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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5658

    #31
    Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

    I'm not thrilled about player quirks in franchise mode. I'd like one mode in the game which is free of that gimmicky arcade stuff. But if it's in the game I'll try to figure out the best way to use it.

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    • jvalverde88
      Moderator
      • Jun 2008
      • 11787

      #32
      Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

      I love the player quirks, it reminds me obviously of player badges in NBA 2K but also special skills in PYS which is another baseball game.
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      • TheBleedingRed21
        Game Dev
        • Oct 2010
        • 5071

        #33
        Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

        Originally posted by Mitchrapp
        Not sure I ever understood the difference between casuals and hard core players.. Anyone want to take a stab at it and describe it to me in 20 words or less? Thanks.
        In my opinion it's simple.

        Casuals want to just play the game of baseball quickly and move on to the next game.

        Hardcore wants to play the game of baseball at a real life pace and go in depth in their franchise.

        More than 20 words but I overachieve.
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        • HypoLuxa13
          MVP
          • Feb 2007
          • 1156

          #34
          Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

          Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
          In my opinion it's simple.

          Casuals want to just play the game of baseball quickly and move on to the next game.

          Hardcore wants to play the game of baseball at a real life pace and go in depth in their franchise.

          More than 20 words but I overachieve.
          Add on to this - Sony San Diego tracks (via metadata or whatever) how people play the game. They know RttS and Diamond Dynasty are their most played modes. They probably know how many users sim in Franchise Mode and how often they do it. They probably know how far INTO a franchise the average user gets (I think they mentioned once upon a time that a LOT of people never even finish a full season in Franchise).

          Even if these features are not important to a lot of users here on OS, they may be VERY important to the other 99% of their user base who may be frustrated with how much time it takes to progress through a Franchise.

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          • Impetuous65
            MVP
            • Feb 2015
            • 1451

            #35
            Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

            I would love for quirks to be a dynamic OSD menu option, the quirk shows up at the batter walk up based on the situation. Just as a quick reminder to the end user as a scouting tool.

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            • tessl
              All Star
              • Apr 2007
              • 5658

              #36
              Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

              Originally posted by jw9036
              Finally, appeared in MLB The Show. I love quirks (player's special ability). Great SDS!! thanks~~



              I disagree for this reason - I've played NBA and nothing about it is statistically accurate. It is pure arcade fun.

              Statistical accuracy is - or was - the heart and soul of franchise mode and all these attribute modifiers known as quirks are going to skew the stats. For me - speaking only for myself - it is a move away from MLB IRL.

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              • El_MaYiMbE
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1427

                #37
                Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                Originally posted by Impetuous65
                I would love for quirks to be a dynamic OSD menu option, the quirk shows up at the batter walk up based on the situation. Just as a quick reminder to the end user as a scouting tool.

                I would not like this as it breaks away from the presentation package and eliminates the feeling that I am watching a live game.

                It should be available in the pause menu somewhere or in the lineup screen.
                Quirks are like soft/intangible skills and should not be displayed during the "broadcast".

                The announcers however should mention things like that when the situation comes up...no need to show it.

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                • Impetuous65
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 1451

                  #38
                  Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                  Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
                  I would not like this as it breaks away from the presentation package and eliminates the feeling that I am watching a live game.

                  It should be available in the pause menu somewhere or in the lineup screen.
                  Quirks are like soft/intangible skills and should not be displayed during the "broadcast".

                  The announcers however should mention things like that when the situation comes up...no need to show it.
                  There can be an option for those who would like that info without pausing. I just did a rough draft of the image, I would prefer it only be the icon to less intrusive.

                  The batter walk up is OSD driven anyway, so a quick Quirk Icon wouldn't be too much on the screen, especially when it is only available for situations afforded by the quirk.

                  Last edited by Impetuous65; 03-07-2017, 02:10 PM.

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                  • Will I Am
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 926

                    #39
                    Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    I'm not thrilled about player quirks in franchise mode. I'd like one mode in the game which is free of that gimmicky arcade stuff. But if it's in the game I'll try to figure out the best way to use it.
                    How is it arcadey or gimmicky to have attributes rise and fall in certain situations relating to a player's real life situations? Too me it adds what people are wanting in sports games and that is to give more player separation and individuality. Then again I guess we'll see how it turns out.

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                    • Mike Lowe
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 5286

                      #40
                      Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                      Originally posted by HypoLuxa13
                      Add on to this - Sony San Diego tracks (via metadata or whatever) how people play the game. They know RttS and Diamond Dynasty are their most played modes. They probably know how many users sim in Franchise Mode and how often they do it. They probably know how far INTO a franchise the average user gets (I think they mentioned once upon a time that a LOT of people never even finish a full season in Franchise).

                      Even if these features are not important to a lot of users here on OS, they may be VERY important to the other 99% of their user base who may be frustrated with how much time it takes to progress through a Franchise.
                      I may have skewed the simming data by trying various slider combos to fix their pitcher handling during simmed games.
                      Last edited by Mike Lowe; 03-07-2017, 02:39 PM.

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                      • tessl
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5658

                        #41
                        Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                        Originally posted by HypoLuxa13
                        Add on to this - Sony San Diego tracks (via metadata or whatever) how people play the game. They know RttS and Diamond Dynasty are their most played modes. They probably know how many users sim in Franchise Mode and how often they do it. They probably know how far INTO a franchise the average user gets (I think they mentioned once upon a time that a LOT of people never even finish a full season in Franchise).

                        Even if these features are not important to a lot of users here on OS, they may be VERY important to the other 99% of their user base who may be frustrated with how much time it takes to progress through a Franchise.
                        Those user stats apply to people playing online or logged into their playstation account. I don't go online to play franchise and I'll bet I'm not alone. If the goal is to make more people play franchise by adding more arcade stuff to the mode I believe they are making a mistake.

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                        • Will I Am
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 926

                          #42
                          Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                          Originally posted by Impetuous65
                          I would love for quirks to be a dynamic OSD menu option, the quirk shows up at the batter walk up based on the situation. Just as a quick reminder to the end user as a scouting tool.

                          With PYS the skills (quirks) can change from pitch to pitch and is shown on-screen.

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                          • saintloue28
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 61

                            #43
                            Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                            Love the new additions. Just give me create a team and I'll be set.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52690

                              #44
                              Re: More MLB The Show 17 Franchise Mode Details, Including Player Quirks

                              Originally posted by tessl
                              Those user stats apply to people playing online or logged into their playstation account. I don't go online to play franchise and I'll bet I'm not alone. If the goal is to make more people play franchise by adding more arcade stuff to the mode I believe they are making a mistake.
                              You keep claiming that quirks are "arcadey" yet we have no idea the effect they will have on the game, what all of them are, nor what attributes they effect.

                              Can we at least wait until we receive more information and how they work inside the game before we start calling them "arcadey"?

                              People are letting their assumptions get the best of them today..
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                              • RogerDodger
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 1082

                                #45
                                Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                                The key take away from this is don't toss Rizzo a breaking ball while your leading in the 9th and there's 2 outs and 2 strikes with a runner on third.

                                Jokes aside, I definitely like this addition though, like others here, I REALLY hope they can either:

                                a) be edited and/or added to CAPs

                                and/or

                                b) can be gained/lost based on in-franchise performance

                                Definitely has me intrigued and even more curious to hear more on Thursday.

                                Also, and admittedly off-topic, 17 looks flat out AWESOME. Some of these faces...whoa!
                                That's a great point. Will the pitching team be aware of the opposing lineup's quirks so you know what to avoid? I'm a big fan of the idea but it would be good to know if they are dynamic from year to year. I was also hoping to hear some stuff about improving the free agent process.

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