortunately, the strike zone will fade away after the pitcher winds up. Did you take my advice and only work on hitting and simply skip pitching altogether?



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