MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[redsoxfan31]

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What kind of package do you think Bogaerts could get from the Braves? Could it include Swanson? I wouldn't mind something like Swanson and Luiz Gohara if thats not too much.

What about the Rockies for Story. Maybe Story, Matt Carasiti, and Scott Oberg.

I'd say if you want Swanson and Gohara you'd have to include Bogaerts and a prospect like a Josh Ockimey or Tanner Houck. Don't get me wrong Bogaerts is a great SS but he's only got two years left of control if you're dealing him in the 2017-2018 offseason so that will hinder his value

[FLHIII]

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Need a little help on franchise trading.

I do not use 30 team control. Have always "cheated" to make trades that happen in real life through my franchise (for example I could max out a lower player and trade for a better guy, then move him to new team, lower the original guy and act as a broker almost)

Currently in June month on franchise with Cubs. Want to move some guys to get Quintana from white sox. Offer three players, which puts the meter far into sox favor where they would accept- and the response is "interesting but not what they are looking for"

I've noticed this occurs now with almost every teams mid to upper tier players.

Not budget constraints.

Is it possibly a bug? Or does the problem go away aroubd July /deadline possibly?

Thanks in advance.

[kenp86]

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Going to restart my 32 team career. So Jeter comes in and says they do habe to rebuild and unpopular decisions will have to be made(actual words). That being said, i think the big 4 of this team (Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna and Gordon) will be traded.

Would a Stanton to LAA for Heaney, Jordan Adell and Grayson Long be enough if Angels take all money?

[kinsmen7]

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Going to restart my 32 team career. So Jeter comes in and says they do habe to rebuild and unpopular decisions will have to be made(actual words). That being said, i think the big 4 of this team (Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna and Gordon) will be traded.

Would a Stanton to LAA for Heaney, Jordan Adell and Grayson Long be enough if Angels take all money?

Going to be a bit weird to do a 32 team franchise in a 30 team league, but you be you I guess...

As for the trade, Stanton trades have been discussed on here a number of times, and while there's been no clear answer as to what gets you Stanton (7.6 WAR this year), I think this might help a bit:

If you're going off of this years numbers, injury prone Heaney and his 1 career WAR (-.4 this season)/29 games started over the past 4 seasons, with Adell (Angels #1 prospect, but hasn't played above rookie ball), and Long (Angels #8 prospect, projects to be mid-bottom of the rotation pitcher) doesn't come close to getting this done. Heaney is the only one of these guys who's every even made a top 100 prospect list, and the Angels farm system sucks. Looking at recent trades for superstar caliber players, Miami is going to want prospects that are close or already at the major league level.

Stanton's deal really isn't that bad. He's a superstar, he's in his prime, would immediately step in and become the face of any franchise, plays above average defense in right, and mashes offensively. With Harper and Machado likely to get 35-40 mil/year, I'd take a slugger with a yearly salary that bounces between $28/$32 mil per season through his prime years in a heartbeat, especially since he's only locked up until he's 38, as opposed to the Pujols's and Cabrera's of the world that are locked up into their 40's. If he were a FA right now, he'd get the same money or more, so I don't really think that Miami is going to have any trouble getting someone to take the whole contract.

[whbaseball51121]

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Going to be a bit weird to do a 32 team franchise in a 30 team league, but you be you I guess...

As for the trade, Stanton trades have been discussed on here a number of times, and while there's been no clear answer as to what gets you Stanton (7.6 WAR this year), I think this might help a bit:

If you're going off of this years numbers, injury prone Heaney and his 1 career WAR (-.4 this season)/29 games started over the past 4 seasons, with Adell (Angels #1 prospect, but hasn't played above rookie ball), and Long (Angels #8 prospect, projects to be mid-bottom of the rotation pitcher) doesn't come close to getting this done. Heaney is the only one of these guys who's every even made a top 100 prospect list, and the Angels farm system sucks. Looking at recent trades for superstar caliber players, Miami is going to want prospects that are close or already at the major league level.

Stanton's deal really isn't that bad. He's a superstar, he's in his prime, would immediately step in and become the face of any franchise, plays above average defense in right, and mashes offensively. With Harper and Machado likely to get 35-40 mil/year, I'd take a slugger with a yearly salary that bounces between $28/$32 mil per season through his prime years in a heartbeat, especially since he's only locked up until he's 38, as opposed to the Pujols's and Cabrera's of the world that are locked up into their 40's. If he were a FA right now, he'd get the same money or more, so I don't really think that Miami is going to have any trouble getting someone to take the whole contract.

I agree with a lot of this. In order to entice them into moving Stanton you’d probably have to give up more. Gonna disagree that he’d become the face of the Angels though

[jfen31]

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30-team control franchise. June 18th, 2017.

Dodgers, of course, have the best record in the NL. Bellinger came up two weeks ago and is off to a great start, splitting time at 1B and RF. Toles, Joc, Puig, Franklin Gutierrez, and Ethier are all having excellent years as well. LAD is only carrying 11 pitchers right now in order to accommodate all of the bats.

Seemingly, Ethier is the odd man out here. In a part-time role, he's hitting .337/.388/.497. Of course, he has a massive contract that appears, on its face, to be impossible to move.

One team that could take on such a contract is the Phillies, who are 22 games under .500 and have dealt with a brutal rash of injuries in the outfield. Herrera and Altherr are done for the season, Nick Williams has struggled mightily, and the Cam Perkins/Roman Quinn platoon has done absolutely nothing.

If the Dodgers ship Ethier to Philly, is it just a straight salary dump? From the Phillies' perspective, Ethier has some trade value a month from now at the Deadline if he continues to rake. They also simply need bodies in the outfield, even if only for a short period of time.

What's the most equitable way to execute this idea?

Many thanks.

[kenp86]

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Going to be a bit weird to do a 32 team franchise in a 30 team league, but you be you I guess...

As for the trade, Stanton trades have been discussed on here a number of times, and while there's been no clear answer as to what gets you Stanton (7.6 WAR this year), I think this might help a bit:

If you're going off of this years numbers, injury prone Heaney and his 1 career WAR (-.4 this season)/29 games started over the past 4 seasons, with Adell (Angels #1 prospect, but hasn't played above rookie ball), and Long (Angels #8 prospect, projects to be mid-bottom of the rotation pitcher) doesn't come close to getting this done. Heaney is the only one of these guys who's every even made a top 100 prospect list, and the Angels farm system sucks. Looking at recent trades for superstar caliber players, Miami is going to want prospects that are close or already at the major league level.

Stanton's deal really isn't that bad. He's a superstar, he's in his prime, would immediately step in and become the face of any franchise, plays above average defense in right, and mashes offensively. With Harper and Machado likely to get 35-40 mil/year, I'd take a slugger with a yearly salary that bounces between $28/$32 mil per season through his prime years in a heartbeat, especially since he's only locked up until he's 38, as opposed to the Pujols's and Cabrera's of the world that are locked up into their 40's. If he were a FA right now, he'd get the same money or more, so I don't really think that Miami is going to have any trouble getting someone to take the whole contract.

My mistake on the 32/30 thing lol been playing madden a lot

Only reason i ask about the Angels is because i read something that the front runners for Stanton would be a contending Cali team since hes from there and Philadelphia. That takes out Oakland, SD, Giants leaving both LA teams. Dodgers would be interesting. Think they have the pitching prospects needes to start discussion. Philly could be the dark horse i think. They have a lot of prospects to entice Miami to trade in division

[redsoxfan31]

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My mistake on the 32/30 thing lol been playing madden a lot

Only reason i ask about the Angels is because i read something that the front runners for Stanton would be a contending Cali team since hes from there and Philadelphia. That takes out Oakland, SD, Giants leaving both LA teams. Dodgers would be interesting. Think they have the pitching prospects needes to start discussion. Philly could be the dark horse i think. They have a lot of prospects to entice Miami to trade in division

I think given the right team setup, Stanton would okay a trade to any team. He wants to win now because like he pointed out, he's been losing for his entire career. I'm not sure he would okay a trade to LAA because Stanton and Trout alone wouldn't necessarily make LAA a playoff team if their pitchers arms can't stay attached to their bodies. LAD he would probably agree to a trade for because they have the ability to win right now without him but you add him to that team and they're perennial favorites. A team like NYY (with the prospect chips they have and ability to compete) BOS (same thing as NYY minus a little less great prospects) or what about a dark horse team like MIL? They have decent prospects and a 3-4-5 of Stanton, Shaw, and Thames could be pretty good or even a team like HOU. Granted MIL and HOU have less salary taking on ability than a BOS, or LAD, or NYY but those two teams could possibly make up for not taking all the remaining salary by including some more prospects.

[kinsmen7]

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I agree with a lot of this. In order to entice them into moving Stanton you’d probably have to give up more. Gonna disagree that he’d become the face of the Angels though

100%. I meant it more as "He's a guy that's going to sell a lot of tickets", and that he'd add a buttload more value off the field to a team like Anaheim than a player like Justin Upton, who's an excellent player, but who is likely going to make somewhere $22-$25 this offseason (over the next 4-5 seasons). Mike Trout is obviously god-like, and is the best player in the world. Should have phrased that differently.

My mistake on the 32/30 thing lol been playing madden a lot

Only reason i ask about the Angels is because i read something that the front runners for Stanton would be a contending Cali team since hes from there and Philadelphia. That takes out Oakland, SD, Giants leaving both LA teams. Dodgers would be interesting. Think they have the pitching prospects needes to start discussion. Philly could be the dark horse i think. They have a lot of prospects to entice Miami to trade in division

Philly makes sense, but unless they were willing to give up a ton for him, the whole inter-divisional trade won't likely happen. Imagine being one of the 15 fans of the crappy Marlins and having to watch him come in and mash 18 times a year. Yuck. I think they'll spend a bit this summer, but can't imagine them moving some of their top young guys yet, at this stage of the rebuild.

SD is probably a bit early in their rebuild too, but I always thought of them as a logical spot for him to land. Again-Face of the franchise immediately. Gives fans something to cheer for for the next year or two until the team becomes relevant. They could be scary good very quickly with some of those young guys coming up soon.

I don't know much about the Giants farm, but I don't think they have the pieces to get him.

If someone makes a move for him this winter though, I think it's going to be a team that doesn't think that they can win the Harper/Machado/(Hopefully not) Donaldson sweepstakes next winter (C'monnnnn Blue Jays!!!). To me, I'd think that NYY, LAA and LAD will be all in on at least one of those guys, so I'd be kind of surprised to see any of them make a move before that (Though, imagine a Trout, Harper and Giancarlo outfield...yeehaw).

I know it's probably a ridiculous guess, and doesn't really add much to assessing the value of Stanton, but I'd say that he ends up not moving until 2019, after Harper and Machado sign. To me, that's when the Padres and Philly's of the world push their chips in with the Yankees and Dodgers.

[kenp86]

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100%. I meant it more as "He's a guy that's going to sell a lot of tickets", and that he'd add a buttload more value off the field to a team like Anaheim than a player like Justin Upton, who's an excellent player, but who is likely going to make somewhere $22-$25 this offseason (over the next 4-5 seasons). Mike Trout is obviously god-like, and is the best player in the world. Should have phrased that differently.



Philly makes sense, but unless they were willing to give up a ton for him, the whole inter-divisional trade won't likely happen. Imagine being one of the 15 fans of the crappy Marlins and having to watch him come in and mash 18 times a year. Yuck. I think they'll spend a bit this summer, but can't imagine them moving some of their top young guys yet, at this stage of the rebuild.

SD is probably a bit early in their rebuild too, but I always thought of them as a logical spot for him to land. Again-Face of the franchise immediately. Gives fans something to cheer for for the next year or two until the team becomes relevant. They could be scary good very quickly with some of those young guys coming up soon.

I don't know much about the Giants farm, but I don't think they have the pieces to get him.

If someone makes a move for him this winter though, I think it's going to be a team that doesn't think that they can win the Harper/Machado/(Hopefully not) Donaldson sweepstakes next winter (C'monnnnn Blue Jays!!!). To me, I'd think that NYY, LAA and LAD will be all in on at least one of those guys, so I'd be kind of surprised to see any of them make a move before that (Though, imagine a Trout, Harper and Giancarlo outfield...yeehaw).

I know it's probably a ridiculous guess, and doesn't really add much to assessing the value of Stanton, but I'd say that he ends up not moving until 2019, after Harper and Machado sign. To me, that's when the Padres and Philly's of the world push their chips in with the Yankees and Dodgers.

Say hes moved this offseason. Would a Stanton to the Dodgers for a package around Urias, Alvarez, Verdugo and Ethier (salary) work?

And would a Yelich to the Cardinals for Carson Kelly, Dalvin Perez and Harrison Bader work?

[kinsmen7]

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Say hes moved this offseason. Would a Stanton to the Dodgers for a package around Urias, Alvarez, Verdugo and Ethier (salary) work?

And would a Yelich to the Cardinals for Carson Kelly, Dalvin Perez and Harrison Bader work?

I don't think any of the adults are posting anymore, but I'd say that if the Dodgers were offering that package up, Miami would take it and run! Again, none of the guys on here have come up with an actual value for Stanton, but I'd say 3 top 50 guys (still considering Urias as a prospect, despite his service time), one of whom would be there to entice Miami to take a year of Ethier, would probably be a reasonable package for both clubs. Don't see LAD being fired up to move Urias, but not a bad deal.

As for Yelich...if you search back through the thread, Hampshiretags says that "an elite arm and 2 legit prospects (a high bonus international player) would open the bidding".

[kenp86]

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Thoughts on these trade ideas?

1) Michael Fulmer to Cubs for Russell
2) Fulmer to Atlanta for Maitan and Acuna
3) Stanton to LaD for Urias, Y.Alvarez, Ethier
4) Stanton to Boston for Benintendi, ERod, Groome
5) Miggy to NYY for Ellsbury, Sheffield
6) G.Cole to Toronto for Alford, SRF, Warmoth
7) Cole to Atlanta for Maitan, Ian Anderson
8) Cole to Twins for Gordon and S.Gonsalvez
9) Yelich to LaD for Buehler and Y.Alvarez
10) Donaldson to STL for Bader, Weaver

[Hardworker33]

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4th season (2020) with my Braves, currently second in the division behind the Phillies. My record is 18-13.


I'm somewhere in the top 10 on the pitching side, mid pack as far as HR & RBI goes but also dead last in AVG.


Dansby Swanson, as great as he is defensively, has struggle with a .193 AVG this year. I never had much success at the plate with him but he's somewhat a key player. I've finished last year (his best so far) with a line of .274, 17HR 72 RBI (I play 150 games/season with quick count)


He has 1 year remaining on his contract but it will end right where I do have several key players to resign.


Surprisingly, Dodgers are struggling in this new season with a 8-17 record.


I thought a blockbuster could help LA to get back on track since the season is young and help myself with my batting average. I added a 2B prospect since their depth chart was very thin at 2B (only 3 players with mediocre ratings)


I traded :


Dansby Swanson 26YO-A POT-87 OVR (.193-1HR-8RBI)
2B PROSPECT 20YO - C POT- 65 OVR


FOR


Corey Seager 25 YO-A POT-89 OVR (.261-3 HR-14 RBI)


Swanson is better defensively (could be very good on a offense focus LA Dodgers) and Seager will Braves on offense.


After seeing the situation, did I make a fair trade?


Thanks!

[Bard]

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Gearing up for next year.

How does this sound on paper?

Red Sox Receive:
Gincarlo Stanton
Justin Bour
Ian Happ

Chicago Receives:
Andrew Benintendi
Kyle Barraclough

Marlins Receive:
Kyle Schwarber
Jason Groome
Michael Chavis
Adbert Alzoway



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[UNDERTAKER1215]

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So I'm looking to open some spots for other players on next years Red Sox team. I have players like Michael Taylor (Pomeranz trade), Bryce Brentz, and Sam Travis vying for starting jobs so trades are very likely come this offseason.

I'd going to attempt to resign Mitch Moreland as he is having a career, if not MVP season (.307, 42 HR, 90 RBI), so he'll take up either the 1B or DH spot, so that leaves the other for Brentz, Travis, and Ramirez.

I'd like to move out from under Hanley's salary, and the only realistic destination I could see is Texas. I don't need anything in return, just to shed his salary. With Napoli being a pending free agent, Hanley could take over their DH role.

The next move would be JBJ and the team that comes to mind first are the Giants. They have a clear outfield need, mostly due to under performance at the plate, but the defense could also use an upgrade. They could move Span over to left where is arm is nothing compared to JBJ. Some players I like from San Fran are...

Kyle Crick
Hunter Strickland
Ryder Jones
Miguel Gomez
Christian Arroyo

If I do go to this extent to open up roster spots, I figured, why not move Bogaerts, considering the only thing he's done for me on offense is hit singles and maintain a high average. His power has taken a step back as he as just two homers mid-way through September. The Pirates look like the favorites as Mercer and Kang aren't exactly lighting things up at short. Someone on here had previously suggested a trade of Bogaerts for Nick Kingham, Cole Tucker, Jordan Luplow which I actually like.

Thoughts?