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  • fanofbaseball
    Rookie
    • Apr 2017
    • 65

    #481
    Re: Too many HR's?

    Originally posted by Braga
    This is straight from the horse's mouth but, unless we crunch more numbers, it's just and educated guess. Anyway, and correct me if I'm wrong, at least 1 hit out of 5 is an HR (600k home runs, 3m total hits). Well, Obviously it's just my reading, so take it with a grain of salt.


    Is the specific number of home runs available somewhere? What game modes are including in these stats?

    Eyeballing the chart I'm guessing the HR total to be about 18%, which is only a couple points above the percentage for league leading teams in this statistic.

    While the totals are slightly above actual MLB stats, given the number of people that play this game, the variance in skill levels, and my personal experience, I'm shocked that the stats are that close to reality!

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42520

      #482
      Re: Too many HR's?

      Originally posted by fanofbaseball
      While the totals are slightly above actual MLB stats, given the number of people that play this game, the variance in skill levels, and my personal experience, I'm shocked that the stats are that close to reality!
      I wonder if there are still many bunt singles.
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      • fanofbaseball
        Rookie
        • Apr 2017
        • 65

        #483
        Re: Too many HR's?

        Originally posted by Blzer
        I wonder if there are still many bunt singles.
        I fail to understand your response in relation to my post. Could you please clarify?

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        • Greencollarbaseball
          Pro
          • Jun 2012
          • 926

          #484
          Re: Too many HR's?

          Originally posted by countryboy
          That's right you did.

          Yeah I was at the point of advancing to next season when I stopped '16 and bought '17. I then started Spring Training.

          Good question as to whether that has prevented me from seeing the issue or if it's something else.


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          It could be, I was in the same spot when I moved over to 17 and I'm not having a HR issue either. I have a pretty powerful lineup, 5 guys over 70pwr. I'm averaging 1.50 hr a game through 35 games, with only 1 hr over 450ft. Most in the 390-410 range.


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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42520

            #485
            Re: Too many HR's?

            Originally posted by fanofbaseball
            I fail to understand your response in relation to my post. Could you please clarify?
            Yeah probably not the best selection, but I meant to say the amount of bunt singles could take away from the HR/H percentage.
            Last edited by Blzer; 04-15-2017, 11:39 PM.
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            • Jr.
              Playgirl Coverboy
              • Feb 2003
              • 19171

              #486
              Re: Too many HR's?

              Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
              It could be, I was in the same spot when I moved over to 17 and I'm not having a HR issue either. I have a pretty powerful lineup, 5 guys over 70pwr. I'm averaging 1.50 hr a game through 35 games, with only 1 hr over 450ft. Most in the 390-410 range.


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              Try simming to the next season and play a couple of games. You should notice the issue almost immediately. That was my experience
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              • fanofbaseball
                Rookie
                • Apr 2017
                • 65

                #487
                Re: Too many HR's?

                Originally posted by Blzer
                Yeah probably not the best selection, but I meant to say the amount of bunt singles could take away from the home HR/H percentage.
                Got it. And agree, bunt singles numbers would be interesting to know as well.

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                • Greencollarbaseball
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 926

                  #488
                  Re: Too many HR's?

                  Originally posted by Jr.
                  Try simming to the next season and play a couple of games. You should notice the issue almost immediately. That was my experience


                  No thanks. Lol. I'll play this season for the next couple months and hopefully they'll have a fix by then.


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                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #489
                    Re: Too many HR's?

                    Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
                    No thanks. Lol. I'll play this season for the next couple months and hopefully they'll have a fix by then.


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                    You don't have to keep it that way. Just don't save. It might be helpful to creating a fix if the issue isn't present in carryovers until an advance to the offseason.
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                    • Braga
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 11

                      #490
                      Re: Too many HR's?

                      Originally posted by fanofbaseball
                      Is the specific number of home runs available somewhere? What game modes are including in these stats?

                      Eyeballing the chart I'm guessing the HR total to be about 18%, which is only a couple points above the percentage for league leading teams in this statistic.

                      While the totals are slightly above actual MLB stats, given the number of people that play this game, the variance in skill levels, and my personal experience, I'm shocked that the stats are that close to reality!

                      18% of 3m is 540.000 and it still seems a bit too high for me (1 hit out of 5-6 is HR) but I'm not really into pie-charts and unless we got more data your guess is good as mine. However, anecdotal evidences aside, hopefully devs will investigate this (alleged) issue further.

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                      • wellred
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 233

                        #491
                        Re: Too many HR's?

                        Originally posted by Braga
                        18% of 3m is 540.000 and it still seems a bit too high for me (1 hit out of 5-6 is HR) but I'm not really into pie-charts and unless we got more data your guess is good as mine. However, anecdotal evidences aside, hopefully devs will investigate this (alleged) issue further.
                        It's a bit high but you're still going to average less than 2 homeruns per game. Average homeruns per game in real life is about 1.2 per game, average hits per game is about 8.7 or so. 1 homerun every 6 hits (rough guesstimate) really isn't that far off.

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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42520

                          #492
                          Re: Too many HR's?

                          Originally posted by wellred
                          It's a bit high but you're still going to average less than 2 homeruns per game. Average homeruns per game in real life is about 1.2 per game, average hits per game is about 8.7 or so. 1 homerun every 6 hits (rough guesstimate) really isn't that far off.
                          That's not even close.

                          If you compare 1.2 HR to 8.7 hits, that's even less than 1 home run per 7 hits.

                          Does that make a difference? Only if you feel that a career .300 hitter versus a career .270 hitter is a big difference... which everybody does.

                          And is 8.7 hits per game accurate? I'm not saying it is or isn't, that just sounds low is all. Or is that per team, per game? If so, that makes much more sense.
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                          • wellred
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 233

                            #493
                            Re: Too many HR's?

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            That's not even close.

                            If you compare 1.2 HR to 8.7 hits, that's even less than 1 home run per 7 hits.

                            Does that make a difference? Only if you feel that a career .300 hitter versus a career .270 hitter is a big difference... which everybody does.

                            And is 8.7 hits per game accurate? I'm not saying it is or isn't, that just sounds low is all. Or is that per team, per game? If so, that makes much more sense.
                            lol wut? It's per team obviously. 8.7 hits per game and 1.16 homeruns per game were the pretty exact averages for an MLB team per game last season, not only is this information pretty easily accessed with a simple google search, it's pretty obvious what averages I was talking about to anyone who has ever watched and gathered some understanding of a major league baseball game. So if you wanna be condescending, try not to sound like an idiot in the process bro.

                            Also as another poster pointed out, the fact that the averages are as close as they are is pretty amazing. I said in my post that it was high but still less than 2 homeruns a game per team. When you consider the amount of people who play this game on rookie mode just to bash 12 homeruns a game likely far outnumbers the posters who give a **** about this game on this forum and try to play legit baseball, those averages look pretty good. If their goal was to make a baseball game with all these difficulty levels that will still manage to replicate exact MLB averages across the board with millions of different users, they're I guess, kind of a failure, they're a .270 hitter instead of a .300 hitter. Better luck next year. Now back to your normally scheduled bitching.
                            Last edited by wellred; 04-16-2017, 02:00 AM.

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                            • GoDucks1224
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 2623

                              #494
                              Re: Too many HR's?

                              Originally posted by wellred
                              lol wut? It's per team obviously. 8.7 hits per game and 1.16 homeruns per game were the pretty exact averages for an MLB team per game last season, not only is this information pretty easily accessed with a simple google search, it's pretty obvious what averages I was talking about to anyone who has ever watched and gathered some understanding of a major league baseball game. So if you wanna be condescending, try not to sound like an idiot in the process bro.

                              Also as another poster pointed out, the fact that the averages are as close as they are is pretty amazing. I said in my post that it was high but still less than 2 homeruns a game per team. When you consider the amount of people who play this game on rookie mode just to bash 12 homeruns a game likely far outnumbers the posters who give a **** about this game on this forum and try to play legit baseball, those averages look pretty good. If their goal was to make a baseball game with all these difficulty levels that will still manage to replicate exact MLB averages across the board with millions of different users, they're I guess, kind of a failure, they're a .270 hitter instead of a .300 hitter. Better luck next year. Now back to your normally scheduled bitching.


                              This kind of vitriolic post should get you banned. It's insulting, and unnecessary. You're patronizing someone for not assuming something and trying to get you to confirm your information. You're also making grandiose assumptions about the playerbase and the developers as a whole. Why? Do you have inside information the rest of us don't have access to? I'm critical of this game in a lot of ways on this site, and am in no way an apologist for its failures, but the way you're going about this is completely wrong. You don't need to attack people to get your point across. Since your last sentence basically described this entire forum as whiney, why are you even here?


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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42520

                                #495
                                Re: Too many HR's?

                                I read the rest of your post, no worries. I only wanted to comment on one part.

                                Originally posted by wellred
                                8.7 hits per game and 1.16 homeruns per game
                                So it's 1.16 instead of 1.2? That is 13.3%. Compared to 16.7% those are still starkly different numbers.

                                By the way, I also thought those numbers were for online play only. That's why I mentioned bunting for singles.

                                And please don't bring up Google searching in here. There is no more condescension than bringing up something like that.
                                Last edited by Blzer; 04-16-2017, 03:03 AM.
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