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  • zippy2212
    MVP
    • Jun 2008
    • 1095

    #16
    re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

    I think everyone is correct. By rule it is technically wrong but not truly a bug. My guess is they couldn't apply it 100% correct with out causing other issues.

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    • KBLover
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 12172

      #17
      re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

      Originally posted by woodjer
      And while I'm getting technical, a "bug" in software terms indicates that something is not functioning as intended. In this case, it seems to be working as programmed based on the message it displayed but the full rule wasn't properly programmed.
      If the rule was intended to function as stated in the official MLB rules, then it is not doing that. Even in that definition, would it not be a bug?

      Saying it's not means that the devs did not intend to implement the rule in question, imo.

      Obviously, that could be true. No one, except the devs and the universe knows.
      Last edited by KBLover; 06-03-2016, 02:39 PM. Reason: bad word order
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      • woodjer
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 1196

        #18
        re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

        Originally posted by KBLover
        If the rule was intended to function as stated in the official MLB rules, then it is not doing that. Even in that definition, would it not be a bug?

        Saying it's not means that the devs did not intend to implement the rule in question, imo.

        Obviously, that could be true. No one, except the devs and the universe knows.
        I suppose you could call it a bug for that reason. In the long run, it doesn't really matter unless/until the devs decide to update. Sorry, I just felt like being overly technical about something
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        • Grinder12000
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 1122

          #19
          Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

          Bug #2 is a real bug

          If you try to bunt with a pitcher and all 4 pitches are balls because your pitcher misses all 4 pitches the game locks up and the only way to get out of it is to reboot and that game starts all over.

          Depending on where your lineup was, you probably could (should?) have made a double-switch to avoid having to hit with your P.
          I wanted too but I did not have that option.

          Awesome conversation guys (I assume). I was not complaining but since I have never seen this in real life it was new to me.

          Friend of mine is a umpire for schools - I'll ask him as he is rather high up in the ratings.

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          • Grinder12000
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 1122

            #20
            Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

            According to umpire friend this "bad coding" and the software is wrong. The side was retired thus it qualifies as pitched to one batter.

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            • ryan36
              7 dirty words...
              • Feb 2003
              • 10139

              #21
              Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

              Originally posted by Grinder12000
              Bug #2 is a real bug

              If you try to bunt with a pitcher and all 4 pitches are balls because your pitcher misses all 4 pitches the game locks up and the only way to get out of it is to reboot and that game starts all over.

              I wanted too but I did not have that option.

              Awesome conversation guys (I assume). I was not complaining but since I have never seen this in real life it was new to me.

              Friend of mine is a umpire for schools - I'll ask him as he is rather high up in the ratings.
              I'm confused...are you saying if a pitcher takes 4 balls, the game freezes?

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              • Grinder12000
                MVP
                • Jun 2009
                • 1122

                #22
                Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                I'm confused...are you saying if a pitcher takes 4 balls, the game freezes?
                Four balls while TRYING to bunt = yes.

                Notice when a pitcher misses a bunt attempt he sort of freeze for a little while? He will freeze in the missed bunt position on ball 4 and then the game just gets into a loop and you can't get out of it without rebooting and starting the game over.

                It's happened twice (Franchise MoM) so now you need to alter your strategy if that situation comes up.
                Last edited by Grinder12000; 06-03-2016, 11:41 PM.

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                • MatrixTN
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1857

                  #23
                  Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                  1 & 3 (both of the same rule) are bugs since at least '13. Offense put out (runner picked off/caught stealing) is the part thats messed up.

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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #24
                    Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                    Originally posted by Grinder12000
                    Four balls while TRYING to bunt = yes.

                    Notice when a pitcher misses a bunt attempt he sort of freeze for a little while? He will freeze in the missed bunt position on ball 4 and then the game just gets into a loop and you can't get out of it without rebooting and starting the game over.

                    It's happened twice (Franchise MoM) so now you need to alter your strategy if that situation comes up.
                    Still no idea what you're trying to say.

                    Missing on four bunt attempts would be impossible because he would have struck out already.

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                    • Grinder12000
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1122

                      #25
                      Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                      Come to think of it you are correct and there is a BIGGER problem BUG. If the batting pitchers misses the bunt attempt that should be a strike and not a called ball even if the thrown pitch is outside the zone.

                      When the batting pitcher misses he literally frozen in place - on the last attempt the entire game goes into a loop and you need to reboot.

                      Season/MoM
                      Last edited by Grinder12000; 06-04-2016, 07:35 PM.

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                      • scooterperpetual
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 811

                        #26
                        Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                        Figure this is at least some what related and not sure if this is a bug or a rule in baseball.

                        So I have a runner on 2nd 2 outs full count ball 4 is called and the runner who is running with the pitch gets tagged out at 3rd?
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52728

                          #27
                          Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                          Originally posted by scooterperpetual
                          Figure this is at least some what related and not sure if this is a bug or a rule in baseball.

                          So I have a runner on 2nd 2 outs full count ball 4 is called and the runner who is running with the pitch gets tagged out at 3rd?
                          He is out, since he didn't have a trail runner that had to take his base due to the walk.
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                          • scooterperpetual
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 811

                            #28
                            Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            He is out, since he didn't have a trail runner that had to take his base due to the walk.
                            Okay thank you. Just to make sure I understand the rule completely if there was a runner on 1st he would have been safe? So in a different scenario if there are runners on 2nd and 3rd I could have them go with the pitch?
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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52728

                              #29
                              Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                              Originally posted by scooterperpetual
                              Okay thank you. Just to make sure I understand the rule completely if there was a runner on 1st he would have been safe? So in a different scenario if there are runners on 2nd and 3rd I could have them go with the pitch?
                              if you would've had a runner on 1st then yes the runner on 2nd would've been safe at third because he has to advance a base due to the walk.

                              You are only entitled to the free base if you have a trailing runner that MUST ADVANCE due to the walk.

                              EX: Man on 1st has to advance to 2nd due to walk so that batter can replace him at 1st. Men on 1st and 2nd. Man on 2nd has to advance to 3rd so that runner on first can replace him at 2nd because hitter replaces him at 1st. Bases loaded, runner on 3rd has to advance home so that runner on 2nd can replace him at 3rd, runner on 2nd has to advance to 3rd so that runner on 1st can replace him at 2nd, and runner on 1st has to advance to 2nd because hitter replaces him at 1st.

                              If you don't have a runner at first base, but runners on 2nd and 3rd, there is no free base on a walk because first base is open. If you have runners on 1st and 3rd and there is a walk, the only runner entitled to a free base is the runner on first because he is being replaced by the hitter who walked.

                              I really hope that makes sense.
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                              • scooterperpetual
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 811

                                #30
                                Re: MLB Rule? or THREE bugs in one inning

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                if you would've had a runner on 1st then yes the runner on 2nd would've been safe at third because he has to advance a base due to the walk.

                                You are only entitled to the free base if you have a trailing runner that MUST ADVANCE due to the walk.

                                EX: Man on 1st has to advance to 2nd due to walk so that batter can replace him at 1st. Men on 1st and 2nd. Man on 2nd has to advance to 3rd so that runner on first can replace him at 2nd because hitter replaces him at 1st. Bases loaded, runner on 3rd has to advance home so that runner on 2nd can replace him at 3rd, runner on 2nd has to advance to 3rd so that runner on 1st can replace him at 2nd, and runner on 1st has to advance to 2nd because hitter replaces him at 1st.

                                If you don't have a runner at first base, but runners on 2nd and 3rd, there is no free base on a walk because first base is open. If you have runners on 1st and 3rd and there is a walk, the only runner entitled to a free base is the runner on first because he is being replaced by the hitter who walked.

                                I really hope that makes sense.
                                Makes sense thank you!
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