MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[sc050610]

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Just that he's awesome it would take a big package but there aren't many teams that have a need at SS or 3b and an awesome farm while also competing

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Really the only team I keep coming back to is the Yankees. The need is there, they are winning now instead of a year or two from now. However, would they move Torres, possibly Fraizer or Rutherford and then some for 1.5 years of Machado. This is where I am struggling to pull the trigger on a move as I would like to keep it realistic in whatever move I do but I also at the same time want my cake and eat it too by retooling for the future that probably doesn't include him.

I eliminated the White Sox and Braves since they are cellar dwellers and in complete rebuild mode. The Astros and Cubs have the systems but again probably rather spend their prospects on pitching before a bat. Plus, I don't see the Astros moving Bergman in a deal. I also looked at the Rockies as they have a pretty decent farm but again despite them winning right now, I don't see them selling the farm for a guy unless its a controllable Ace in Sonny Gray or Archer.

[sc050610]

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So midseason BA has Frazier 21 and Sheffield 69 so your target should be roughly ranked 25-30 and 75ish. There are two big issues when comparing Miller and Britton. The first is Miller's ability to go 2 or 3 innings during October baseball. That's super valuable and not something Britton has shown. The second issue is contract related. At the time or the trade Miller had 2.5 years of control at $22.5 total. Britton has 1.5 years of control and already has an arbitration salary of $11.4 this year and will likely approach $14 or $15 million next year. So you're comparing 2.5 years for $22.5 versus 1.5 years and maybe $20.5. You basically get an extra year at $2 million for the Miller side

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Good point about the contracts. I still can't believe we claimed he was too expensive. Anyway, I will take a look at guys in those areas and see where I can find a fit. Not at my console but I know the Nationals and Astros could use an upgrade at closer.

[brandonholmes]

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Really the only team I keep coming back to is the Yankees. The need is there, they are winning now instead of a year or two from now. However, would they move Torres, possibly Fraizer or Rutherford and then some for 1.5 years of Machado. This is where I am struggling to pull the trigger on a move as I would like to keep it realistic in whatever move I do but I also at the same time want my cake and eat it too by retooling for the future that probably doesn't include him.

I eliminated the White Sox and Braves since they are cellar dwellers and in complete rebuild mode. The Astros and Cubs have the systems but again probably rather spend their prospects on pitching before a bat. Plus, I don't see the Astros moving Bergman in a deal. I also looked at the Rockies as they have a pretty decent farm but again despite them winning right now, I don't see them selling the farm for a guy unless its a controllable Ace in Sonny Gray or Archer.

How are the Mets doing? They were a good fit for Donaldson in another trade we agreed upon earlier, and have Rosario, Conforto and some interesting pitching prospects to dangle plus a need at 3B/SS.

[sc050610]

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How are the Mets doing? They were a good fit for Donaldson in another trade we agreed upon earlier, and have Rosario, Conforto and some interesting pitching prospects to dangle plus a need at 3B/SS.

Didn't think about them. They are 4 games back in the NL East and either tied for the first wild card spot with the Giants or a .5 game or a game back of the 1st wild card.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Didn't think about them. They are 4 games back in the NL East and either tied for the first wild card spot with the Giants or a .5 game or a game back of the 1st wild card.

I'm not saying you couldn't get him in the game, but in real life I wouldn't trade Conforto for Machado right now.

2017 WAR so far:
Conforto: 2.4
Machado: 1.3

Years of team control after 2017:
Conforto: 5 years
Machado: 1 year

[sc050610]

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I'm not saying you couldn't get him in the game, but in real life I wouldn't trade Conforto for Machado right now.

2017 WAR so far:
Conforto: 2.4
Machado: 1.3

Years of team control after 2017:
Conforto: 5 years
Machado: 1 year

If I would target the Mets, I would probably focus my attention on acquiring pitching and one of Dominic Smith or Rosario.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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If I would target the Mets, I would probably focus my attention on acquiring pitching and one of Dominic Smith or Rosario.

If you search for what we said on Donaldson to the Mets you'd be looking at basically the same. I expect I said something like Rosario + Gsellman but I could be mistaken.

[brandonholmes]

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I'm not saying you couldn't get him in the game, but in real life I wouldn't trade Conforto for Machado right now.

2017 WAR so far:
Conforto: 2.4
Machado: 1.3

Years of team control after 2017:
Conforto: 5 years
Machado: 1 year

I wouldn't either, but Conforto is one of those odd cases where he's breaking out in real life but might not be in the game. Perfect example was my test franchise where he went something like .083/.180/.200 in April and himself pretty much plastered to the bench afterwards. Collins seemed kind of hesitant to use him in April this year IRL, so I don't think it's unreasonable to say they would package him pre-breakout for someone like Machado or Donaldson if they had a chance at a ring. Obviously real life circumstances are much different in this case, lol.

Anyhow if he's looking for Rosario/Smith/pitching, does our earlier JD trade of Rosario/Smith/Gsellman (assuming he's not breaking out) work in this case as well? Same amount of control, pretty comparable players as two-run rentals.

Edit: You beat me to it! I believe it was Rosario/Smith/Gsellman or something similar. If he's after pitching, I would think Rosario/Gsellman/Dunn could work too if he's not rated too high in game.

[HakeemtheDream]

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The Astros are not trading Bregman

How sure are you about this? I'm an Astros fan and hear a lot of talk about how we should've traded Bregman for Sale when we had the chance, he's been having a lackluster year and our rotation could really use a #1 pitcher right now. Martes and Paulino have both been bad in the bigs and likely lessened their value as well. I figure Archer is at least as valuable as Sale, who brought back Moncada in his trade. Bregman=Moncada in my eyes.

Would including a pitching prospect (Honeywell) or maybe throwing in Adames make the deal more fair?

If Bregman is completely out of the picture who's the best young MLB ready player Archer could fetch? Bellinger? Bogaerts/Benintendi? Swanson?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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How sure are you about this? I'm an Astros fan and hear a lot of talk about how we should've traded Bregman for Sale when we had the chance, he's been having a lackluster year and our rotation could really use a #1 pitcher right now. Martes and Paulino have both been bad in the bigs and likely lessened their value as well. I figure Archer is at least as valuable as Sale, who brought back Moncada in his trade. Bregman=Moncada in my eyes.

Would including a pitching prospect (Honeywell) or maybe throwing in Adames make the deal more fair?

If Bregman is completely out of the picture who's the best young MLB ready player Archer could fetch? Bellinger? Bogaerts/Benintendi? Swanson?

To answer the last question. Red Sox say no to both Bogaerts and Benintendi. Braves would never do Swanson. Maybe you could get Bellinger, but in real life I doubt they do it. Teams don't like trading young MLB assets they'd rather deal prospects that are less sure of a thing.

The Rays also would never add one of their best prospects to their best asset to help in a trade. That's robbing Peter to pay Paul

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[sc050610]

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If you search for what we said on Donaldson to the Mets you'd be looking at basically the same. I expect I said something like Rosario + Gsellman but I could be mistaken.

Thanks for all the help. I will go back and find it the mentioned trade.

Edit: I see it was posted in the next comment. Thanks again for the help.


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[HakeemtheDream]

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To answer the last question. Red Sox say no to both Bogaerts and Benintendi. Braves would never do Swanson. Maybe you could get Bellinger, but in real life I doubt they do it. Teams don't like trading young MLB assets they'd rather deal prospects that are less sure of a thing.

The Rays also would never add one of their best prospects to their best asset to help in a trade. That's robbing Peter to pay Paul

Gotcha, thanks for all the help.

I'll just do Bellinger and try not to fret about the realism of it so much.

[Hardworker33]

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5 days before deadline, I made a deal with SD (31-75) to push for a playoffs spot.

How's the value ? (I'm now 2 days before, so I'd swing another deal with them to even it out if I offered something too light).

Braves

Yangervis Solarte (.247/5HRs/28 RBI's)
Carter Capps (0-3/2,54 ERA/1,28 WHIP)

Padres

SP Luiz Gohara (21 YO/B POT/63 OVR)
CF Dalton Pompey (25 YO/B POT/71 OVR)
C Justin O'Connor (26 YO/B POT/73 OVR)
RP Antonio Cisneros (21 YO/C POT/72 OVR)
RP Akeel Morris (25 YO/C POT/76 OVR)

Thanks!

[themadcap]

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Hey guys. I'm looking to get Jonathan Villar back to the Phillies. I'm in year 2018 of my franchise. Brewers have a glut of good middle infield prospects and have had Villar on the trade block all season (mid June now). He's having a fine year .265 BA, .358 OBA, 7HR, 13 SB. What will it take to pry him away? Brewers are in need of young, capable starters as their rotation is pretty sad and I could use a true shortstop (much like real life Crawford just won't start hitting) to slide Hernandez back to second. I have tons of pitching prospects: Sixto Sanchez, Goudy, Kilome, Mason (18y.o. A pot) and Groome picked up from the Red Sox in a trade. I also have young still unproven starters in Eflin, Thompson, Lively (all B pot) and Mengden that I picked up from A's in trade (also B pot.). I would also consider sending back Kingery who could play 2b or any outfield spots (B pot.)

Here is one trade I have considered:

Brewers get:

Goudy 20 yo B pot SP 70 OVR
Lively 26 yo B pot SP 76 OVR
Kingery 24 yo B pot 77 OVR

Phillies get:

Villar

Any of you guys have a take? I'm not having much luck finding a solid value for Villar. Thanks.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Hey guys. I'm looking to get Jonathan Villar back to the Phillies. I'm in year 2018 of my franchise. Brewers have a glut of good middle infield prospects and have had Villar on the trade block all season (mid June now). He's having a fine year .265 BA, .358 OBA, 7HR, 13 SB. What will it take to pry him away? Brewers are in need of young, capable starters as their rotation is pretty sad and I could use a true shortstop (much like real life Crawford just won't start hitting) to slide Hernandez back to second. I have tons of pitching prospects: Sixto Sanchez, Goudy, Kilome, Mason (18y.o. A pot) and Groome picked up from the Red Sox in a trade. I also have young still unproven starters in Eflin, Thompson, Lively (all B pot) and Mengden that I picked up from A's in trade (also B pot.). I would also consider sending back Kingery who could play 2b or any outfield spots (B pot.)

Here is one trade I have considered:

Brewers get:

Goudy 20 yo B pot SP 70 OVR
Lively 26 yo B pot SP 76 OVR
Kingery 24 yo B pot 77 OVR

Phillies get:

Villar

Any of you guys have a take? I'm not having much luck finding a solid value for Villar. Thanks.

How did you get Groome out if curiosity and not sure you're giving up a good enough headliner for Villar

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