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  • kenp86
    MVP
    • May 2008
    • 2979

    #1951
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Dee Gordon for Sean Doolittle straight up. Fair? Realistic? Got it offered to me. Second off season.

    Have Healy at 3, Semien at short and now Gordon at second. With Khris Davis, Hamilton and a second year stud i drafted in year one in the outfield, plus schwarber at dh (traded cotton and montas) and matt olsen at first this year, think we're ready to contend now. Rotation of gray, manaea, mengden, graveman, puk think itll happen.
    Last edited by kenp86; 05-08-2017, 08:06 AM.
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    • GamecocksLaw17
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #1952
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by kenp86
      Dee Gordon for Sean Doolittle straight up. Fair? Realistic? Got it offered to me. Second off season.

      Have Healy at 3, Semien at short and now Gordon at second. With Khris Davis, Hamilton and a second year stud i drafted in year one in the outfield, plus schwarber at dh (traded cotton and montas) and matt olsen at first this year, think we're ready to contend now. Rotation of gray, manaea, mengden, graveman, puk think itll happen.
      This doesn't make a ton of sense. If the Marlins are selling off Gordon, they wouldn't have much use for a closer. When you see these young MLB position guys for a closer deal it looks more like the Wade Davis for Soler deal. You have a contender getting the reliever and the rebuilder getting the position guys. Your scenario is the opposite. So if you want Gordon you will have to give up prospects and if you want rid of Doolittle you could get prospects for him or send him to a contender. But this scenario is leading to the 2019 season and at that point he only has his 2 option years.

      Originally posted by milldaddy35
      Thoughts, anyone?
      I don't think Kyle Gibson has much value. He just got optioned in real life. He's a back of the rotation guy. You could probably get a C or C+ prospect if you're pushing it, but he won't get you anything that really moves the needle.

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      • Hardworker33
        Rookie
        • Jun 2013
        • 128

        #1953
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Hi guys! 1st season (OSFM roster) with the Braves. Big surprise as I am 57-41, leading the division 4.0 over Nats but they are getting hotter & hotter (I had 9.0 over 3 weeks before) and I lost Swanson for the season and Teheran is set to come back after 2 months out.


        I'm in a slump right now and offense is very very dry but pitching is top 3. I win/lose with low score games. Since my record is a surprise, I'd like to push for playoffs this year (faster than I thought).


        I'd like to get a very good left batting (if possible or I'd be ok with right handed) OF with contact/power/good D and youngish since I plan to build with a young core. Any realistic suggestions?


        It would need Markakis to be included + any prospects needed (hoping for 2-3 high B's. I'd like to keep my A's.. depending on the player obviously).


        Thanks!
        Last edited by Hardworker33; 05-08-2017, 11:50 AM.

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        • kenp86
          MVP
          • May 2008
          • 2979

          #1954
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
          This doesn't make a ton of sense. If the Marlins are selling off Gordon, they wouldn't have much use for a closer. When you see these young MLB position guys for a closer deal it looks more like the Wade Davis for Soler deal. You have a contender getting the reliever and the rebuilder getting the position guys. Your scenario is the opposite. So if you want Gordon you will have to give up prospects and if you want rid of Doolittle you could get prospects for him or send him to a contender. But this scenario is leading to the 2019 season and at that point he only has his 2 option years.
          Only reason he became available was that Miami signed Dozier in offseason and they drafted a ss in year one who'll be startimg for them in year 3
          Last edited by kenp86; 05-08-2017, 11:54 AM.
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          • GamecocksLaw17
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            • Jun 2015
            • 1503

            #1955
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by kenp86
            Only reason he became available was that Miami signed Dozier in offseason
            Even still. 3 years of Dee Gordon is worth more to the Marlins than 2 years of Sean Doolittle. Why couldn't they move him to SS? Or trade him for prospects to help their future. Do they still have Aj Ramos? Would you trade a starting position player for a set up man not named Andrew Miller?

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            • kenp86
              MVP
              • May 2008
              • 2979

              #1956
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
              Even still. 3 years of Dee Gordon is worth more to the Marlins than 2 years of Sean Doolittle. Why couldn't they move him to SS? Or trade him for prospects to help their future. Do they still have Aj Ramos? Would you trade a starting position player for a set up man not named Andrew Miller?
              They drafted a ss in year one who'll be starting for them in year 3. Ramos is gone.
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              • The Left Shark
                Rookie
                • Mar 2015
                • 461

                #1957
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                Even still. 3 years of Dee Gordon is worth more to the Marlins than 2 years of Sean Doolittle. Why couldn't they move him to SS? Or trade him for prospects to help their future. Do they still have Aj Ramos? Would you trade a starting position player for a set up man not named Andrew Miller?
                Unless I missed it a few pages back or something, he didn't say what was going on in his season in that post. Dee Gordon could be doing bad for all we know. Maybe the Marlins are contending where it could make sense to deal him off for a good reliever (like your Davis-Soler example) while A's see if he can bounce-back.

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                • GamecocksLaw17
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                  • Jun 2015
                  • 1503

                  #1958
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by The Left Shark
                  Unless I missed it a few pages back or something, he didn't say what was going on in his season in that post. Dee Gordon could be doing bad for all we know. Maybe the Marlins are contending where it could make sense to deal him off for a good reliever (like your Davis-Soler example) while A's see if he can bounce-back.
                  Unless the Marlins are coming off of an NL East championship or a run in the playoffs I don't see why they would think they are a reliever away. That's where I am having issues. They would be better off trading him for future help than 2 years of an average to slightly above average reliever. He also didn't tell us how Doolittle was pitching. If he was doing great why would he want to trade him when he thinks he will be a contender this season?

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                  • kenp86
                    MVP
                    • May 2008
                    • 2979

                    #1959
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                    Unless the Marlins are coming off of an NL East championship or a run in the playoffs I don't see why they would think they are a reliever away. That's where I am having issues. They would be better off trading him for future help than 2 years of an average to slightly above average reliever. He also didn't tell us how Doolittle was pitching. If he was doing great why would he want to trade him when he thinks he will be a contender this season?
                    Ramos got traded to TX for Mendez straight up. Miami had a down year. Going into year 3, miami now has a ss they drafted in year one starting who looks to be a stud. Signed Dozier. Offered me Gordon sttsight up for Doolittle who is my closer. Up to a 91 overall. Yes i am going in as a contender, but 2nd base has been my weakness on this team since i started. Gordon would fix this and give Miami that closer they need after trading Ramos.
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                    • GamecocksLaw17
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                      • Jun 2015
                      • 1503

                      #1960
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by kenp86
                      Ramos got traded to TX for Mendez straight up. Miami had a down year. Going into year 3, miami now has a ss they drafted in year one starting who looks to be a stud. Signed Dozier. Offered me Gordon sttsight up for Doolittle who is my closer. Up to a 91 overall. Yes i am going in as a contender, but 2nd base has been my weakness on this team since i started. Gordon would fix this and give Miami that closer they need after trading Ramos.
                      If they're coming off a down year why do they need a closer? The 2017 Braves don't need a closer because they won't be good.

                      You can get Gordon but you need to give them something that helps them long term. Not something thats just 2 years of excess for you

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                      • kenp86
                        MVP
                        • May 2008
                        • 2979

                        #1961
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                        If they're coming off a down year why do they need a closer? The 2017 Braves don't need a closer because they won't be good.

                        You can get Gordon but you need to give them something that helps them long term. Not something thats just 2 years of excess for you
                        Doolittle and Matt Chapman for Gordon work?
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                        • GamecocksLaw17
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                          • Jun 2015
                          • 1503

                          #1962
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by kenp86
                          Doolittle and Matt Chapman for Gordon work?
                          I don't think Doolittle needs to be involved give them Chapman and a B or low B prospect and go on your way and get to keep Doolittle

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                          • hampshirestags
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 500

                            #1963
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Hardworker33
                            Hi guys! 1st season (OSFM roster) with the Braves. Big surprise as I am 57-41, leading the division 4.0 over Nats but they are getting hotter & hotter (I had 9.0 over 3 weeks before) and I lost Swanson for the season and Teheran is set to come back after 2 months out.

                            I'm in a slump right now and offense is very very dry but pitching is top 3. I win/lose with low score games. Since my record is a surprise, I'd like to push for playoffs this year (faster than I thought).

                            I'd like to get a very good left batting (if possible or I'd be ok with right handed) OF with contact/power/good D and youngish since I plan to build with a young core. Any realistic suggestions?

                            It would need Markakis to be included + any prospects needed (hoping for 2-3 high B's. I'd like to keep my A's.. depending on the player obviously).

                            Thanks!
                            Let me present this back to you as if I am on the other end of this phone call...

                            You want one of the better players on my team (and I imagine, cost controlled as well). For the privilege of doing business with you I get to eat 16mm and have Markakis block whatever potential player I have coming up (or have a very expensive bench warmer). Along with getting to select a couple of your 2nd tier prospects because you'd like to keep your elites.

                            If you don't like Markakis, cut him. If someone picks him up, you're off the hook. Otherwise, you're going to have a tough time getting a competitor to buy into that deal. You have the pieces to get something like this done but you're going to keep that contract and open up to the possibility of moving one of your top prospects (depending on the player).

                            Who did you have in mind? Come up with a couple and I can help you value them and that way you can choose. However, at 57-41 and 4 games up (no way this works out in a sim, I'm assuming you're pushing the buttons for most/all of your games), why mess with success?
                            "for love of the game" - B. Chapel

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                            • bailey4mvp
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1593

                              #1964
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              With all the drama around Matt Harvey what would it take to get him on the Rangers or Redsox?


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                              • GamecocksLaw17
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 1503

                                #1965
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by bailey4mvp
                                With all the drama around Matt Harvey what would it take to get him on the Rangers or Redsox?


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                                So Hampshire and I expected to get some of these. We are thinking it will take a couple of B prospects and one of them should probably be a B+ prospect . Harvey isn't an ace anymore but he's still a good pitcher. The Red Sox are hard because their prospects are either elite or just kind of guys. If Texas wants to include Gallo I'm sure you could work off that pretty easy

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