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  • bcruise
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2004
    • 23274

    #406
    Re: Too many HR's?

    Originally posted by Blzer
    I didn't even know they had descriptions.
    Yeah - right above the slider list.

    The description reads:

    "Adjusts the percent of a CPU's pitches that land for strikes on early counts. Shifting this to the right increases strikes. This impacts the CPU's strategy, and could potentially make the CPU pitch poorly."

    Further, the game defines "Early counts" as 0-0, 0-1, 1-0, 1-1 in the in-game strategy guide.

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    • ParisB
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 1699

      #407
      Re: Too many HR's?

      Originally posted by Blzer
      I can't confirm from my small sample size from way back in MLB '09: The Show, but I believe that Pitcher Control affects a pitcher's ability to paint strikes on the black, and Pitcher Consistency affects a pitcher's ability to paint strikes off the black.

      So if you bump up Pitcher Control to 10 and lower Pitcher Consistency to 0, your strikes will be borderline and the balls will be way off. In a way, no meatballs.

      Strike Frequency affects exactly that... the frequency at which the pitcher will throw strikes. That being said, I already have that at 1. 1 or 2 is the right number for this game, IMO. Always has been.
      Sort of yes. The pitching calcs dice rolls have a near miss and far miss aspect to them. Control affects the near misses, while Consistency affects the far misses. I guess you can view it as precision vs accuracy


      Control also has a relationship with Contact. For example, Contact at 0 and Control at 10 will allow the pitcher to have more blow bys swing and misses, and vice versa.

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      • Gagnon39
        Windy City Sports Fan
        • Mar 2003
        • 8544

        #408
        Re: Too many HR's?

        Finally dove into my franchise tonight. And while it's a small sample size obviously, I'm hoping that I'm just off to a ridiculously hot start.

        In three games against the Cardinals I hit 10 home runs.

        Schwarber had 5 of them. Given, I'm the Cubs and that's not entirely out of the realm of believeabily, however in the last game Miguel Montero hit a pair of bombs of his own.

        I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly concerned that the game's a little home run happy this year.
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        • RLB
          Rookie
          • Feb 2016
          • 147

          #409
          Re: Too many HR's?

          Originally posted by bcruise
          I think I just ended the "what causes long HR's" argument, and I thought you guys might be interested as well since it does have an impact on the frequency too:

          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5e7NWyjfkqA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          Wind is 22 MPH to dead center, boosted from 11 thanks to maxing the slider. And it sent normally long HR's into a low orbit. I did this for pretty much 15 minutes and it was just moonshot after moonshot if I got any height at all. I did record all that if anyone's really curious, but on my internet it would probably take hours to upload.

          Before this it did seem like zeroing the slider had a big impact on the distance of HR's I was hitting, and now I've seen what happens when you max it.
          Well, after 20 or so games in spring training with my Cardinals I went ahead and started my AL franchise and decided to take the Royals this year. Every game this year I have usually had the wind blowing in and the very few times it has blown out has been very light.

          Game #10 in spring training with the Royals @ Cincinnati I had the wind blowing out toward left-center at 12 mph. A little history, 9 games with the Royals.....10 team homers, the Cardinals I am averaging under 1 homer per game.

          Back to game 10......I'm buying in to the wind theory.
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          • Bobhead
            Pro
            • Mar 2011
            • 4926

            #410
            Re: Too many HR's?

            So is wind the prevailing theory on this? I'm hitting like 4-7 HRs a game. I'd probably hit more if I wanted to but I tend to lay off the power button given how easy it is.

            And now that I think about it, the wind has been blowing out in literally all my games thus far.

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            • Stolm
              Pro
              • May 2012
              • 649

              #411
              Re: Too many HR's?

              Hit Back to Back to Back Home Runs in back to back innings in an online game earlier today with Rice, Rizzo, and Daniel Murphy.

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              • CaseIH
                MVP
                • Sep 2013
                • 3945

                #412
                Re: Too many HR's?

                I do think the wind is playing a factor in HRs, but it does IRL as well. I personally havent had any game, where I thought there was a ridiculous amount of HRs being hit by me or the CPU.

                Im also using dynamic difficutly, so Im not nearly as good at hitting as most of you guys are, so maybe thats why, I dont have a issue.

                I have had games where wind is blowing in, and a good hit ball ends up dying out, as it does IRL,

                Personally I think the wind is acting like it should for the most part. It may be having a slight more impact than it would IRL at times with Hr's, but again not nothing ridiculous.

                Personally I thought it was pretty neat when I 1st got the game, and thought for sure I got the batter to fly out, and the ball just kept going for a Hr.

                Id hate to see them fix this, and then the wind dont have any effect, I remember early on with this franchise, I think it may have been 09, the wind played a huge role and people complained about it, then I foget when it was they toned it down, and the wind had practically no impact what soever, I dont want that too happen.

                1 thing I did notice, and I did it because I felt I was seeing to much solid contact, was that I turned down solid hits slider, to get more weak contact, as it seemed there was to many hard hit balls, whether it be grounders, or line drives. I think I have it at 1 or 2 for both me and the CPU right not, and Im seeing less hard contact, and I know it seem to impact the amount of HRs too, as I have hardly seen any since I made that change, so thinking I might need to bump it up. Could also be a placebo effect too, I suppose.
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                • Bullit
                  Bacon is Better
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5004

                  #413
                  Re: Too many HR's?

                  Ok.. I have started a franchise just to test the SP and HR issues and I am sorry guys I am just not seeing it. I know this is a small sample and I will keep playing just to see if anything changes but here is what has happend so far. I am really not trying to Troll, yes I posted the same thing in the other thread but I am really trying to test both things.

                  I am playing on All Star Defualt sliders and I am playing as the Padres.

                  Game 1 Kershaw pulled in the Top of the 8th after 103 Pitches with a 2-1 lead. 1 Home run a piece neither over 420.

                  Game 2 Hill pulled in the 7th after 85 pitches in a 2-1 game after giving up a walk and a double. 2 home runs both by Gutiérrez @ 442' and 425'

                  Game 3 Maeda pulled in the 8th after 92 pitches leading 5-1. 2 Home runs Schimpf 442' and Puig 421'

                  Game 4 Ryu pulled in the 7th with one out in a 2-1 ball game after 93 pitches after giving up a single with one out. 2 Home runs Turner for both at 392' and 409'

                  Just an observation. I think that some of the distances are not accurate either. From the posted dimensions and where the balls landed I would say most of those distances should be lower by 10' to 20' or so.
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                  • Gagnon39
                    Windy City Sports Fan
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 8544

                    #414
                    Re: Too many HR's?

                    So is the overall consensus that the wind plays the major role in there being too many home runs? If that's the case what are you guys doing with the wind slider? I think I have mine set at 2 but I wonder if it would be best to just turn it all the way down to 0.


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                    • JayD
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 5457

                      #415
                      Re: Too many HR's?

                      I just hit 2 homers and had 8 RBI's with Freddie Freeman last night. Locked in I guess.

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                      • WhiteBunny
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 332

                        #416
                        Re: Too many HR's?

                        My last two online games on HOF. On the first pitcher analisys the HR low in the strikezone was by Escobar. On the second one, it's the pitch location on the HR of Dyson. The second game was played without wind ( close rooftop ).

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                        • jpup
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 4571

                          #417
                          Re: Too many HR's?

                          Originally posted by Gagnon39
                          So is the overall consensus that the wind plays the major role in there being too many home runs? If that's the case what are you guys doing with the wind slider? I think I have mine set at 2 but I wonder if it would be best to just turn it all the way down to 0.


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                          I put mine on 1 so far. Seems ok.


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                          • rh123
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 184

                            #418
                            Re: Too many HR's?

                            Originally posted by jpup
                            I put mine on 1 so far. Seems ok.


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                            Does wind have any effect on the slicing of the ball that you have seen?

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                            • Aensland
                              Rookie
                              • May 2014
                              • 246

                              #419
                              Re: Too many HR's?

                              Originally posted by rh123
                              Does wind have any effect on the slicing of the ball that you have seen?
                              After CPU vs CPU testing a good number of games without wind, I really think it does. My early impressions were the ball was slicing way too much. There were balls I thought may have a chance of dropping, end up being nearly 40ft foul. I've seen a lot of would-be base hits in previous MLB games lost because the new physics, which also resulted in low CPU offense. Since turning the wind completely off, it doesn't seem to be as extreme. Of course, some of this could be in my head, but I'm simply going by eye testing.

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                              • RLB
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 147

                                #420
                                Re: Too many HR's?

                                Originally posted by Bullit
                                Ok.. I have started a franchise just to test the SP and HR issues and I am sorry guys I am just not seeing it. I know this is a small sample and I will keep playing just to see if anything changes but here is what has happend so far. I am really not trying to Troll, yes I posted the same thing in the other thread but I am really trying to test both things.

                                I am playing on All Star Defualt sliders and I am playing as the Padres.

                                Game 1 Kershaw pulled in the Top of the 8th after 103 Pitches with a 2-1 lead. 1 Home run a piece neither over 420.

                                Game 2 Hill pulled in the 7th after 85 pitches in a 2-1 game after giving up a walk and a double. 2 home runs both by Gutiérrez @ 442' and 425'

                                Game 3 Maeda pulled in the 8th after 92 pitches leading 5-1. 2 Home runs Schimpf 442' and Puig 421'

                                Game 4 Ryu pulled in the 7th with one out in a 2-1 ball game after 93 pitches after giving up a single with one out. 2 Home runs Turner for both at 392' and 409'

                                Just an observation. I think that some of the distances are not accurate either. From the posted dimensions and where the balls landed I would say most of those distances should be lower by 10' to 20' or so.
                                I'm still in spring training with both teams so the starting pitcher issue I haven't had any opportunity to see that yet. As far as the homerun issues I hadn't seen it until last night with the 12 mph wind blowing out. Maybe it was just a slugfest and they happen occasionally but that was the first time I ever hit 7 homers in a game and I gave up 5 during that game. Keep an eye on your wind, I would be curious to see what you come up with.

                                On a side note, my next game with the Royals was against the A's. I won 8 to 4 and with no wind, the only homer hit was from the A's on a pitch I left in the middle. I'm not 100% convinced it was the wind, but I can't rule it out yet. I was actually starting to wonder if my hitting skills had declined after reading everyone else killing the ball. I was glad when CB said he was having the same results as me.......your results are making me feel better too.

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