MLB The Show 17 Adds MLB Network with Harold Reynolds, Dan Plesac & Matt Vasgersian

[CujoMatty]

Love how the Canadians on OS are uniting against Harold Reynolds.

Would like to see them get into a "I'm not your buddy, guy" routine with him ala South Park. LOL

And I thought my distaste for Harold Reynolds was strong...some people act like he cuckolded them or something. It's not that serious, bro

Ya boycotting the game is crazy but seriously he sucks. Ill get used to it but id be lying if i said i wasnt dissapointed with this news.

[aguero90]

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Lol!! I broke DiMaggios hitting streak in RTTS, proud moment for me! But man, those lines... 58 games in a row!

[jgb3]

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Hate to be a debbie downer... but as a stats guy, this is too hard to ignore... The statcast numbers that they are showing are laughably inaccurate to the point where this feature is an eyesore. You wouldn't want the tape measure to say you hit a 575 foot HR when it scraped the wall, so why would you settle for this fake data?

• Exhibit A: Andrus "sprinting" home at 18.42 MPH in the clip. Andrus is capable of hitting 20.9 MPH as per the screenshot below. A-Rod is capable of reaching 19 MPH, having been measured as fast as 20 MPH in 2015.

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• Exhibit B: Justin Turner hits what is probably the farthest HR in MLB history. Exit Velo of 118.3 with a launch angle of 33.1?! For context, Kris Bryant hit a 495 foot bomb, the farthest HR of 2015, with a nearly identical launch angle. He only hit it 111.1 MPH. There have been two home runs in statcast HISTORY hit harder than that... both by Stanton. Both were at a launch angle below 25 degrees. The home run in the video is probably 525 feet plus based on "similar" home runs (which basically do not exist)

• Exhibit C: Troy Tulowitzki guns out a runner with an absolute laser to first. Love the animation, but 78 mph is a farce. Khris Davis, the fielder with literally the worst arm in the game, averages 78 MPH on competitive outfield throws. That throw is basically as hard as any I've ever seen in a baseball video game, and they're saying it's only 78 MPH. Per a Mike Petriello article from earlier this month, here are the 5 worst OF arms in baseball, measured by the top 5% of these outfielders throws from 2016.

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[nemesis04]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Adds MLB Network with Harold Reynolds, Dan Plesac & Matt Vasgersi

Since it was a day game Adrus must of had some heat soak going on! Slower speed times.

[thaSLAB]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Adds MLB Network with Harold Reynolds, Dan Plesac & Matt Vasgersi

Good grief, i don't particularly care for harold reynolds myself, but i would never let him influence my decision on whether or not to buy something because he is affiliated with it. I really don't respect Puig as a ball player and felt he didn't deserve to be on the cover of The Show, but i still bought the game. I would still prefer hearing Reynolds this year than hearing whoever (lyons or karros) did the obnoxiously loud and off timed "hitting streak lines". Those lines made me regret having a player on a hit streak.

"Oh my goodness!..." "no wayyyyy!" "that was awesome!..."

Hate to be a debbie downer...

Are you sure? That's a lot of analysis there.
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[leinhart_6]

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Harold Reynolds has to be one of my favorite baseball commentators of all time! Something about his voice is just so unique and he knows what he's talking about. I remember when he was featured in a few tutorial/feature videos in the early days of MVP Baseball

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Adds MLB Network with Harold Reynolds, Dan Plesac & Matt Vasgersi

Hate to be a debbie downer... but as a stats guy, this is too hard to ignore... The statcast numbers that they are showing are laughably inaccurate to the point where this feature is an eyesore. You wouldn't want the tape measure to say you hit a 575 foot HR when it scraped the wall, so why would you settle for this fake data?

• Exhibit A: Andrus "sprinting" home at 18.42 MPH in the clip. Andrus is capable of hitting 20.9 MPH as per the screenshot below. A-Rod is capable of reaching 19 MPH, having been measured as fast as 20 MPH in 2015.

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• Exhibit B: Justin Turner hits what is probably the farthest HR in MLB history. Exit Velo of 118.3 with a launch angle of 33.1?! For context, Kris Bryant hit a 495 foot bomb, the farthest HR of 2015, with a nearly identical launch angle. He only hit it 111.1 MPH. There have been two home runs in statcast HISTORY hit harder than that... both by Stanton. Both were at a launch angle below 25 degrees. The home run in the video is probably 525 feet plus based on "similar" home runs (which basically do not exist)

• Exhibit C: Troy Tulowitzki guns out a runner with an absolute laser to first. Love the animation, but 78 mph is a farce. Khris Davis, the fielder with literally the worst arm in the game, averages 78 MPH on competitive outfield throws. That throw is basically as hard as any I've ever seen in a baseball video game, and they're saying it's only 78 MPH. Per a Mike Petriello article from earlier this month, here are the 5 worst OF arms in baseball, measured by the top 5% of these outfielders throws from 2016.

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Some thoughts about this post...

1. It's good to point this stuff out and I'm sure there will be some growing pains for adding these to the OSDs.

2. Variation. Just because Andrus hit 20.9 mph once going from home to 3B doesn't mean he'll hit that same speed in every game and situation. Going between different bases could be different. In general, it's not totally convincing comparing a one-off vs another one-off if you want to draw a larger conclusion.

3. As for throwing speeds...whether it's an INF or OF throw matters. You're comparing an OF with his feet set and momentum coming toward the INF to Tulo going into the hole and throwing as he leaps away from 1B off his back foot.

4. For homers, the wind and atmospheric conditions matter also. The launch angle and exit velocity are not the only parameters governing distance. I'd also suggest that sliders will probably need to be tuned anyhow, so the Statcast parameters might change depending on what settings you have on.

[jgb3]

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Some thoughts about this post...

1. It's good to point this stuff out and I'm sure there will be some growing pains for adding these to the OSDs.


2. Variation. Just because Andrus hit 20.9 mph once going from home to 3B doesn't mean he'll hit that same speed in every game and situation. Going between different bases could be different. In general, it's not totally convincing comparing a one-off vs another one-off if you want to draw a larger conclusion.

The difference between 20.9 MPH and 18.5 MPH is massive. If you want variation, why not make Billy Butler run 22 mph? You cannot concede to the idea that it is okay for A-Rod to have a faster 3rd to home top speed than Elvis Andrus going 2nd to home. That is asking for disaster.

3. As for throwing speeds...whether it's an INF or OF throw matters. You're comparing an OF with his feet set and momentum coming toward the INF to Tulo going into the hole and throwing as he leaps away from 1B off his back foot.

That is not what a 78 mph throw looks like.

4. For homers, the wind and atmospheric conditions matter also. The launch angle and exit velocity are not the only parameters governing distance. I'd also suggest that sliders will probably need to be tuned anyhow, so the Statcast parameters might change depending on what settings you have on.

Of course wind and atmopshere matters, but that home run is unparallered based on two years of hard data. Again, only two home runs in the statcast era have ever been hit that hard WITH wind and atmospheric conditions accounted for. None were at that launch angle. Both were Stanton, and about 10 degrees lower. I'm not buying it.

[rabnothimself]

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#notmybroadcaster, haha just joking, i like the addition of Harold Reynolds. This MLB network package is a game changer. I've been wanting an authentic broadcast package for years with the show, especially since many sports games are doing it now.


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[nymets31]

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The fact that Russell and the SCEA team heard what people on this board have asked for over the years and keep improving it, says a great deal about the product they make! I for one am completely happy with the commentary and presentation this year. Thank you SCEA, you guys are amazing!!

[Trackball]

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I don't think I've ever heard Harold Reynolds, so I will withhold judgment until the game arrives.

That said...wow, BA2929, please tell me you're joking.

If it was Joe Buck, THAT could be a deal-breaker. But him? He can't be THAT bad.

[dalger21]

Are you sure? That's a lot of analysis there.
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This made me choke from laughing so hard.

[Agatorfan]

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What's the big deal about Reynolds? I don't watch MLB a lot so I wouldn't know

[buck135]

I don't think I've ever heard Harold Reynolds, so I will withhold judgment until the game arrives.

That said...wow, BA2929, please tell me you're joking.

If it was Joe Buck, THAT could be a deal-breaker. But him? He can't be THAT bad.

Oh he's much worse than Joe Buck. Just look into why he is no longer with ESPN. As far as his "talent," Reynolds is even worse than Michael Kay if you can believe that. I'll buy this game second hand if there is an option to turn his volume off. I'm not sending a nickel his way.

[bukktown]

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Just chiming in to say "Bravo SDS!"
Looks so good!!