MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[The Left Shark]

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That is a actual good debate. Did the Cubs really win the Chapman trade? I'm a huge Cubs fan and I'm grateful for the championship after all these years. But, we lost 2 good prospects in the trade and no Chapman. Yes the Cubs obviously won the trade if you look at it as they won the World Series that is the ultimate goal. But could the Cubs have gone to the Royals to get Wade Davis for less last year? Could Wade Davis have won them the world series? Who knows. I would like to see the Cubs get Quintana. That way the Cubs could let Arrieta walk after this year if the money is too high.

Wasn't Wade Davis hurt? And I am by no-means saying Schwarber will suck in his career but he is basically a one-dimensional player. The guys on the bench and in minors could potentially be more well-rounded guys. Plus they'd still have Torres.

I'm just saying one who wants to deal position player depth playing as the Cubs in a franchise or a team wanting Schwarber in their franchise could make a deal trading starting pitching prospects and one could chalk it up as making sense. Cubs are very thin in pitching in the minors and about to potentially lose Arrieta after this year and probably Lackey as well. Or they can trade guys like Happ and Jimenez for cost-controlled guys already pitching well at the MLB level on another team. Gotta make room for all these guys somehow and moving Schwarber is an option.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Wasn't Wade Davis hurt? And I am by no-means saying Schwarber will suck in his career but he is basically a one-dimensional player. The guys on the bench and in minors could potentially be more well-rounded guys. Plus they'd still have Torres.

I'm just saying one who wants to deal position player depth playing as the Cubs in a franchise or a team wanting Schwarber in their franchise could make a deal trading starting pitching prospects and one could chalk it up as making sense. Cubs are very thin in pitching in the minors and about to potentially lose Arrieta after this year and probably Lackey as well. Or they can trade guys like Happ and Jimenez for cost-controlled guys already pitching well at the MLB level on another team.

There's no way to be sure Torres will be a good player. His prospect status is huge, but I'd take 5 years of Schwarber over 6 of Torres. That's just my opinion obviously but I doubt you find one person in the Cubs front office that believes they made a mistake in keeping Schwarber

[The Left Shark]

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There's no way to be sure Torres will be a good player. His prospect status is huge, but I'd take 5 years of Schwarber over 6 of Torres. That's just my opinion obviously but I doubt you find one person in the Cubs front office that believes they made a mistake in keeping Schwarber

And I agree. They won the World Series. Mistake wasn't the correct word to use. But going forward past last year's World Series, you can make an argument that they could trade him for pitching prospects (something along the lines of the Adam Eaton deal) and to open space for some of their other youth.

[bryanm1982]

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I would think if it came down to it the Cubs would let go of Schwarber only if it made sense for them short term and long term. It would be a hard pill to swallow for Cub fans cause of what he did in the World Series. And I think you are right. Davis was hurt or hurt often last year. I think they made the right choice last year with making the trade for Chapman. Would they do the same trade this year to get a elite closer if Davis fails? Probably not.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I am thinking that I might want to shop Didi Gregorius in my yankees franchise but I wasnt sure what kind of value that I could get for him. Not even sure if i really want to shop him. Also was curious about what kind of value that I could get for Tanaka.

If you use the search function you can find previous conversations on both Gregorius and Tanaka. I'd rather not try again and give out conflicting data.

I was offered this deal by the Yankees and want to know what you guys think.

It is the first week of May in my Braves Franchise. Yankees are in first but their starting rotation is hurting. I currently have Bartolo on the block. He is 3-1 with a 3.48 era. Here is the deal.

Braves get:
Billy McKinney/OF - 60 - B

Yankees Get:
Bartolo Colon/P - 78 - A
Ryan Howard/1B - 70 - b (Hitting .300 with 1 Hr as a PH for me)
C rated OF Prospect

I don't know that its unfair, but it doesn't really make a ton of sense. McKinney isn't that good and neither is Ryan Howard. If you want to do this though, I don't see why not.

What would it take to bring Marcel Ozuna, Jake Lamb or Sonny Gray to the Padres?

Ozuna: Marlins would want young pitching. Adrian Morejon or Cal Quantrill would have to be involved. Probably add in Tatis Jr.
Lamb:Would take a good bit. Along the same lines as Ozuna give or take.
Gray:Hunter Renfroe plus a player like Jacob Nix maybe.

To get any of these guys you will have to use your better prospects. You would get to keep Espinoza, Margot, etc but you'd have to give up some higher level guys.

[sc050610]

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I am not familiar with the Reds farm system besides just from what I have read about them online. What would the Reds be looking for in return for a Zack Cozart who is performing similar to his career averages? He is slashing .255/.298/.409. with 6 HRs and 22 RBIs through June 17th in my franchise.

Would two low to mid B prospects be enough for him?

[TysonKnowsBest]

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I would think if it came down to it the Cubs would let go of Schwarber only if it made sense for them short term and long term. It would be a hard pill to swallow for Cub fans cause of what he did in the World Series. And I think you are right. Davis was hurt or hurt often last year. I think they made the right choice last year with making the trade for Chapman. Would they do the same trade this year to get a elite closer if Davis fails? Probably not.

Are you serious? If the Cubs were presented with an offer for pitching prospects they would be dumb to not take it. Arrieta is about to be in a contract year and Lester isn't getting any younger. Schwarber is a huge liability on defense and missed the whole season the Cubs went to the World Series. He was a non-factor on the Cubs getting there and his bat in October was merely a cherry on top of the sundae if anything. Kyle Schwarber is one of the most expendable trading pieces this year.. especially if a team in the AL is offering pitching prospects. Since when do fans have any impact on whether a team trades a player or not?

[bryanm1982]

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Are you serious? If the Cubs were presented with an offer for pitching prospects they would be dumb to not take it. Arrieta is about to be in a contract year and Lester isn't getting any younger. Schwarber is a huge liability on defense and missed the whole season the Cubs went to the World Series. He was a non-factor on the Cubs getting there and his bat in October was merely a cherry on top of the sundae if anything. Kyle Schwarber is one of the most expendable trading pieces this year.. especially if a team in the AL is offering pitching prospects. Since when do fans have any impact on whether a team trades a player or not?

I think they should trade Schwarber for pitching prospects or a Chris Archer or Jose Quintana. I think it would take Happ, another prospect like Jimenez or Candaleiro and Schwarber. What I mean is I don't think they would trade Happ and Jimenez to get a elite closer like they did last year if Davis doesn't work out or gets hurt.

And no I don't think the fans would have a impact on the decision and they shouldn't. But would the fans miss Schwarber? Yes.

[Armor and Sword]

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I like the Ellsbury/Wainwright offer. I think it helps both teams. And STL has some pitching depth to cover the loss of Wainwright.



Are those offers come to you on a screen or do you go the to trade screen and select Ellsbury and shop all offers?

Yes select Ellsbury and shop all offers.


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[HighCmpPct]

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Hey what's up again. I know we worked out a possible Rajai Davis back to Cleveland trade earlier this year but now I want to talk about a possible trade in my Cubs chise.

Again I'll probably be looking to pull the trigger on this one around the same time as the Davis trade in my Indians chise, probably sometime in June.

The chise is up to today's date, and my Cubs are 17-14. So with everything that's come to light recently and the feel from their clubhouse I'm interested in giving Matt Harvey a new home in Chicago. With everything that's happened between him and the Mets, and the Mets seemingly treating him like they're done do 9th him, his injury history, and his diminished returns since the Thoracic Outlet surgery what would be a good deal to get this done.

Again there's still a month or so before we hit June but here are the numbers.

Cubs: 17-14 T-1st NL Central

Mets: 16-16 3rd NL East 3.56gb Was

Harvey: 0-2 4.50era 28K 7BB 32.0IP 1.25whip 3QS 33H 16ER 4HR 0.6war 7.88K/9 1.97BB/9 3.56FIP 3.51ERC 1.09PFR

[Armor and Sword]

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I think you'd have to add a bit of a prospect to Ellsbury. He's not worth his contract at this point. Also in 3 weeks when Fowler is back what do the Cards do with Ellsbury? Make him a $20+ million a year 4th OF?

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Agreed on adding a prospect foe Wainwright.
How about Revere though.

I kinda am leaning to that as I desperately need a plus speed guy like him to cause havoc on the bases.


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[GamecocksLaw17]

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Agreed on adding a prospect foe Wainwright.
How about Revere though.

I kinda am leaning to that as I desperately need a plus speed guy like him to cause havoc on the bases.


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You'd either have to add a prospect or eat cash. The Angels have been trying to stay under the luxury tax and adding an expensive 4th OF doesn't help that goal. What does Ellsbury do that's better than Maybin? And is it worth paying 4 years of $21 million a year to get it?

I know Revere isn't good but you'd have to eat some cash to help the Angels handle the salary. So find a bad contract from the Angels and then you've got some shot

[BennyXavier]

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I seriously doubt Ellsbury is leaving the Yankees without getting cut. Why would anybody bother? What does Ellsbury do for $22 million that you can't get some guy to do for $2.2 million? Ells is an average MLB outfielder making All-Star money. Why would any team care enough to entertain even a salary dump?

[HighCmpPct]

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You'd either have to add a prospect or eat cash. The Angels have been trying to stay under the luxury tax and adding an expensive 4th OF doesn't help that goal. What does Ellsbury do that's better than Maybin? And is it worth paying 4 years of $21 million a year to get it?

I know Revere isn't good but you'd have to eat some cash to help the Angels handle the salary. So find a bad contract from the Angels and then you've got some shot

You could eat $9 million dollars worth of Huston Street.

[Brandwin]

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Yes select Ellsbury and shop all offers.


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Must be solo franchise and not 30 team control on this one, right? I've never gotten CPU offers using 30 team control...