MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[babybombers]

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Not playing Beltre there? And what about profar at third?

He is talking down the road post Beltre. I would go after Vlad Jr. He will be ready in 2 years and perfect timing for Beltre to retire. Toranto is also in win now mode as they have their best chance to win now and their window is closing.

[kenp86]

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Also got ke'bryan hayes in Pittsburgh too

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Guerrero Jr. is definitely of interest. I had forgotten that Toronto moved him to 3rd. That said, Toronto went out of their way to acquire Guerrero Jr. so I don't know how willing they would be to part with him, you know? But I definitely like that option if I could stomach seeing Yu pitch for Toronto.



I'm future proofing. Beltre likely retires in a year or two, I'm not sure if anyone has simmed a season or two to see when exactly that will happen. Moving Profar concerns me as the game doesn't seem to favor moving people around too much. Had Profar still been listed an IF in this game I would be more open too it but given they have him listed as an OF now, I think he'd take a big production hit. With that said, if I could pull a top OF prospect, I would definitely be open to going that direction.

You absolutely cannot get Vlad Jr. For 3 months of Darvish. You need to go back and look at the Price to TOR deal to get an idea on what kind of value is realistic. Same with the Cueto deal. Or The Grienke deal where he was swapped for Jean Segues.

The Hamels deal isn't comparable because Hamels had tons of team control. The Chapman deal isn't comparable because the Cubs were literally one piece away from a championship and over paid for it.

And you just should target short stop prospects they can play anywhere.
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[MrSerendipity]

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You absolutely cannot get Vlad Jr. For 3 months of Darvish. You need to go back and look at the Price to TOR deal to get an idea on what kind of value is realistic. The Hamels deal isn't comparable because Hamels had tons of team control. The Chapman deal isn't comparable because the Cubs were literally one piece away from a championship and over paid for it.

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Sure! That's why I'm trying to figure out real worth. I know Darvish is worth a lot, even as a rental. To some he's Top 10, to most he's at least Top 12-15. But I'm not going to fleece a team so I'm asking for some help. I'm definitely most interested in seeing what kind of realistic deal I could get done with Pittsburgh for Bell.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Sure! That's why I'm trying to figure out real worth. I know Darvish is worth a lot, even as a rental. To some he's Top 10, to most he's at least Top 12-15. But I'm not going to fleece a team so I'm asking for some help. I'm definitely most interested in seeing what kind of realistic deal I could get done with Pittsburgh for Bell.

If Pitt is competing at the deadline then Bell for Yu straight up should work. That's most similar to the previous Greinke deal.

Half a season of Yu would be worth about $20 million in surplus maybe closer to $30 if you add a deadline tax
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[babybombers]

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If Pitt is competing at the deadline then Bell for Yu straight up should work. That's most similar to the previous Greinke deal.

Half a season of Yu would be worth about $20 million in surplus maybe closer to $30 if you add a deadline tax
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I agree. Id think if you threw in Guzman to the pirates it would work well

[kenp86]

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If AZ is out of it and greinke is pitching great, is there a deal to send if to Toronto and for what? Obviously id have to eat salary

[babybombers]

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If AZ is out of it and greinke is pitching great, is there a deal to send if to Toronto and for what? Obviously id have to eat salary

Unless your willing to eat most of the salary then maybe a low B propsect.
If your not willing to eat at least half then a bag of ball???? Last year really hurt his value. I have read that possibly my Yankees would possibly have interest in the middle of the season but D backs would have to eat 40-50% of salary and get a mid level prospect in return

[GamecocksLaw17]

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If AZ is out of it and greinke is pitching great, is there a deal to send if to Toronto and for what? Obviously id have to eat salary

Yeah the only real option is the Dodgers because they can afford him but it will come at a major discount. I don't think Toronto can handle such a big salary commitment

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[babybombers]

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Yeah the only real option is the Dodgers because they can afford him but it will come at a major discount. I don't think Toronto can handle such a big salary commitment

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I would be willing to bring him to new york as a Yankee but they would have to eat at least 40% of contract and then take a mid level prospect such as Clarkin and Chad Green. I think that is reasonable what about you?

[kenp86]

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Yeah the only real option is the Dodgers because they can afford him but it will come at a major discount. I don't think Toronto can handle such a big salary commitment

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I had heard last near that, that was a possibility and almost did happen. What would az get?

[MrSerendipity]

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If Pitt is competing at the deadline then Bell for Yu straight up should work. That's most similar to the previous Greinke deal.

Half a season of Yu would be worth about $20 million in surplus maybe closer to $30 if you add a deadline tax
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Great, I can work with that. I'll just have to see if they're actually competing then. Thanks for the info!

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I had heard last near that, that was a possibility and almost did happen. What would az get?

Apparently LAD offered to pay $25 of the seal yearly and a marginal prospect. The ownership in ARZ said the Dodgers had plenty of money and they wouldn't pay down a dime. So if that's the case now you can't move him

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[babybombers]

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Apparently LAD offered to pay $25 of the seal yearly and a marginal prospect. The ownership in ARZ said the Dodgers had plenty of money and they wouldn't pay down a dime. So if that's the case now you can't move him

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But like you have said to me the D backs and Dodgers are in the same division which makes them overpay if there was a deal to be made so that could change the asking price if he were traded out of the division

[kenp86]

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Im fairly certain ill be building this oakland squad with gray, but what would a deal with the jays or yanks look like if hes pitching well