MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

[Lovesports]

Bottom line, if they don't finally upgrade the player models and improve player graphics I am ready to stop playing this game. I'm just about ready to boycott this game like I did with madden back in 2014. We've had the same 3 player body types since the PS3...that's pathetic. The small changes will no longer justify a $60 purchase. If you can't make significant changes than don't release the game every year. I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I'm ok boycotting this game alone. They'll have to earn my money. I'm sorry for going off but I sense that the lack of competition is hurting this franchise.

[capa]

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But SDS did add classic stadiums on PS4, even after they initially said there wasn't enough interest. Granted those stadiums already existed on PS3, but they were old builds that had to be rebuilt from the ground up. Quite a bit of work for something that doesn't offer a high ROI.

I guess what I'm saying is that SDS is capable of surprising us with any from here 'til March. Instead of focusing on what may not be included, it's more productive (and more fun!) to speculate what may be included. Personally, I'm hoping for a great creation suite until it's confirmed or de-confirmed.

That is true...and as you said for the existing stadiums (not all) that they had on the PS3. There was an investment in time and money for this but they must have determined it was worth it for the first roll out of the PS4 game.

They are adding a few each year, but then again, removing others. Revolving door syndrome. I hope they do surprise us and that everything I wrote in my post is absolutely wrong.

I hope so...but not betting the mortgage payment.

C

[Bullit]

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Bottom line, if they don't finally upgrade the player models and improve player graphics I am ready to stop playing this game. I'm just about ready to boycott this game like I did with madden back in 2014. We've had the same 3 player body types since the PS3...that's pathetic. The small changes will no longer justify a $60 purchase. If you can't make significant changes than don't release the game every year. I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I'm ok boycotting this game alone. They'll have to earn my money. I'm sorry for going off but I sense that the lack of competition is hurting this franchise.

This is just something I personally don't understand. I am not attacking your decision to stop buying/boycotting this game, its your choice. What I don't understand how player models mean that much that you would stop playing what I consider to be one of the better Baseball games ever made. Now we all know I am a Show "fanboy" and I defend them a bit more than I probably should. But I just don't see the player models being that big of a detriment to the game as whole. Obviously you feel this way and you have every right to your feelings and opinion, I just don't get it.

[jeffy777]

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I really hope online play is smooth and as lag free as possible this year. This is something I've always disliked about the game. I still have 14 and it was basically unplayable online so I gave up after a few games and just played offline, which was a drag. Was 16 better in this regard?

[baseballsim]

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I really hope online play is smooth and as lag free as possible this year. This is something I've always disliked about the game. I still have 14 and it was basically unplayable online so I gave up after a few games and just played offline, which was a drag. Was 16 better in this regard?

Yes a lot better.

Hope Retro mode can be played h2h. Was also hoping no bunting in retro mode but was told that will not be the case. Didn't realize bunting existed in video games back then.

[Phil Parent]

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All I want are editable options and service time in the editor....

I know, not sexy requests. Would make my life easier.

[Culture Rot]

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First of all, I am a classic team junkie going back to rosters I did in the 1980's and 90's for a variety of games...2K5 being the most notable. However, I did do many teams for various baseball games as well.

Listen...I am all in for having as much retro/classic stuff as possible. Uniforms, stadiums, etc. That's a no brainer for me. Customizable league set ups as well. Love it. Wish we had it. I'd never put the controller down.

However, SDS can not, and will not, add some of these things because it does not offer them a satisfactory ROI.

In addition, to do them right, they need the blueprints and schematics so they can reproduce.

That is also money out the door. How many people buy the game for these additions? Not enough to recoup the investment I would bet. I could be wrong.

DLC chargeable content? Possible. But as of now SDS has determined that they do not want to go this route and I am sure there are financial implications driving that as well.

Too many man-hours would need to be spent pulling these things together without a real business case where you could justify the expense and quantify the additional revenue.

That's my opinion. Ramone may "thumbs down" this post. I obviously do not know the ins and outs. I am only stating what I believe could be some of the considerations they have to take into account and why we have not seen as much attention to classic teams as you have outlined.

C

All do respect capa, I just reject the notions above. You can talk about ROI all you want. Not EVERY aspect of a product has to turn a financial profit. There's some things you just do to add to the quality of a product, and the consumer experience.

Again

It has all been done BEFORE. It is being done CURRENTLY. There are numerous examples of sports video games reaching a point where they decided it was OKAY to invest "man hours" and some money into fleshing out the experience of their game with retro content.

Why is MLB The Show the game, its development team, and its audience, so markedly different then?

I don't believe it is, and I think, if we are being optimistic here, we will see that this year.


On a separate note

Do you still have any of your old rosters you mentioned bud? I'd love to try all of them in case this Retro Mode falls through again.

[Smallville102001]

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No offense, but the Show 16 is FAR from perfect in terms of gameplay. How?

- Grounders down the line are singles 99.9% of the time (though this looks to be fixed in show 17)
- Pitcher not covering first on grounders to the first basemen resulting in an unrealistic number of infield hits.
- Bunting is ABSURDLY over-powered . . . still.
- The way the CPU manufactures rallies is insanely unrealistic. Real rallies are usually not comprised of the following sequence: error, walk, single, single, single, single, double, single, HR, single, k, double play.
- Animations on fly balls still kick in too late on hard hit liners, resulting in funky looking fly balls that hit fielders in the head, shoulder, stomach, etc. And the worst part is these are ruled HITS!
- The strike zone is still called WAY too high and WAY too inconsistently. Yes, umpires miss calls, but the complete lack of consistency for every umpire in the game is mind-blowing.
- Grounders up the middle that ricochet off the pitcher, yet the pitcher seems completely unfazed as he retrieves the ball in a second to get the runner at first.
- Cat-like reflexes from catchers jumping out of crouches to catch pop flies and field grounders.
- WAYYYYY too many infield pop ups and dinky ground balls in front of the plate.

This is just off-hand. Yes, the graphics can use an overhaul and the player models and grass look antiquated, but man, if you fix these nagging gameplay issues, I'd be more than satisfied.

1. The grounders down the line being singles 99.9% of the time is not true. I see a lot of grounders down the line that are doubles.
2. Pitchers always cover the bass like they should.
3. I wouldn't say bunting is over powered per say the problem is if you get a bunt down even if it is not a good one CPU will still just throw the ball over to first instead of throwing the ball to second and because of that it is to easy to move a guy over.
4. Don't see how CPU is unrealistic when it comes to that just sounds like you are not good at knowing how to use your bullpen.
5. Don't see any odd animations are fly balls. A few years ago this was a problem but not any more.
6. Yes they do call high but I don't really see it has a problem because by the rules they call what is a strike a strike its just in real life you don't get high pitches has much and yes they are inconsistence but they are just has bad in real life.
7. Ok this one I real give you but the amount of times pitchers get hit by a ball up the middle in mlb 16 was much less often and really lack of injures is kind of a issue in ever sports game ever made.
8. Don't see this.
9. Again I don't see this.


That is 9 problem and I would say 7 of those are not true and the other 2 are kind of small.

[Bullit]

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Ok this has just turned into another "this is whats wrong with The Show, no there is nothing wrong with The Show" thread. We are so far of topic. we can't even see the topic from where we are.

It was a one minute teaser, there will be more to come. But this one has run its course.

[Millennium]

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Ok this has just turned into another "this is whats wrong with The Show, no there is nothing wrong with The Show" thread. We are so far of topic. we can't even see the topic from where we are.

It was a one minute teaser, there will be more to come. But this one has run its course.

Agreed.

Talk about the trailer or move on.

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[Bullit]

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Ok I opened this back up. Stay on topic. Then next time I close it, it stays closed.

Patience is already wearing thin with the nonsense this year folks. Millennium has not posted the Ban Hammer speech yet, but believe me it is in full force already.

[countryboy]

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Ok I opened this back up. Stay on topic. Then next time I close it, it stays closed.

Patience is already wearing thin with the nonsense this year folks. Millennium has not posted the Ban Hammer speech yet, but believe me it is in full force already.

Thanks Bullit.


After watching the trailer, yet again , one thing I'm curious to see/hear about is changes, if any, to batted ball physics. That shot down the first base line just looks pretty.

[Bobhead]

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Thanks Bullit.


After watching the trailer, yet again , one thing I'm curious to see/hear about is changes, if any, to batted ball physics. That shot down the first base line just looks pretty.

Yes it was. It had that side spin and life to it, and looked headed towards the corner in a way we don't really see in current or recent games.

Physics is the #1 thing on my list this year, so I'm curious as well. If there aren't significant changes to bat/ball physics, I'm just gonna keep trucking right along in '16.

I look forward to (hopefully) hearing more about this topic in future trailers and announcements.

[DamnYanks2]

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Game looks fantastic to me, and I'm pumped about the Griffey mode.

Some of y'all just have incredibly, unrealistic expectations.

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[TattooedEvil]

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I cant remember if he was or not but I really hope Vlad makes it into this next game. Vlad, Griffey and Dowd (or w/e his name is every other year) would be nasty