Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

[Grinder12000]

Does pitching a starter 130+ pitches because of a shut out hurt you long term? Extra days rest or anything?

And for that matter - if I warm up a guy for 2 innings and never get him in the game . . . what does that do down the road in the next game.

[kehlis]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

Does pitching a starter 130+ pitches because of a shut out hurt you long term? Extra days rest or anything?

And for that matter - if I warm up a guy for 2 innings and never get him in the game . . . what does that do down the road in the next game.

Are you using quick counts?

[Grinder12000]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

No - full game MoM. I was winning 6-0 so no reason to leave him in except a shut-up but geez, he was still clicking off outs! Why take him out unless . . . . .

Of course. 9th, 2 outs 2 strikes HR :-(

[dickey1331]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

If you leave him in that long with that many pitched you increase the chance of him getting injured.

[Unlucky 13]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

After the game is over, it doesn't really matter. Once the pitcher reaches zero stamina, he cannot go any lower, and his recovery time will be the same whether he threw 90 pitches or 130. In older versions of the game, I would often see a starter go into his next start with 90-95% stamina instead of 100% if I really worked him like that, so it was a consideration to think about, but in more recent versions it seems like if they get four days rest, they're good.

On a related note, I've noticed in this year's game that once a starter gets into the 8th and 9th innings, no matter how good his stamina rating is and no matter how few pitches he may have thrown, he's likely to get tired at the end. That may be 120 pitches one start, but only 80 the next. I think that its part of the games code attempting to make sure that pitchers don't throw an unrealistic number of innings and relievers get into the game.

I had a game where Jake Arrieta got to the 9th by throwing fewer than 70 pitches, but his energy was somehow depleated from about 2/3 to almost gone between the 7th and 9th innings. That was the most extreme example, but I've seen it enough to think its something they've stuck in there. In older versions if I were in a similar situation, I've on occasion had a starter go into extra innings if his count was low, and the CPU would do the same.

[countryboy]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

If you leave him in that long with that many pitched you increase the chance of him getting injured.

This!

I overthrew Michael Wacha in a game earlier this year and injured his elbow.

[Grinder12000]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

After the game is over, it doesn't really matter. Once the pitcher reaches zero stamina, he cannot go any lower, and his recovery time will be the same whether he threw 90 pitches or 130.

That is what I was lookign for.

And since no one ever seems to get injured . . . . . . I think my slider is at 7 now.

[Unlucky 13]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

That is what I was lookign for.

And since no one ever seems to get injured . . . . . . I think my slider is at 7 now.

I actually took my injury slider down a notch after losing one starting pitcher for 6+ months and another for 3. Also lost a reserve infielder for 2-3 months, and several pitchers had to leave starts but were thankfully ok in 1-6 days.

And thats not even counting all of the injuries that happen while simming the games for the rest of the league and the minors.

[Grinder12000]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

Off Topic but I don't get to worried about lack of injuries. As long as it's fair for all teams I'm good.

That is how I feel about this game. as long as it's consistent I don't HAVE to be 110% realistic to have fun.

[NEOPARADIGM]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

Off Topic but I don't get to worried about lack of injuries. As long as it's fair for all teams I'm good.

Yeah but a healthy smattering of injuries forces you into using your farm system a lot more. I love the core of the game as much as the next guy but rolling out basically the same lineup, the same starting five, and the same 5 or 6 guys in the pen gets a little old after 30 or 40 games, let alone 162. It's great to have your hand forced a bit with a good collection of 4-8 guys on the DL at any given time.

[KBLover]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

Yeah but a healthy smattering of injuries forces you into using your farm system a lot more. I love the core of the game as much as the next guy but rolling out basically the same lineup, the same starting five, and the same 5 or 6 guys in the pen gets a little old after 30 or 40 games, let alone 162. It's great to have your hand forced a bit with a good collection of 4-8 guys on the DL at any given time.

Especially once your farm starts getting beat up, too.

It's like...who do I call up.

I was getting injuries in my rotation. Signed Colon off the FA market...and now HE is out for the year. If I WANTED to give a kid some innings...my best ones were hurt. I didn't like any of the other kids so I went for the vet...thanks a lot virtual Colon.

Luckily, they are getting back healthy a bit, but still...when the replacement for the injured player gets injured...start wondering if it's going to be that kind of year.

If Dickey gets hurt...(signed him)...I might go 4 man rotation pretending like I'm skipping slot 4 because it's CURSED.

Hey, it's baseball. I'm supposed to be superstitious!

[dickey1331]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

I hope I don't get hurt.

[Grinder12000]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

Yeah but a healthy smattering of injuries forces you into using your farm system a lot more.

Oh yea - I do agree with that for sure. I just have not found the best balance yet.

[KBLover]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

Oh yea - I do agree with that for sure. I just have not found the best balance yet.

IMO, balanced is 8 or 9 injury slider.

Take a look at the injury reports for the irl teams.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fantasy/injuries/

A lot of them are ugly.

[ccbarr]

Re: Starter pitched 130+ pitches - bad thing?

I was kinda curious about the second part of the OP question, if you warm up relievers and have them warm, and ready and waiting, does that do anything to their stamina this year?

I play 9 inning broadcast version games, no quick counts. It seems like this year I've noticed RP coming into the game sometimes get tired very quickly, and I may not have used them for a few days but have had them up in the pen, so kinda curious what the situation is.

I should note this is in offline franchise, with my team, the Braves. So maybe the RP just don't want to be seen on the field... This a bit off topic but I had a game at Turner Field wher only 8000 people showed up, the place was a ghost town.