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  • UNDERTAKER1215
    Pro
    • Oct 2011
    • 692

    #2971
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
    I'm going to take a stab at these. So UNDERTAKER I'll work on yours first. Franco isn't moving if the Phillies are within 2 games of the WC. He's likely a key piece in them competing.

    You could get Lowrie I would imagine a C+ to B- prospect. Maybe a Brian Johnson + Josh Ockimey gets it done.

    Tyler Flowers is on the last year of his deal. You also want a utility so lets find a way to get you a C and UTL. What about Flowers + Jace Peterson for Blake Swihart. You get short term fix at C and a guy who can play a bunch of positions for one of your Catchers you seem to have soured on.

    I think I previously mentioned a Mesoraco + Cozart deal to you so I'll stick to whatever I previously said there.

    Villar broke out big time last year. And he has a lot of team control. The Brewers would want something good in return. I'd think the Brewers would take something like E-Rod +
    Dalbec

    Brandon Drury could definitely be obtained. The DBacks have an easy replacement in Ketel Marte. The DBacks always need more arms so maybe something like Raudes and a lotto ticket like Josh Tobias

    Solarte has a decent bit of value. The Padres seem to be asking for a lot in their trades though. He's signed for the next 4 years and pretty cheap. The Padres really need a SS of the future, but you don't have that. I'm not sure how to get you Solarte without an overpay. We might have to come back to this one.
    I like the Flowers deal, but what would Cozart by himself cost? Straight up for E-Rod?

    Also, for the Flowers deal, could I substitute Sean Rodriguez (212 AB, 21 R, 10 HR, 32 RBI, 1 SB, .236 AVG) for Peterson or would he cost more?
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    • GamecocksLaw17
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #2972
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by UNDERTAKER1215
      I like the Flowers deal, but what would Cozart by himself cost? Straight up for E-Rod?

      Also, for the Flowers deal, could I substitute Sean Rodriguez (212 AB, 21 R, 10 HR, 32 RBI, 1 SB, .236 AVG) for Peterson or would he cost more?
      That's probably fine I forgot about Rodriguez on the Braves

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      • UNDERTAKER1215
        Pro
        • Oct 2011
        • 692

        #2973
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
        That's probably fine I forgot about Rodriguez on the Braves

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        And what about Cozart? Sorry to keep at you guys with this.
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        • BA2929
          The Designated Hitter
          • Jul 2008
          • 3342

          #2974
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by milldaddy35
          Wondering what I could get for Austin Jackson. Hitting 248 with 3 homers in 105 ab. War of .05 through 40 games. Free agent after this season.

          Probably 1 or 2 low rated prospects from a team who has been hit with a plethora of OF injuries early in the season.

          You're not going to get much for him with those stats, that early in the season. Not many teams trade for a guy like that 40 games in unless disaster has struck.
          Last edited by BA2929; 07-04-2017, 06:06 PM.
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          • GamecocksLaw17
            MVP
            • Jun 2015
            • 1503

            #2975
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by UNDERTAKER1215
            And what about Cozart? Sorry to keep at you guys with this.
            Something like a B and a C+

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            • BetteRedthnDead
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 44

              #2976
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              How many trades typically happen during a real-life MLB season (not including offseason)?

              I am doing 30-team control and want to make enough moves around the league to somewhat replicate real life.


              If anyone knows the answer, my question would also apply to the offseason; do we know the average number of league-wide trades in any given offseason?

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              • GamecocksLaw17
                MVP
                • Jun 2015
                • 1503

                #2977
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by BetteRedthnDead
                How many trades typically happen during a real-life MLB season (not including offseason)?

                I am doing 30-team control and want to make enough moves around the league to somewhat replicate real life.


                If anyone knows the answer, my question would also apply to the offseason; do we know the average number of league-wide trades in any given offseason?

                Go Giants
                From a quick search it seems like over 100 for sure. 2014 had 151 players traded in July and 2015 had 154 players traded

                So in actual trades thats probably something like 40 or so
                Last edited by GamecocksLaw17; 07-05-2017, 01:26 PM.

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #2978
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                  You don't think they pass up the chance to add Chris Davis' 6 years and $138 million left on his deal? That's a whole lot of money to take on
                  That is not what his contract is in game, and I don't know that the conversion from real contract to game contract is constant. I haven't checked but I think the game only changes contracts at the high end. I don't factor in real life contracts.

                  After making the trade Davis maybe barely makes the top 10 in terms of annual salary on the Rangers.

                  Sure its not a good contract for them, but I think the pros outweigh the cons for them. They are in the mix for a division title (6 games back in mid June) and for both CP and 1B, their previous starters were rated around 72. With the makeup of their roster they look to be in win now mode.

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                  • rjackson
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1661

                    #2979
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Prior to the season starting (like Mar 31st), how would you have felt about Quintana for Delvin Perez, Carson Kelly, and Harrison Bader? I actually feel like StL is a 45FV prospect short - but would StL have done that deal?

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                    • Mattchu12
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 648

                      #2980
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      If Gray and Alonso play up to how they have in real life, ERA around 4 for Gray and a .280/.370/.550-ish slash around 15-20 homers for Alonso, what would they cost the Yankees at the deadline?

                      Gray has a lot of control, but also a rough couple years behind him, and not setting the world on fire, just being more a reliable arm. Alonso is obviously having a great year, but it's an outlier and you have to worry he's Xavier Nady 2.0 if he falls off. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it takes.

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                      • rjackson
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1661

                        #2981
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Mattchu12
                        If Gray and Alonso play up to how they have in real life, ERA around 4 for Gray and a .280/.370/.550-ish slash around 15-20 homers for Alonso, what would they cost the Yankees at the deadline?

                        Gray has a lot of control, but also a rough couple years behind him, and not setting the world on fire, just being more a reliable arm. Alonso is obviously having a great year, but it's an outlier and you have to worry he's Xavier Nady 2.0 if he falls off. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it takes.
                        Gleyber is the headliner for Gray. Him plus Kaprelian and a wild arm. Or, Frazier/Rutherford maybe?, Mateo, Sheffield.
                        Last edited by rjackson; 07-05-2017, 06:22 PM.

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                        • Mattchu12
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 648

                          #2982
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by rjackson
                          Gleyber is the headliner for Gray. Him plus Kaprelian and a wild arm. Or, Frazier/Rutherford maybe?, Mateo, Sheffield.
                          I cannot imagine Gleyber for Gray, let alone Gleyber plus those guys. That extra control is great, but Gray's injury history and rough couple of years don't get Gleyber in my book. Guess that's a dead end.

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                          • rtwilli4
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 226

                            #2983
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Mattchu12
                            I cannot imagine Gleyber for Gray, let alone Gleyber plus those guys. That extra control is great, but Gray's injury history and rough couple of years don't get Gleyber in my book. Guess that's a dead end.


                            I agree it wouldn't be a good trade for the Yankees, but that is who the A's would ask for. It only takes one GM to overpay for Gray, so they'll ask for an overpayment until they get one.





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                            • GamecocksLaw17
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 1503

                              #2984
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Mattchu12
                              I cannot imagine Gleyber for Gray, let alone Gleyber plus those guys. That extra control is great, but Gray's injury history and rough couple of years don't get Gleyber in my book. Guess that's a dead end.
                              You will limit your pitching options if you refuse to allow Gleyber to be mentioned anywhere. But for a Gray + Alonso packager I agree the A's would ask about Torress but I think you could get it done for Frazier + Mateo + Sheffield + Adams. Still a tall task but you keep your top prospect

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                              • BetteRedthnDead
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 44

                                #2985
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                                From a quick search it seems like over 100 for sure. 2014 had 151 players traded in July and 2015 had 154 players traded

                                So in actual trades thats probably something like 40 or so
                                yeah, I had trouble finding an exact number. though i didn't look too long. i'll probably do something like 15-25 per year. back in my youth i did not do 30 team and the cpu would execute 5-10 trades per year....

                                a lot of realism comes from dfa'ing guys, the many minor league transactions, and keeping up with in-season performance which isnt worth the time for me personally.

                                whats fun is executing the unfair trades every once in awhile

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