MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[Bard]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

In the spirit of Ernie Banks "...lets play two", why not both? With the Cubs staff not firing on all cylinders, it would not shock me at all to see them put something together with Gray/Happ IRL. In your franchise, we could help them in the two spots they need.

As a matter of fact (stay with me here, I'm feeling creative this morning), what about Schwarber + Happ for Gray + Doolittle? Similar to a few years ago when Billy overpaid for Shark, Theo returns the favor (with Lester in his ear about Gray's work ethic and competitiveness) and hits Billy with an offer that ends all other negotiations (he knows the Phillies are talking to the A's about Gray). Schwarber is overrated with A POT and depending on the roster you're using Happ is either B+/A- however, this leave the Cubs farm full and gives the A's 2 guys for their core rebuild.

The Mets, now scared they are going to miss the train departing (and labeling Rosario untouchable), reach out to ARZ for R.Ray to bolster their staff and put together a package something like Nimmo+Alonso+Becerra. Nothing that stands out but enough pieces to help the Dbacks with some athletes as they have plenty of developmental pitching. Maybe throw in a RP from ARZ and the lottery ticket of your choice from the Mets to make all things equal.

The Phillies watch all this happen but instead of trying to go all in this year and not wanting to stand "Pat Gillick" to keep fan interest alive, go get a vet bullpen piece in the 11th hour to help keep the pressure off their young starters. Would love Casilla here for the story perspective, if not T.Watson or someone along those lines to move a piece or two (depending on who they target) from the surplus.

This still leaves you with a few minor deals that can be made to hit your quota. We didn't help the White Sox out any but they got enough in the offseason that I don't feel bad about it. The Rays decide to hang onto Archer 1 more year because he just simply costs too much for everybody else and nobody is beating the HOU package from the winter meetings.

Absolutely perfect.

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Done deal:

Cubs Receive:
Sonny Gray
Sean Doolittle


Athletics Receive:
Kyle Schwarber
Ian Happ


Oakland is going to have a scary offense next year. Olson and Chapman are recently called up and hitting the ball well. Barreto will be up in September...

Ian Happ 2B
Franklin Barreto SS
Kyle Schwarber DH
Matt Chapman 1B
Ryon Healy 3B
Matt Olson RF


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- Robbie Ray and Fernando Rodney have been traded to the New York Mets for Brandon Nimmo, Alonso, Beretta, and a lotto.


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Tony Watson has very identical stats to 2016 as I remember from last night...what do you think the Phillies would need to give up for him?



Thank you for your help!



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[holden57]

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Lost the 2017 World Series to the Giants in my Blue Jays franchise. We're in the off season now and I'm looking to make some trades. Any feedback is appreciated!

TO OAK: Dalton Pompey
TO TOR: Sean Doolittle

Oakland is re-building still, and Pompey will get a chance to be their starting CF in 2018 and prove if he is an everyday MLBer.


TO NYM: Anthony Alford+Reese McGuire+C prospect
TO TOR: Matt Harvey

Harvey has had his off field issues, and NYM have a stacked rotation without him (Syndergaard, deGrom, Matz, Wheeler, Gsellman and they also traded for Phil Hughes)


TO TBR: Harold Ramirez
TO TOR: Brad Miller

Miller had a not so great year (508AB, 22HR, 58RBI, .226AVG, .301OBP, .708OPS, -1.9WAR) so I'm hoping Tampa would be willing to let him go but maybe not to a division rival.

[hampshirestags]

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Any thoughts?

In division? Highly unlikely. Not to mention Garver was put on the 40 man last year, he's ready to back up Castro now. Gimenez is just holding his seat on the bench.

You might have a better shot if Robertson was a rental but even then, I don't think MIN would move Garver for a RP, even a closer. Plenty of teams are going to be in on Robertson, there should be a better home for him.

Edit: this is why I don't try to answer multiple questions at a time! I saw you were trying to buy Robertson so now divisional tax comes into play. This is just a bad fit all the way around. I didn't do any research on this but have MIN and CHW ever done business? In the post below I let T.Watson slide for a B, how's he doing in your franchise?

[hampshirestags]

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Absolutely perfect.

Tony Watson has very identical stats to 2016 as I remember from last night...what do you think the Phillies would need to give up for him?

Thank you for your help!

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Give them C.Tocci. Good prospect and if he can add some muscle, has a chance to play (plus/plus pitch recognition). I tried to come up with a PTBNL type but that farm is so deep, I gave up trying. I can get to a B level player for Watson in my mind and with the scenario I presented, PIT would probably just be happy the phone rang with Robertson still on the market.

[SquidBoy69]

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Would anyone know what I could get for yunel Escobar would be big help he's got 5hr 29 RBI is batting 267 325 382 with a 707 ops


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[hampshirestags]

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Lost the 2017 World Series to the Giants in my Blue Jays franchise. We're in the off season now and I'm looking to make some trades. Any feedback is appreciated!

TO OAK: Dalton Pompey
TO TOR: Sean Doolittle

Oakland is re-building still, and Pompey will get a chance to be their starting CF in 2018 and prove if he is an everyday MLBer.


TO NYM: Anthony Alford+Reese McGuire+C prospect
TO TOR: Matt Harvey

Harvey has had his off field issues, and NYM have a stacked rotation without him (Syndergaard, deGrom, Matz, Wheeler, Gsellman and they also traded for Phil Hughes)


TO TBR: Harold Ramirez
TO TOR: Brad Miller

Miller had a not so great year (508AB, 22HR, 58RBI, .226AVG, .301OBP, .708OPS, -1.9WAR) so I'm hoping Tampa would be willing to let him go but maybe not to a division rival.

Have I mentioned I don't like trading Doolittle? I hope the Hybrid guys push his Durability down to like 10 or something so this issue doesn't come up anymore! His line last year will dictate the cost but if you're trading for him, I'd imagine it will cost more than Pompey (plus, Pompey an every day player? ehhh..maybe?)

Harvey is B+/B-. Though, in the offseason, he will be in last year of eligibility so this could be considered a season long rental. Alford fits but I don't think there is much of a need for McGuire. How did you do in the draft? Is there somebody there we can use?

TB doesn't do that deal. You're going to have to overpay for a poor mans version of Aaron Hill. Plus, nobody wants to see the guy they traded hit HR's over the 20 some odd games they play against each other every year.

Would anyone know what I could get for yunel Escobar would be big help he's got 5hr 29 RBI is batting 267 325 382 with a 707 ops


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Does he come with a check? A 34 yr old rental that is 30 points off his career OPS with a less than average glove (which means he's losing range at 3B). Look for a club with a need for an injury replacement and you can get a low C project, no ranked prospects.

[SquidBoy69]

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Ok cheers for the help


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[Mattchu12]

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All the Gerrit Cole buzz is starting to get to me, what's it take to get him to the Bronx if he's having a typical Cole year? Anyway it happens without Torres? I'm thinking not.

[hampshirestags]

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All the Gerrit Cole buzz is starting to get to me, what's it take to get him to the Bronx if he's having a typical Cole year? Anyway it happens without Torres? I'm thinking not.

I saw something in a headline about this yesterday and didn't even bother to read it because I thought it was click bait. I guess now its a buzz? Suppose I have some surfing to do while I wait for Willard's 40 man roster.

The "ask" is going to be ridiculous because, as with Q and Archer, the Pirates don't need to trade him and he will be almost as valuable next year as he is this year with it being his first year of arbitration. Let's go ahead and keep it ridiculous in here until it's proven otherwise (didn't look to see if we've talked about him before). I'm not even going to bother with the math.

Torres+Frazier+Sheffield+...let's throw in Montgomery for good measure (though, being fair, that might make Sheff swap out with a lesser P prospect).

There are only a handful of teams that can pull this type of deal off, NYY is one of them (HOU, CHC, COL?) everybody else can stop dreaming now. How's that for a bubble burster on a Saturday night?!

[Mattchu12]

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I saw something in a headline about this yesterday and didn't even bother to read it because I thought it was click bait. I guess now its a buzz? Suppose I have some surfing to do while I wait for Willard's 40 man roster.

The "ask" is going to be ridiculous because, as with Q and Archer, the Pirates don't need to trade him and he will be almost as valuable next year as he is this year with it being his first year of arbitration. Let's go ahead and keep it ridiculous in here until it's proven otherwise (didn't look to see if we've talked about him before). I'm not even going to bother with the math.

Torres+Frazier+Sheffield+...let's throw in Montgomery for good measure (though, being fair, that might make Sheff swap out with a lesser P prospect).

There are only a handful of teams that can pull this type of deal off, NYY is one of them (HOU, CHC, COL?) everybody else can stop dreaming now. How's that for a bubble burster on a Saturday night?!

Well, the Cole trade buzz has been going on since the offseason I feel like, but with the Pirates season seeming like it's going south with Marte gone and McCutchen not coming back around, I feel like it's only going to increase from here on out. He's going to get pricier than the Pirates are going to want to pay and the odds are in favor of him being dealt to bolster their future.

That being said, I agree. I'm thinking Torres + Frazier with at least one of the Sheffield/Mateo/Adams/Fowler/Kaprelian bunch included.

[hampshirestags]

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Well, the Cole trade buzz has been going on since the offseason I feel like, but with the Pirates season seeming like it's going south with Marte gone and McCutchen not coming back around, I feel like it's only going to increase from here on out. He's going to get pricier than the Pirates are going to want to pay and the odds are in favor of him being dealt to bolster their future.

That being said, I agree. I'm thinking Torres + Frazier with at least one of the Sheffield/Mateo/Adams/Fowler/Kaprelian bunch included.

Yeah, there was some talk but I don't put much stock in that as everybody gets the 'check in' call. I posted an article a week or two ago with GM's talking about how Trout is a non-starter. They know because, well, they checked in on him.

To be clear, I'm not trying to be a jerk and say it can't be done. The Yanks could certainly do this. I'm just saying you're going to have to give PIT the pick of the litter (I just read something that had Montgomery in a possible deal so it makes more sense with him and Torres headlining) and if you want to do that for a guy that had tricep and elbow issues just last year (uh oh!) and has Dr. Andrews on speed dial...the store is open!

[pickle2002]

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Hi guys I'm in the second week of June in my blue jays franchise and I'm looking for a everyday LF and a 4th outfielder. I had acquired Billy Burns from the royals earlier on for an 4th outfielder but about 10 games ago he tore his ACL and is out for the rest of the season. I made a list of guys I like for both LF and 4th OF spots and I would like to know their values. The only guy I don't want to trade would be Vlad Jr. SRF would also be nice to keep but that would probably be hard to do.
LF- Looking for guys who can hit.

JD Martinez
Stats- No stats since he is in the minors due to his injury (OSFM)

Cain
Stats-44 G 4 HR 16 RBI .217 AVG .691 OPS

Piscotty
Stats- 52 G 9 HR 31 RBI .254 .755 OPS

Cruz
Stats-55 G 11 HR 33 RBI .259 AVG .814 OPS

Revere
Stats- 47 G 2 HR 10 RBI .223 AVG .614 OPS 10 SB

Span
Stats- 51 G 1 HR 14 RBI .274 AVG .621 OPS

4 OF- Mainly looking for good speed and fielding but I also have some guys in there that can hit well. Most of these guys i think won't cost more than a C or two but would like to make sure.

Spoiler

Jon jay-
STATS- 49 G 1 HR 20 RBI .259 AVG .615 OPS

Craig gentry-
Stats- 35 G 0 HR 6 RBI .242 AVG .554 OPS 5 SB

Lagares-
Stats- NA ( In minors)

Dyson-
Stats- 45 G 0 HR 8 RBI .274 .720 OPS 15 SB

Parra-
Stats- 51 G 2 HR 15 RBI .218 AVG .556 OPS

Orlando-
Stats- 49 G 5 HR 16 RBI .258 AVG .710 OPS

Granderson-
Stats- 49 G 5 HR 13 RBI .215 AVG .649 OPS (I know he has a 15 mil contract but it is the final year of it and I hit well with him)

Thanks for the help.

[hampshirestags]

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Hi guys I'm in the second week of June in my blue jays franchise and I'm looking for a everyday LF and a 4th outfielder. I had acquired Billy Burns from the royals earlier on for an 4th outfielder but about 10 games ago he tore his ACL and is out for the rest of the season. I made a list of guys I like for both LF and 4th OF spots and I would like to know their values. The only guy I don't want to trade would be Vlad Jr. SRF would also be nice to keep but that would probably be hard to do.
LF- Looking for guys who can hit.

JD Martinez
Stats- No stats since he is in the minors due to his injury (OSFM)

Cain
Stats-44 G 4 HR 16 RBI .217 AVG .691 OPS

Piscotty
Stats- 52 G 9 HR 31 RBI .254 .755 OPS

Cruz
Stats-55 G 11 HR 33 RBI .259 AVG .814 OPS

Revere
Stats- 47 G 2 HR 10 RBI .223 AVG .614 OPS 10 SB

Span
Stats- 51 G 1 HR 14 RBI .274 AVG .621 OPS

4 OF- Mainly looking for good speed and fielding but I also have some guys in there that can hit well. Most of these guys i think won't cost more than a C or two but would like to make sure.

Spoiler

Jon jay-
STATS- 49 G 1 HR 20 RBI .259 AVG .615 OPS

Craig gentry-
Stats- 35 G 0 HR 6 RBI .242 AVG .554 OPS 5 SB

Lagares-
Stats- NA ( In minors)

Dyson-
Stats- 45 G 0 HR 8 RBI .274 .720 OPS 15 SB

Parra-
Stats- 51 G 2 HR 15 RBI .218 AVG .556 OPS

Orlando-
Stats- 49 G 5 HR 16 RBI .258 AVG .710 OPS

Granderson-
Stats- 49 G 5 HR 13 RBI .215 AVG .649 OPS (I know he has a 15 mil contract but it is the final year of it and I hit well with him)

Thanks for the help.

Before we get into the values, I've got a couple of names I'm curious on (though this goes against every fiber of my being considering my O's owe you guys a whooping!)

Where are E.Carrera and D.Pompeny in all of this? Have you looked at the FA list to see if there is a fit? I read in one of the Dynasty threads that someone (I forgot who) had some level of success with W.Balentien (currently banging around overseas). Alford should be chomping at the bit for a shot and H.Ramirez should be right in front of him.

The above comments aside, you've got some B+C level guys listed in Martinez and Cain (this is where SRF may come into play). Hard 'no' on Piscotty, you don't want to hear a price for Cruz and Lagares is under contract so a soft 'no' on him as a 4th. I've got Revere more as a 4th at this point in his career (I personally can not hit with him, weird leg kick) and you're probably going to have to overpay for Span. The rest of the guys, including Gentry (but excluding Dyson) could be had for about what you'd expect.

Two more things I'll leave you with... a) you're 30 games from the break. What are the chances one of these teams goes 20-10 and changes the landscape? b) sometimes you gotta dance with who brought you and see if you can keep the boat afloat until reinforcements arrive.

[pickle2002]

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Before we get into the values, I've got a couple of names I'm curious on (though this goes against every fiber of my being considering my O's owe you guys a whooping!)

Where are E.Carrera and D.Pompeny in all of this? Have you looked at the FA list to see if there is a fit? I read in one of the Dynasty threads that someone (I forgot who) had some level of success with W.Balentien (currently banging around overseas). Alford should be chomping at the bit for a shot and H.Ramirez should be right in front of him.

The above comments aside, you've got some B+C level guys listed in Martinez and Cain (this is where SRF may come into play). Hard 'no' on Piscotty, you don't want to hear a price for Cruz and Lagares is under contract so a soft 'no' on him as a 4th. I've got Revere more as a 4th at this point in his career (I personally can not hit with him, weird leg kick) and you're probably going to have to overpay for Span. The rest of the guys, including Gentry (but excluding Dyson) could be had for about what you'd expect.

Two more things I'll leave you with... a) you're 30 games from the break. What are the chances one of these teams goes 20-10 and changes the landscape? b) sometimes you gotta dance with who brought you and see if you can keep the boat afloat until reinforcements arrive.

Carrera is currently my 4th and is hitting .107/.150/.105 (i don't do well with him). Pompey is in AAA playing as the everyday CF, batting .229 in the lead off spot with 3 SB and 6 RBI. I was hoping he would do a bit better than what he is now. If he is batting around .260 or so around the break I was planning on calling him for a few games to see how he does. I have looked at the FA list and i saw two guys I like. Angel Pagan was one and the other one was Josh Willingham (I think that was his name?) who had like 90+ power or something crazy like that. I feel that both Alford and Ramirez still need some time in the minors.

As for Martinez and Cain, you said B + C could Alford be the B or would it have to SRF? If it was Alford would the C turn into two Cs or a low B? My favourites for LF spot are Cain and Markakis. Markakis I didn't have on the list since he was discussed a lot so I know his value. I agree with you on revere. He probably is more of a 4th and yeah his leg kick is really weird. I like gentry, granderson, Orlando and dyson for the 4th OF spot. How much are we looking at for dyson?

Thanks for the reply and all the help!

[holden57]

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Could something be done around SRF and Charlie Blackmon? He is a great hitter, solid fielder and has above average speed.