PS4 Pro Native 4K resolution running at 60 FPS with HDR support?

[bcruise]

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Also, closed-roof Skydome behind the plate cameras were probably the biggest offenders for in-game frame drop in this years game - maybe you could take a look at that too to see if there's any difference?

Thanks.

[Millennium]

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I tried Coors Field and I still see the same performance.

When the away team brings in a reliever the camera pans across the rocks in center field. On both systems, you'll notice the frame rate struggle while the rocks are in view, but then smooth out as they move out of frame.

It makes sense. When the PS4 Pro runs a PS4 game without a patch, the system goes into a compatibility mode. The extra GPU power is disabled.

This I have seen happen on the Pro.

But I have also seen multiple other scenes now that I've compared to the PS4 run smooth as butter.

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[IHateDuke32]

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Just tried a few games at parks that I've seen bad framerates at with my original PS4. I still see the same lag, shame. But then again I know a lot of people have said without a patch this game would run the exact same.

I bought '16 twice, once physical and once digital. I had the physical copy first and upon playing and noticing the bad framerate at some parks (and the fact that somehow a lot of people say their game plays smooth at all times) I thought it was either my TV, PS4, or the game itself. After buying the game again, this time digitally, I noticed the same issues.

I don't have any issues with any other games, so I know it's not my TV or PS4 (I now have the Pro).

I spent over $130 on '16 after buying it twice. Even with the bad framerate at some parks I still played the heck out of this game. Probably more than I've ever played any video game before. I know some people say there's no framerate issue at all. Trust me I wish I could agree with that sentiment. At certain parks, when the ball is in play, the game just looks terrible. I guess the best way for me to describe it is a constant stutter.

I just hope this framerate issue is cleaned up in '17. I'll be preordering it soon, because the game is awesome and I love baseball. Really it's the only reason I have a PS4 over Xbox One.

[MythicalGnome]

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Without a patch there should be next to no differences in the game. The PS4 emulates the OG PS4 very very closely.

[TheWarmWind]

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I know this might be late for a few people but it's been found out that the PS4 pro actually hurts performance unless you are playing on a 4k tv. This is because the game is still upscaled, but then downscaled to your tv, causing stuttering, dropped frames and generally poorer performance.

It's been well documented so far but I got this information from gameranx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2o5DeM3WT8

It's the first story of the video.

[Spokker]

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I know this might be late for a few people but it's been found out that the PS4 pro actually hurts performance unless you are playing on a 4k tv. This is because the game is still upscaled, but then downscaled to your tv, causing stuttering, dropped frames and generally poorer performance.

No, this is misleading. Just to clarify:

1. Games without a PS4 Pro patch run exactly the same as the PS4 version. So the news you bring has nothing do with MLB 16. Again, just want to clarify for anyone playing the game on PS4 Pro.

2. Games that have a PS4 Pro patch will run exactly the same whether you are outputting a 1080p or 4K signal. When run on a 1080p TV, the PS4 Pro is still rendering natively at 1440p or 4K. However, the PS4 sends a 1080p signal to your TV.

You are still benefiting from better visuals (such as less jagged edges). It has nothing to do with 4K or 1080p TVs. In other words, there is no way to force a Pro-enabled game to run like a non-Pro game on PS4 Pro.

Information is getting warped like in a game of telephone. The full scoop is here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-base-hardware

And the problem, if you can call it that, is not affecting all games.

[MythicalGnome]

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Yeah that is totally preposterous. How one could come to that conclusion and think it is true is hilarious. Inept to say the least.

The PS4 improves most of all on 1080P plus modes IMO. One could say 4K native is not even that special. It's just huge resolution at the cost of everything else. I only have a 1080p TV so I really want Show 17 to either be 1080p with awesome graphics or maybe downscaled 1440p like TLOU remaster at 60FPS.

I don't think that MLB 17 is a good candidate for 2160p 60FPS for some reason. The crowds and having to do weather on top of that and everything else seems like it will be too much.

I'd much rather we get a super kick *** 1080p mode.

I just think it's funny someone watches a youtube video like it's gospel now. LOL.

[marinofan]

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Does the pro upscale the game? The Xbox one s upscale the games, I have it and it makes all games look better.

[Spokker]

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Does the pro upscale the game? The Xbox one s upscale the games, I have it and it makes all games look better.

Sure, the Pro will upscale the game, but it's not what you think. The native resolution is still the same as the original PS4. There is no PS4 Pro patch for MLB The Show.

I believe you may be misinformed about the Xbox One S. The Xbox One S itself cannot make Xbox One games look better on a 4K TV. They are still rendered at exactly the same resolution. The upscaling process simply means it's taking a 1080p image and blowing it up to 4K resolution on a 4K screen. If it didn't do this, the image would be much smaller than the screen itself.

The process cannot add any detail and any improvements you see are either placebo or caused by something else, not the Xbox One S. The upscaling technique does soften the image somewhat, but that would happen regardless of whether your Xbox One S sent a 4K signal or a 1080p signal. It depends on which device has a better upscaler, the Xbox or the TV.

This does not apply to Xbox One S games that support HDR. You will see a benefit in colors and contrast, but the resolution is the same.

[marinofan]

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Are there any videos of mlb 16 on ps4 pro?

[tnixen]

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Are there any videos of mlb 16 on ps4 pro?

I have the PS4 Pro and MLB The Show 16 and you are not missing anything at all if you just have the standard PS4. It runs great but it is exactly the same as far as I can tell not that it is a bad thing because MLB The Show 16 is already fantastic on the standard PS4 in my opinion. Hopefully though MLB The Show 17 will take full advantage of the Pro's power and features including HDR and 4K. If it does not I will be highly disappointed and upset.

Honestly though I have a real good feeling MLB The Show 17 is going to see by far the biggest graphical upgrades since the series started. For many reasons like finally not having to make it for PS3. That alone should have a big impact on the graphics since they can now just focus on PS4. I maybe wrong but I think the reason MLB The Show on PS4 up to 16 still kind of looks too much like the PS3 versions is because Sony had to make it for PS3 too. Also I am hoping Sony had the tools for the Pro back when they first started working on 17. So that way they should be able to take advantage of all the goodies that the Pro offers.

Again I could very well be wrong but I really think MLB The Show 17 is going to be a pretty big leap as far as graphics is concerned on PS4 Pro of course and even the standard PS4 will see a very nice improvement thanks to no more PS3 version

[cubby blue]

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Anybody that has a ps4 pro, have you tried the power boost feature yet? Their suppose to be a patch that allows you to enable this feature for any game. I thought it might help with stuttering on cutscenes.

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[MythicalGnome]

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I don't know of anyone trying MLB yet, but there is good reason to believe that it could be a little smoother. It's boosting a lot of games, and so far I don't know of Sony non-Pro ones that it at least doesn't do something with.

But games that are coded with problems tend to still have some of the same problems so who knows. Until Dawn was improved a LOT in the FPS.

[MythicalGnome]

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I have the PS4 Pro and MLB The Show 16 and you are not missing anything at all if you just have the standard PS4. It runs great but it is exactly the same as far as I can tell not that it is a bad thing because MLB The Show 16 is already fantastic on the standard PS4 in my opinion. Hopefully though MLB The Show 17 will take full advantage of the Pro's power and features including HDR and 4K. If it does not I will be highly disappointed and upset.

Honestly though I have a real good feeling MLB The Show 17 is going to see by far the biggest graphical upgrades since the series started. For many reasons like finally not having to make it for PS3. That alone should have a big impact on the graphics since they can now just focus on PS4. I maybe wrong but I think the reason MLB The Show on PS4 up to 16 still kind of looks too much like the PS3 versions is because Sony had to make it for PS3 too. Also I am hoping Sony had the tools for the Pro back when they first started working on 17. So that way they should be able to take advantage of all the goodies that the Pro offers.

Again I could very well be wrong but I really think MLB The Show 17 is going to be a pretty big leap as far as graphics is concerned on PS4 Pro of course and even the standard PS4 will see a very nice improvement thanks to no more PS3 version

I mean maybe, but nothing so far has pointed at any HUGE leaps in graphics. I remain a skeptic. I bet more in year two of not having a PS3 version we will see bigger upgrades.

[Spokker]

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MLB The Show is not exactly the kind of game that people would go out and test with the new boost mode. I asked around but no one bit.

To summarize, the new beta firmware has a boost mode available to PS4 Pro owners. This means that the extra power in the PS4 Pro will be available to games that did not receive a PS4 Pro patch.

Practically speaking, this means that games with an unlocked frame rate (i.e. allowed to fluctuate beyond 30 FPS) will see improved performance. Games that are capped at 30 FPS will only see improved performance if they ever dipped below 30 FPS. So far I've heard of good results in games that were tested.

I imagine that the results will be based on whether the game is CPU bound or GPU bound. Games that are CPU bound might see a performance increase, but not dramatic since the PS4 Pro CPU was not a huge improvement over the vanilla PS4.

If I knew about the beta and got a code, I'd be testing all versions of MLB The Show like mad, but alas, I was too busy.

Here's a demanding Just Cause 3 scene with boost mode enabled and disabled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX0SzXGdSxM