MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

[Turbojugend]

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I challenge anyone to pull up YouTube gameplay of any of the past three PS4 versions and tell me that the differences have been overly noticable from year to year. Collecting digital baseball cards, dynamic lighting and Matrix slo mo doesn’t impress me. All of the classic ballparks have already been created and recycled from the PS3 build. Show me the old Yankee Stadium with the Ballantine scoreboard and I'll get excited.

I bought the last three games day one, so I can express a little frustration here with this years huge addition of R.B.I. Baseball mode and NB cleats. What this game desperately needs is a commentary system similar to what Madden has. You don't need Joe Buck or Harold Reynolds. This will help the grind of the 162 game schedule. The regular season games need to feel unique (like the NBA 2K series). The menus absolutely have to be improved. Roster management (scouting, minors, etc.) needs work as does the AI of the computer controlled teams. This isn't wishlist stuff here. Rain delays and better crowd animations are.

I'd love real sponsors (Citgo anyone?) and classic teams, but I understand the financial hurdles there. I am not interested in individual classic players. I don't want to integrate Jason Giambi with my Nationals franchise. I also don't give a fig about Ken Griffey Jr. The money Sony gave him could have been better spent elsewhere. Speaking of which, can the menu soundtracks be dropped?

Yes, it's a one minute trailer with pre-beta footage. However, when has the final build ever looked significantly better? Another member asked why with three months to go is there little information about this game. It's a great question. They have no competition. What little they did have (R.B.I. Baseball) has been addressed.

I want this series to evolve. Even NHL is making tremendous strides though after that catastrophe two years ago, there's nowhere to go but up. NBA 2K is a benchmark and Madden is excellent. Singing Sony's praises every year isn't going to change anything. Jersey wrinkles aren't ground breaking.

This is all fine and well, but your claim was that the last two years were nothing but roster updates. That claim was shot down and you responded with a wishlist.

And just because something doesn't "impress you" doesn't mean it isn't important to others.

[jeffy777]

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Not paying a dime till they fix the atrocious, stale, decade old commentary. Matty V's voice sets the game back 10 years and Karros is even worse. Would be nice if pitchers didn't get drilled in the back from line drives every other game too. Update the post game animations that are the same after every game since 2010.

How does Matty V's voice set the game back 10 years? I'd be a very sad panda if they ever replaced him. The dude is all over MLB Network these days, so he's even more relavent than he was 10 years ago...by a long shot.

Yes, I hope for more fluid, dynamic commentary, but don't get rid of Matty!

That said, I definitely agree about the post game animations. There needs to be more of a variety instead of the same stuff every game.

[Bullit]

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Dude is on the cover of their game and they can't even get his jersey to just say "GRIFFEY" and not "GRIFFEY JR."

That's embarrassing.

Also can I get a regular block font in DD please. I'm not the Red Sox or the gimmicky clown baseballers.

Actually what is embarrassing is you don't know your facts, just your opinions. Griffey did not add the Jr until later in his career.

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[TattooedEvil]

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best part about the complaints about this mode is that everyone is going to forget about is as soon as the next piece of news drops

[kehlis]

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Actually what is embarrassing is you don't know your facts, just your opinions. Griffey did not add the Jr until later in his career.

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That's pretty harsh considering nowhere in that video does his jersey have the Jr. on it which to my knowledge he never wore on his jersey which is what he's talking about.

[Lovesports]

When NBA 2K did this with Jordan it made sense because 2K has classic teams (a lot of them). I do not see the purpose or marketing behind Griffey being in the game or on the cover. What am I supposed to do with him? I don't play DD so his existence is completely irrelevant. Rather than waste time on gimmicks because let's be honest, this Griffey thing is a gimmick, why not address the things that your "real" fan base is asking for. Franchise mode improvements, player models, commentary etc. Gimmicks might bring in a few casual fans but you'll end up losing your hardcore fan base if you keep neglecting them.

[TripleCrown9]

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Actually what is embarrassing is you don't know your facts, just your opinions. Griffey did not add the Jr until later in his career.

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How much later? This is from his last season.

[capa]

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When NBA 2K did this with Jordan it made sense because 2K has classic teams (a lot of them). I do not see the purpose or marketing behind Griffey being in the game or on the cover. What am I supposed to do with him? I don't play DD so his existence is completely irrelevant. Rather than waste time on gimmicks because let's be honest, this Griffey thing is a gimmick, why not address the things that your "real" fan base is asking for. Franchise mode improvements, player models, commentary etc. Gimmicks might bring in a few casual fans but you'll end up losing your hardcore fan base if you keep neglecting them.

To be fair, we don't know that they have not done those things for 17. We have to wait and see.

Listen, I hold SDS feet to the fire as well. I am longing for some major gameplay updates and a real boost in graphics and animations. The things I want in the game and long for may only be what a small % of the customer base wants or is asking for. I am an oldtimer and classic team junkie. Would love more oldtime stadiums, uniforms, customizable league set ups, etc...but I get that this is not a huge fan base.

I am giving them the benefit of the doubt until March. The harsh reality is, the game is going to come up short for about half the folks and the other half will be more than happy with it. That's the way it is every year. You can only hope that your specific wants and needs get addressed, but we have to remember that many of these things don't make it to the top of the Bug/Marketing/Dev Priority list...regardless of how important we think they are.

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[Bullit]

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That's pretty harsh considering nowhere in that video does his jersey have the Jr. on it which to my knowledge he never wore on his jersey which is what he's talking about.

Sorry my bad. I miss read the original post. My apologies and I stand corrected.

[PhilliesFan13]

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I think one thing people seem to forget sometimes is that many more people than just the OS community buy this game. They have to cater to everyone. Not just us.

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[RLB]

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I know I am just an old guy who loves watching baseball and playing the show, but to draw so many opinions on a one minute trailer on something that is basically still four months from release..............

I will just sit back and see what the SDS boys serve up in four months before I draw my judgement.

[@legendm0de]

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When NBA 2K did this with Jordan it made sense because 2K has classic teams (a lot of them). I do not see the purpose or marketing behind Griffey being in the game or on the cover. What am I supposed to do with him? I don't play DD so his existence is completely irrelevant. Rather than waste time on gimmicks because let's be honest, this Griffey thing is a gimmick, why not address the things that your "real" fan base is asking for. Franchise mode improvements, player models, commentary etc. Gimmicks might bring in a few casual fans but you'll end up losing your hardcore fan base if you keep neglecting them.

The day before they announced this cover for the 2017 I guaranteed myself they will finally put retro teams in the next game after releasing a cover with Ken Griffey Jr on it I'm sure retro teams will be on the way. Plus adding Old Yankee stadium, alot of classic Yankee teams played there. It's pretty obvious to me why Griffey is on the cover, They just haven't announced it..

It's a good addition, I always like using individual players on this game so controlling players from history like Pete Rose, Craig Biggio, Pedro Martinez again would be a useful addition even more than classic NBA and NFL teams.

[Culture Rot]

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The day before they announced this cover for the 2017 I guaranteed myself they will finally put retro teams in the next game after releasing a cover with Ken Griffey Jr on it I'm sure retro teams will be on the way. Plus adding Old Yankee stadium, alot of classic Yankee teams played there. It's pretty obvious to me why Griffey is on the cover, They just haven't announced it.
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I am like you. I want to believe your right. But with each passing day, and actual announcements of 'Throw Back Pause Menu's', i lose hope we will get anything of substance. In terms of actual game content, I believe that is all we get. In terms of micro transaction stuff, we might get some more retro players, like there were last year. But nothing shock and awe that will make us retro fans sit up and take notice and demand our money. In the week since that last announcement and trailer reveal, its like a balloon deflated a lot of fan interest and optimism in this years game that some had after the Griffey cover. At the end of the day, a cover athlete is just a cover athlete.

[capa]

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The day before they announced this cover for the 2017 I guaranteed myself they will finally put retro teams in the next game after releasing a cover with Ken Griffey Jr on it I'm sure retro teams will be on the way. Plus adding Old Yankee stadium, alot of classic Yankee teams played there. It's pretty obvious to me why Griffey is on the cover, They just haven't announced it..

It's a good addition, I always like using individual players on this game so controlling players from history like Pete Rose, Craig Biggio, Pedro Martinez again would be a useful addition even more than classic NBA and NFL teams.

All they can do is add more Classic players a few each year...because they have to negotiate 1 on 1 with the player or their estate to get permission (and pay them) to put their name and likeness in the game.

This is why you will never see full classic teams in the game anymore. You are not going to see the game released with, let's say, the 1961 Yankees, 1967 Red Sox, 1975 Reds, etc. They can't because they players are no longer part of the MLBPA and would have to be negotiated 1 on 1 for all players that were on those teams.

So you will see additional oldtime players added as Legends...but for full teams from the past we will still have to rely on the dedicated and talented roster makers here.

C

[underdog13]

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When NBA 2K did this with Jordan it made sense because 2K has classic teams (a lot of them). I do not see the purpose or marketing behind Griffey being in the game or on the cover. What am I supposed to do with him? I don't play DD so his existence is completely irrelevant. Rather than waste time on gimmicks because let's be honest, this Griffey thing is a gimmick, why not address the things that your "real" fan base is asking for. Franchise mode improvements, player models, commentary etc. Gimmicks might bring in a few casual fans but you'll end up losing your hardcore fan base if you keep neglecting them.

Franchise players aren't any more "real" than online players.

Again, Griffey was the most requested DD player by far. Hardly a gimmick.