Runner on 1st = double play?

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: Runner on 1st = double play?

I think these two things combined are where a lot of the issues lies.

The animations for turning DPs sure seem much quicker than the others fielders have, especially for throwing.

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The throws to second are either right there or way off and you get no outs. Not much in between where the feed might be a little offline where the 2B might have to slow down that "neighborhood play" to make sure he gets the ball and the bag before making the return throw or anything like that.

And the difficult throws being right on the money a lot - yeah I see that. And it's tough because if you raise the throwing error slider for IF, you might see 4 Knoblauchs on the field suddenly.

CPU pitchers being able to locate low consistently, regardless of BB/9 or Control, seems to be part of it.

Another part is that it seems infield outs go right to infielders too much. Not a lot of moving a couple steps to field and then still throwing out. On DPs, those extra tenths of a second could add up to let the batter-runner beat it out. Combine that with more imperfect-but-not-error-causing throws and I think we'd start to see it subside.

Haven't been playing this game much lately so I am not going to recall the animations for turning double plays.

But are you saying "The animations for turning DPs sure seem much quicker than the others fielders have, especially for throwing." is a bad thing?

From my recollection, I think fielders' throwing reaction are already too slow. The lack of urgency throwing animation is still often too frequent. The game doesn't need to slow down any more throwing animations. They need to increase the amount of urgency throws to a more realistic level. Turning double plays requires urgency. I don't want to see the game artificially nerfing realistic urgent fielding and throwing motions with nonchalant throws.

I'm currently playing the Japanese baseball games (PYS/Jikkyou), and not all doubles plays are successful at all. All the double plays turned have fielders with urgent fielding and throwing animation, however the difference is the runner is able to beat the throw to first with speed and secondly, where the balls are hit to the infielders makes the plays at first very close or unsuccessful. Maybe more ball hit variety is a better solution (not everything hit directly to the infielders), but definitely not toning down the speed of how the double plays are turned. I'm already frustrated by non-urgency throwing motions in MLB16. This is why I have been using the "fast forward" feature during pitching so I don't have to be further frustrated by non-urgency throws and errors that seem to come out of nowhere. Errors is a part of baseball, but some of the MLBshow errors simply don't look organically natural.

[KBLover]

Re: Runner on 1st = double play?

But are you saying "The animations for turning DPs sure seem much quicker than the others fielders have, especially for throwing." is a bad thing?

It seems the engine makes the routine throws slower, so when it speeds up (and perhaps too fast, considering some of these off-balance, pivot/spin throws - I've seen catchers spin around and make perfect throws in less time it takes my 2B on a routine grounder make a preloaded throw), it seems to throw off the whole timing that the engine seems oriented around.

That seems to contribute to the increase of DPs to a high level. Whether it's "bad" or "good", it might be part of why there's a ton of DPs. So if it's "good" that they throw very fast (especially relative to routine easy throws), even if off balance, then the rest of the engine needs to work better with those timings.

PYS and Jikkyou use different a engine than MLBTS so the timings and everything are different. If you put those throws in MLBTS, you'd probably get a ton of DPs instead of the maybe/maybe not you're experiencing.

[Speedy]

Re: Runner on 1st = double play?

No matter where the pitch is thrown, I seem to hit into a ground ball double play almost literally every time a runner is on 1st. Any suggestions? By the way, I play on All-Star, zone hitting, default sliders. Thanks.

Sounds you like have your hitting profile set to 2016 Albert Pujols.

Might want to adjust that.